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The FBI has found that a business associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, including during the 2016 campaign when Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were in touch with the associate, according to new court filings.

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I think this is what will play out in the end: Mueller finds the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to gain an advantage in the 2016 campaign, but Mueller will be unable to pin anything specific to Trump. He's been around too long to not know that when there are dirty deeds to do, you have your people do them for you and you stand clear while they take any heat. And when they do take the fall you say the nicest things about them as they are dragged off. "Flynn, he was a great guy, treated poorly."

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Remember, it's a conspiracy between both parties that is the chargeable offense. Mueller may have that when it comes to the campaign itself. Then there is the possibility they have evidence of a coverup by the president and others associated with the campaign. Or finally, obstruction of justice.

These only concern the election and I'm sure I've missed a few. Then there is the rest like money laundering. Has Trump been compromised by a foreign country? What if anything will his family be charged with? Will his wife leave him and what if anything will Mueller do with the Stormy Daniels case. She says she was threatened and the money used to pay her off may have violated campaign finance laws. She was paid off so she could not influence the election. That too may have ramifications.

Perhaps best of all is that Trump has shit lawyers. All the really good ones don't want any part of this, or him.

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I think this is what will play out in the end: Mueller finds the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to gain an advantage in the 2016 campaign, but Mueller will be unable to pin anything specific to Trump. He's been around too long to not know that when there are dirty deeds to do, you have your people do them for you and you stand clear while they take any heat. And when they do take the fall you say the nicest things about them as they are dragged off. "Flynn, he was a great guy, treated poorly."

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Remember, it's a conspiracy between both parties that is the chargeable offense. Mueller may have that when it comes to the campaign itself. Then there is the possibility they have evidence of a coverup by the president and others associated with the campaign. Or finally, obstruction of justice.

These only concern the election and I'm sure I've missed a few. Then there is the rest like money laundering. Has Trump been compromised by a foreign country? What if anything will his family be charged with? Will his wife leave him and what if anything will Mueller do with the Stormy Daniels case. She says she was threatened and the money used to pay her off may have violated campaign finance laws. She was paid off so she could not influence the election. That too may have ramifications.

Perhaps best of all is that Trump has shit lawyers. All the really good ones don't want any part of this, or him.

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Are you saying if individuals in his campaign are guilty of collusion then he is as well by extension? I'm not familiar with how that charge would work exactly.

Otherwise , yes - I agree with your list of other offenses he may be charged with.

I hope they don't try the campaign finance charge with him because of Daniels. I hate the guy and can't wait to see him gone, but that seems a stretch, even desperate to me.

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I don't know if Trump is guilty by extension unless he was in the loop. It looks to me like he was. He was involved in creating a response to his sons contacts with the Russians. Even though it was after the fact, he may have been involved in real time with the Russian meeting.

Special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional investigators have interviewed roughly 50 people who work at the White House or were involved in Donald Trump’s campaign. That number needs to be updated. It's a month old. There is so much we don't know. Lets not forget Wikileaks.

Hey, campaign finance laws are very important and can not be ignored. The consequences could be catastrophic in the future if a precedent is set here. One that ignores Trump doing it because it is a hot button issue. And don't forget. Daniels said she was threatened.

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The New York Times reports that Trump's former lawyer John Dowd once discussed the idea of pardons for Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn. NYT reporter Michael Schmidt joins MSNBC to explain his latest report.Mar.28.2018

http://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/nyt-trump-s-former-lawyer-once
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If Trumps lawyer actually spoke to the attorneys of Flynn and Manafort as three different sources claim, and told them Trump would pardon them at the time he did, in an attempt to shut them up, think obstruction of justice big time.

One thing is certain. When charges are filed by Mueller they are thorough and appear to be unbeatable or unassailable so far.

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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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Nah. He's alright.

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Of course he's alright.....he's got it all under control...nothing to see here.

"These are not the droids you're looking for"


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Nah. He's alright.

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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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No, they're not. Tick tock...


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Of course he's alright.....he's got it all under control...nothing to see here.

"These are not the droids you're looking for"


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Nah. He's alright.

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Funny SGG, very funny...


