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Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:05 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Friday, September 14, 2018 6:04 PM
THG
Friday, September 14, 2018 6:08 PM
Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:24 AM
Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:35 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:03 AM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:12 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:18 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:24 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by THG: I have come to dislike Trump and his clowns so much that anything that stings them makes me happy. That fact that it also makes his supporters look to be dumber than a box of rocks also makes happy. I guess you can say this news of Manafort flipping makes me very very happy. T
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by THG: I have come to dislike Trump and his clowns so much that anything that stings them makes me happy. That fact that it also makes his supporters look to be dumber than a box of rocks also makes happy. I guess you can say this news of Manafort flipping makes me very very happy. T
Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:06 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:10 PM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:15 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Glenn Kirschner tells Lawrence O'Donnell why the plea agreement struck by Paul Manafort leads him to conclude that Manafort has "blockbuster information" to share with Robert Mueller in his investigation of Pres. Trump's campaign and Russia.
Monday, September 17, 2018 2:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Glenn Kirschner tells Lawrence O'Donnell why the plea agreement struck by Paul Manafort leads him to conclude that Manafort has "blockbuster information" to share with Robert Mueller in his investigation of Pres. Trump's campaign and Russia. I'm really looking forward to all of this finally coming out in the open! I'm tired of the endless hype. THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
Monday, September 17, 2018 12:43 PM
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:42 AM
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:54 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Trump Is Still No Closer To Impeachment. At What Point Do Russiagaters Lose Faith? Mueller isn’t going to find anything in 2017 that these vast, sprawling networks wouldn’t have found in 2016. He’s not going to find anything by ‘following the money’ that couldn’t be found infinitely more efficaciously via Orwellian espionage. The factions within the intelligence community that were working to sabotage the incoming administration last year would have leaked proof of collusion if they’d had it. They did not have it then, and they do not have it now. Mueller will continue finding evidence of corruption throughout his investigation, since corruption is to DC insiders as water is to fish, but he will not find evidence of collusion to win the 2016 election that will lead to Trump’s impeachment. It will not happen.” ~ Me, last year. ***** I don’t make predictions very often. Pretty much my entire worldview is premised upon the idea that we are in a wildly unprecedented point in history, that old patterns are breaking down and giving way to novelty, and that, more and more, the only thing we should expect is the unexpected. If I didn’t believe that our species is capable of breaking out of our predictable patterns and pulling off something miraculous from way out of left field, I wouldn’t be bothering with the fight against the omnicidal, ecocidal Orwellian oppression machine that is driving us toward extinction. I’d just make art and hug my kids a lot and wait for the end to come. The above quote was an exception. It was as glaringly obvious then as it is now that if there were any evidence to be found of Trump conspiring with the Russian government to rig the 2016 election, it would have been picked up by the vast, sprawling surveillance networks of the US-centralized empire and leaked to the Washington Post while Obama was still in office. If it didn’t happen then, it won’t happen at all. So my prediction has been bearing out comfortably. Since last year Russiagaters have been insisting that various Trump insiders are going to “flip” any minute now, meaning they’ve been put in a position of legal jeopardy which will cause them to finally spill the beans on this massive secret Russia conspiracy in order to save their own hides. They said Flynn’s about to flip. They said Papadopoulos is about to flip. They said Gates is about to flip. They said Cohen is about to flip. They said Manafort is about to flip. So far all Mueller’s investigative team has turned up on Trump’s team is some corruption and process crimes, because DC insiders are corrupt liars. The only flipping that’s been happening is Russiagaters flipping the fuck out as their hopes are dashed to pieces time and time and time again. Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort was trending yesterday with the usual mainstream anti-Trump fanfare we see whenever Saint Mueller does literally anything, but it didn’t trend for long and their hearts weren’t in it. Hopes that a “flip” was in the mail as news broke that Manafort had taken a plea deal were quickly dashed as people began actually reading the contents of the Mueller indictment for themselves. As noted by Real News’ Aaron Maté(who is in my opinion the most lucid voice on the matter of American Russia hysteria right now), the documents in the indictment disprove a longstanding key Russiagate claim that Manafort was supporting Kremlin interests in Ukraine; Mueller’s own documents prove that Manafort was actually advancing western interests. Additionally, there doesn’t at this time appear to be any reason to believeManafort’s plea deal will involve the Trump campaign at all, and can involve any of Manafort’s other corrupt shenanigans which stretch back years. In fact one of the names which keeps coming up in mainstream punditry as a likely target resulting from Manafort’s arrangement is the Clinton-aligned Tony Podesta. This all fits in with a reliable and consistent pattern which Maté thoroughly documented recently, wherein criminal convictions are being made and plea deals accepted to much manic “BOOM! He’s gonna flip!” celebration among Russiagate conspiracy enthusiasts, but without any part of the actual facts showing any trace of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Russiagaters have been assuring me since the beginning of last year that collusion will be proven, that Trump is going to be impeached and removed from office any minute now and spend the rest of his life behind bars for attacking American democracy and helping a hostile state infiltrate the highest levels of the US government. We are fast approaching the halfway point of this president’s term, and we are not one iota closer to his being removed from office than we were on the day of his inauguration. The BOOMs never bear fruit. The flips never come. All we get is a lot of drama while dangerous escalations between two nuclear superpowers continue to steadily mount with full bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and the full consent of the public. The collusion narrative is like an old rusty Pinto on cinderblocks that racing enthusiasts keep placing bets on because the NASCAR commentators keep saying it’s going to win. The thing ain’t moving; the bets are fueled by nothing but cultish anti-Trumpism and hope. Without collusion between Trump and the Russian government, all you’ve got is a bunch of CNN liberals freaking out about an icy potato patch they seldom even thought about prior to 2016. That icy potato patch happens to be home to thousands of nuclear missiles and a military which could easily enter into a direct confrontation with the US and its allies in the fog of war as things heat up in Syria. You Russiagaters want your BOOM? There’s your fucking BOOM. How long are they going to keep this up? How long are they going to keep feeding into this psychotic narrative which never accomplishes anything other than advancing longstanding neoconservative agendas, despite never seeing any actual progress toward impeachment? How long can the propagandists keep the masses fixated on this fake nonsense, ensuring support for imperialist foreign policy while advancing internet censorship and shoring up control of the narrative from dissident alternative media? How many BOOMs and flips have to fizzle before the acolytes of the Cult of Mueller lose faith? I have nothing but disdain for Trump. But while Democrats are burning their Saint Mueller prayer candles and shrieking about Susan Sarandon, this president is showing zero signs of impending impeachment and spending every single day using the bully pulpit to advance the narrative that he is strengthening the economy and bringing in jobs and putting more money in the pockets of Americans. He is receiving very little pushback against that narrative because of how fixated Democrats are on their Russiagate Hail Mary, and if it remains unchallenged he’s probably going to win in 2020. If the world isn’t a nuclear wasteland by then, of course.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: U.S. Loses Track of Another 1,500 Migrant Children, Investigators Find https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/18/us/politics/us-migrant-children-whereabouts-.html?partner=rss&emc=rss He sure loves America, doesn't he?
Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Trump Is Still No Closer To Impeachment. At What Point Do Russiagaters Lose Faith? Mueller isn’t going to find anything in 2017 that these vast, sprawling networks wouldn’t have found in 2016. He’s not going to find anything by ‘following the money’ that couldn’t be found infinitely more efficaciously via Orwellian espionage. The factions within the intelligence community that were working to sabotage the incoming administration last year would have leaked proof of collusion if they’d had it. They did not have it then, and they do not have it now. Mueller will continue finding evidence of corruption throughout his investigation, since corruption is to DC insiders as water is to fish, but he will not find evidence of collusion to win the 2016 election that will lead to Trump’s impeachment. It will not happen.” ~ Me, last year. ***** I don’t make predictions very often. Pretty much my entire worldview is premised upon the idea that we are in a wildly unprecedented point in history, that old patterns are breaking down and giving way to novelty, and that, more and more, the only thing we should expect is the unexpected. If I didn’t believe that our species is capable of breaking out of our predictable patterns and pulling off something miraculous from way out of left field, I wouldn’t be bothering with the fight against the omnicidal, ecocidal Orwellian oppression machine that is driving us toward extinction. I’d just make art and hug my kids a lot and wait for the end to come. The above quote was an exception. It was as glaringly obvious then as it is now that if there were any evidence to be found of Trump conspiring with the Russian government to rig the 2016 election, it would have been picked up by the vast, sprawling surveillance networks of the US-centralized empire and leaked to the Washington Post while Obama was still in office. If it didn’t happen then, it won’t happen at all. So my prediction has been bearing out comfortably. Since last year Russiagaters have been insisting that various Trump insiders are going to “flip” any minute now, meaning they’ve been put in a position of legal jeopardy which will cause them to finally spill the beans on this massive secret Russia conspiracy in order to save their own hides. They said Flynn’s about to flip. They said Papadopoulos is about to flip. They said Gates is about to flip. They said Cohen is about to flip. They said Manafort is about to flip. So far all Mueller’s investigative team has turned up on Trump’s team is some corruption and process crimes, because DC insiders are corrupt liars. The only flipping that’s been happening is Russiagaters flipping the fuck out as their hopes are dashed to pieces time and time and time again. Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort was trending yesterday with the usual mainstream anti-Trump fanfare we see whenever Saint Mueller does literally anything, but it didn’t trend for long and their hearts weren’t in it. Hopes that a “flip” was in the mail as news broke that Manafort had taken a plea deal were quickly dashed as people began actually reading the contents of the Mueller indictment for themselves. As noted by Real News’ Aaron Maté(who is in my opinion the most lucid voice on the matter of American Russia hysteria right now), the documents in the indictment disprove a longstanding key Russiagate claim that Manafort was supporting Kremlin interests in Ukraine; Mueller’s own documents prove that Manafort was actually advancing western interests. Additionally, there doesn’t at this time appear to be any reason to believeManafort’s plea deal will involve the Trump campaign at all, and can involve any of Manafort’s other corrupt shenanigans which stretch back years. In fact one of the names which keeps coming up in mainstream punditry as a likely target resulting from Manafort’s arrangement is the