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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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Your Impeachment Clock has only been going for 408 days.
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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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Did you come up with this on your own? Did somebody else spur you?
This could result in effective swamp drainage.
That tweeter storm was like a Royal Magnet of distraction and misdirection.
We can hope.
But all of the firings are confusing, or undermine the premise.

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The Mueller investigation is now in it's collusion phase. If there are going to be charges filed they will be filed under the term conspiracy.

And sig, jsf. The fact that Sessions is responsible for a prosecutor from Utah opening an investigation. One looking into the the FBI's investigation into the role Russia played during the election, breaks his recusal agreement. Sessions is interjecting himself into an investigation that is investigating him.

Oops, because Mueller is now investigating that.

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Of course he's alright.....he's got it all under control...nothing to see here.

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Nah. He's alright.

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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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Did you come up with this on your own? Did somebody else spur you?
This could result in effective swamp drainage.
That tweeter storm was like a Royal Magnet of distraction and misdirection.
We can hope.
But all of the firings are confusing, or undermine the premise.

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The Mueller investigation is now in it's collusion phase. If there are going to be charges filed they will be filed under the term conspiracy.

And sig, jsf. The fact that Sessions is responsible for a prosecutor from Utah opening an investigation. One looking into the the FBI's investigation into the role Russia played during the election, breaks his recusal agreement. Sessions is interjecting himself into an investigation that is investigating him.

Oops, because Mueller is now investigating that.

tick tock


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You watch too much TV. The weather is getting nice again. Go get some fresh air.

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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.


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You watch too much TV. The weather is getting nice again. Go get some fresh air.

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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.


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You watch too much TV. The weather is getting nice again. Go get some fresh air.

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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.

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lol. No thanks man.

I have no desire to be a paranoid and delusional idiot like you by spending all of my free time listening to overpaid shills telling you that the sky is falling.

Get a hobby. This one isn't working out too well for you.



PS: Speaking of trolls, the fact that you still haven't fixed your posts means you are intentionally putting out people who quote you. You are the textbook definition of a troll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You watch too much TV. The weather is getting nice again. Go get some fresh air.

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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.


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lol. No thanks man.

I have no desire to be a paranoid and delusional idiot like you by spending all of my free time listening to overpaid shills telling you that the sky is falling.

Get a hobby. This one isn't working out too well for you.



PS: Speaking of trolls, the fact that you still haven't fixed your posts means you are intentionally putting out people who quote you. You are the textbook definition of a troll.

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First, only you have trouble with my signature when quoting me, oops. I have trouble with SECONDS yet you've never seen me whine about it.

Secondly, all your posts are saturated in conspiracy and paranoia. Paranoia is why you don't have sources you rely on. You think sinister entities are behind everything. Wow, that's too funny.



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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.


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lol. No thanks man.

I have no desire to be a paranoid and delusional idiot like you by spending all of my free time listening to overpaid shills telling you that the sky is falling.

Get a hobby. This one isn't working out too well for you.



PS: Speaking of trolls, the fact that you still haven't fixed your posts means you are intentionally putting out people who quote you. You are the textbook definition of a troll.

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First, only you have trouble with my signature when quoting me, oops. I have trouble with SECONDS yet you've never seen me whine about it.

Secondly, all your posts are saturated in conspiracy and paranoia. Paranoia is why you don't have sources you rely on. You think sinister entities are behind everything. Wow, that's too funny.



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You watch too much TV. The weather is getting nice again. Go get some fresh air.

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I would suggest you too watch informed people discuss issues before you form and post an opinion. It would help you to avoid always looking like a moron. Your FOX news biased interpretation of things doesn't cut it.

I'm always astounded at your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge facts, on the many different topics discussed in these threads. Until I think troll. Then it becomes clear who and what you are about.

Someone doesn't have to intentional act like a troll to be one. All they have to do is post like one. This happens when they deny facts and post bullshit.


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lol. No thanks man.

I have no desire to be a paranoid and delusional idiot like you by spending all of my free time listening to overpaid shills telling you that the sky is falling.

Get a hobby. This one isn't working out too well for you.



PS: Speaking of trolls, the fact that you still haven't fixed your posts means you are intentionally putting out people who quote you. You are the textbook definition of a troll.

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First, only you have trouble with my signature when quoting me, oops. I have trouble with SECONDS yet you've never seen me whine about it.