Clinton-aligned Tony Podesta. This all fits in with a reliable and consistent pattern which Maté thoroughly documented recently, wherein criminal convictions are being made and plea deals accepted to much manic “BOOM! He’s gonna flip!” celebration among Russiagate conspiracy enthusiasts, but without any part of the actual facts showing any trace of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Russiagaters have been assuring me since the beginning of last year that collusion will be proven, that Trump is going to be impeached and removed from office any minute now and spend the rest of his life behind bars for attacking American democracy and helping a hostile state infiltrate the highest levels of the US government. We are fast approaching the halfway point of this president’s term, and we are not one iota closer to his being removed from office than we were on the day of his inauguration. The BOOMs never bear fruit. The flips never come. All we get is a lot of drama while dangerous escalations between two nuclear superpowers continue to steadily mount with full bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and the full consent of the public. The collusion narrative is like an old rusty Pinto on cinderblocks that racing enthusiasts keep placing bets on because the NASCAR commentators keep saying it’s going to win. The thing ain’t moving; the bets are fueled by nothing but cultish anti-Trumpism and hope. Without collusion between Trump and the Russian government, all you’ve got is a bunch of CNN liberals freaking out about an icy potato patch they seldom even thought about prior to 2016. That icy potato patch happens to be home to thousands of nuclear missiles and a military which could easily enter into a direct confrontation with the US and its allies in the fog of war as things heat up in Syria. You Russiagaters want your BOOM? There’s your fucking BOOM. How long are they going to keep this up? How long are they going to keep feeding into this psychotic narrative which never accomplishes anything other than advancing longstanding neoconservative agendas, despite never seeing any actual progress toward impeachment? How long can the propagandists keep the masses fixated on this fake nonsense, ensuring support for imperialist foreign policy while advancing internet censorship and shoring up control of the narrative from dissident alternative media? How many BOOMs and flips have to fizzle before the acolytes of the Cult of Mueller lose faith? I have nothing but disdain for Trump. But while Democrats are burning their Saint Mueller prayer candles and shrieking about Susan Sarandon, this president is showing zero signs of impending impeachment and spending every single day using the bully pulpit to advance the narrative that he is strengthening the economy and bringing in jobs and putting more money in the pockets of Americans. He is receiving very little pushback against that narrative because of how fixated Democrats are on their Russiagate Hail Mary, and if it remains unchallenged he’s probably going to win in 2020. If the world isn’t a nuclear wasteland by then, of course. https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/trump-is-still-no-closer-to-impeachment-at-what-point-do-russiagaters-lose-faith-879a514438fb
Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:31 AM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:01 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:40 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: You're the troll, Russian loser. Everyone knows exactly what you are. I'll enjoy my American prosperity while you wallow in your poverty, Nazi nobody. Enjoy your gruel and rot gut vodka, incel.
Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:28 PM
Monday, September 24, 2018 11:30 AM
Monday, September 24, 2018 11:35 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Is Trump about to fire the head of the Mueller investigation Rob Rosenstein? Trump is with him now.
Monday, September 24, 2018 12:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Is Trump about to fire the head of the Mueller investigation Rob Rosenstein? Trump is with him now. Trump has been pretty low key lately, probably bored and in a firing mood, like some spoiled child that needs attention. Latest I see is he's willing to resign- I don't get the "resign as protest" move. Trump doesn't give a sh*t and supposedly he doesn't like to fire people, so it's like doing him a favor.
Monday, September 24, 2018 12:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Is Trump about to fire the head of the Mueller investigation Rob Rosenstein? T
Monday, September 24, 2018 12:44 PM
Monday, September 24, 2018 12:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: It's looking like he's staying. T
Monday, September 24, 2018 1:01 PM
Monday, September 24, 2018 1:35 PM
Monday, September 24, 2018 1:37 PM
Monday, September 24, 2018 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'll just keep bumping this so we all notice when nothing happens that has anything to do with Russia+Trump+collusion.
Monday, September 24, 2018 2:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'll just keep bumping this so we all notice when nothing happens that has anything to do with Russia+Trump+collusion. You do that and thanks. I like keeping this thread front and center comrade kiki. tick tock T
Monday, September 24, 2018 2:40 PM
Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:04 AM
Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:56 AM
Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:24 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Wednesday, September 26, 2018 11:03 AM
Friday, September 28, 2018 5:31 PM
Friday, September 28, 2018 7:06 PM
Friday, September 28, 2018 9:31 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:50 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Only 2,405 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock. How exciting. 001373
Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Only 2,405 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock. How exciting. 001373
Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:56 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:02 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: 37 days left until the Nov. elections and subpoena power. tick tock T
Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted: 37 days left until the Nov. elections and subpoena power. tick tock T Maybe. I don't know if I'd go trusting those polls from the same people who were telling you certainties 2 years ago though. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted: 37 days left until the Nov. elections and subpoena power. tick tock T
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