Secondly, all your posts are saturated in conspiracy and paranoia. Paranoia is why you don't have sources you rely on. You think sinister entities are behind everything. Wow, that's too funny.

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Quote yourself, dumbfuck. And if you still can't see why you're putting people out then you're an idiot as well as a troll.

I'm the only one who's bitched about it. Kiki has noticed it too.



I'm not paranoid about anything. I just don't give a shit about stuff that I have no control over. You're the one who's deathly afraid of Russians and guns and our President. Look in the mirror.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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If you don't pay attention to the facts because you don't give a shit, then why the fuck are you always posting an opinion? That moron, is the definition of a troll.


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I dont know wut 6string keeps complaining about your posts. Sumthing about the color? Eazy enuf to edit quotes, I do it on every wun by stopping the bold after the member name.

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If you don't pay attention to the facts because you don't give a shit, then why the fuck are you always posting an opinion? That moron, is the definition of a troll.

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T has an open italics in the beginning of every one of his posts. He never puts the closed italics anywhere in the post, so when you quote him your text is italicized.

I shouldn't have to edit every quote because he's lazy and stupid.

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T has an open italics in the beginning of every one of his posts. He never puts the closed italics anywhere in the post, so when you quote him your text is italicized.

I shouldn't have to edit every quote because he's lazy and stupid.

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Keep in mind SGG, those very same people were appointed by Trump. Plus a good case could be made they actually undermined Hillary's chances of winning. I think that will be the outcome of any investigation.

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T, I think you've hit upon something that can prove to backfire on Sessions. Connecting the dotted lines will certainly present a challenge, but I think that
Mueller may find something specific to that end and put a stop to it.

I'm not sure on either side of the equation. Sessions may or may not have the upper hand on this, only time will tell. The counter investigations may prove the FBIs case for that matter. In any event, people are getting nervous.


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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.

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Did you come up with this on your own? Did somebody else spur you?
This could result in effective swamp drainage.
That tweeter storm was like a Royal Magnet of distraction and misdirection.
We can hope.
But all of the firings are confusing, or undermine the premise.

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The Mueller investigation is now in it's collusion phase. If there are going to be charges filed they will be filed under the term conspiracy.

And sig, jsf. The fact that Sessions is responsible for a prosecutor from Utah opening an investigation. One looking into the the FBI's investigation into the role Russia played during the election, breaks his recusal agreement. Sessions is interjecting himself into an investigation that is investigating him.

Oops, because Mueller is now investigating that.

tick tock


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Really, Haken gets the blame. He bilt this forum himself eonz ago, so cudos for the work, but it iz a muzeum piece now. I run into problemz trying to post sum stuff, particularly with Youtube vidz that are not embed enabled.

I believ he coud get xenforo and customize it to look alot like it duz now, and everything will work perfectly.

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Really, Haken gets the blame. He bilt this forum himself eonz ago, so cudos for the work, but it iz a muzeum piece now. I run into problemz trying to post sum stuff, particularly with Youtube vidz that are not embed enabled.

I believ he coud get xenforo and customize it to look alot like it duz now, and everything will work perfectly.

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I'm not putting any blame on Haken. He's under no obligation to do anything for any of us. I think it's pretty amazing that he keeps the signal going at all considering how weak it's become.

Sure, it's a museum piece, but so is craigslist and that's still one of the most used websites in the world today. I'm not going to blame Haken because some people got used to how easy other forums got and how reliant people have become on their "smart" phones to do everything for them.

Nothing is broken here. All T has to do is put 4 more characters in his signature. He's already got a stupid gif and 3 other closing tags in every post. I've spelled it out what he needs to do to fix the issue.

I don't know if he hasn't fixed it already because he's stupid or he's an asshole. If he doesn't fix it after I posted that image then we have our answer.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I agree. It's funny how stupid and childish you are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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childish and stupid, yes. Now, you see, that was funny.


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I agree. It's funny how stupid and childish you are.

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Legal defense fund for Trump aides under scrutiny by congressional Democrats

Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee sent a letter to the chief ethics agency in the executive branch suggesting that the Patriot Legal Expense Fund may be set up in a way that it could keep the identities of donors secret and could allow the Trump campaign to control who gets disbursements from the fund and to hide the identity of recipients.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/legal-defense-fund-trump-aides-scrutiny
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