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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:31 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, July 30, 2021 8:42 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:57 PM
Quote:The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO. 15 patients who received the vaccine died, 14 who received the placebo died
Quote:15 patients who received the vaccine died, 14 who received the placebo died
Quote:During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died; during the open label period 3 BNT162b2 and 2 original placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding died. None of these deaths were considered related to BNT162b2 by investigators. Causes of death were balanced between BNT162b2 and placebo groups (Table S4).
Quote: https://www.scribd.com/document/517713886/2021-07-28-21261159v1-full Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine
Quote: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1 Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine
Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:03 PM
Quote:COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases: Data from the States https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/ Percent of Fully Vaccinated Individuals That Have Experienced a COVID-19 Breakthrough Event (interactive graph not able to be linked)
Quote:Three-quarters of people infected in Provincetown outbreak were vaccinated, CDC finds https://www.pressherald.com/2021/07/30/cdc-finds-most-people-in-delta-fueled-provincetown-outbreak-were-vaccinated/ The report on the Massachusetts cases, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, offers key evidence bolstering the hypothesis that vaccinated people can spread the more transmissible variant and may be a factor in the summer surge of infections. The full outbreak, which began over the July 4 holiday weekend, is close to 900 cases, but the analysis included only a subset of 469 cases. About three-quarters of infections occurred in people who were fully vaccinated, and that group had received vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson. ... 79% of vaccinated breakthrough infections were symptomatic. Four of five people who were hospitalized were fully vaccinated.
Quote:Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-d9504519a8ae081f785ca012b5ef84d1
Quote:Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w
Quote:469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons.
Quote:CDC Confirms That Viral Loads In Vaccinated People With Delta May Be Infectious, So Masks Are Necessary https://sfist.com/2021/07/27/cdc-confirms-that-viral-loads-in-vaccinated-people-with-delta-are-indistinguishable-from-unvaccinated/
Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: All told, I can see why the CDC has changed its mask guidance. While the data is incomplete, there are indications that SARS-CoV-2 delta is more infectious and more severe than 'normal' SARS-CoV-2. Simple prudence should indicate a safer public policy. And masking is one of the least intrusive, and inexpensive, precautions to take. Effective masks like N95 are once again available on Amazon.com.
Saturday, July 31, 2021 11:37 PM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:55 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:21 AM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 9:25 AM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 10:28 AM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: We shut down nearly everything, laying off tens of millions in the process and adding insult to injury by calling them all non-essentials, ended church, ended sports, ended concerts, made parties illegal, pulled our kids out of school, camped out at home and watched Netflix all day long for the better part of a year, all while making people so terrified they'd scream if people weren't standing 6 feet away from them. Sure. It was the almost-never-N95 masks.
Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:08 PM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:14 PM
Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:13 PM
Monday, August 2, 2021 2:32 PM
Quote: Millions Locked Down As China Battles Worst COVID Outbreak Since Wuhan Monday, Aug 02, 2021 - 11:44 AM We noted last week that the delta variant has finally arrived in China, causing one of the country's worst outbreaks since the original wave of COVID that spread from Wuhan across China (and world). Well, despite authorities' best efforts, the outbreak appears to have worsened over the weekend, and now officials are reimposing COVID-related restrictions in Beijing for the first time in months as questions about the efficacy of Chinese COVID vaccines multiply.
Quote: According to Bloomberg, the outbreak is now the broadest since the original outbreak in late 2019 as cases are being found in 14 of 32 provinces. The fact that delta has spread so widely across China - even if the case numbers, which are likely under-reporting (perhaps dramatically) the true levels of delta penetration, are still relatively low - is alarming government officials. In addition, Beijing has blocked tourists from entering the capital during the peak summer holiday travel season. This is taking place as health authorities just reported the largest weekly death toll in months across Southeast Asia.
Quote: Millions are once again being confined to their homes across China after health authorities reported 55 new locally transmitted cases on Monday, including one more new case in Beijing, as the outbreak spread to more than 20 cities. Beijingers have been asked to avoid leaving the city during the coming days and weeks. Seven new infections were also confirmed in Wuhan, where the new cluster was reportedly traced to a train station (a gaggle of migrant workers were promptly blamed). New cases have been reported in Henan Province, where major flooding has occurred in recent days. In Beijing, and in other major cities across China, the familiar signs of lockdown are now visible everywhere; major cities have tested millions of residents while cordoning off residential compounds. Any close contacts of the infected have been placed under strict quarantine. Per the AFP, more than 1.2MM residents were placed under strict lockdown for the next three days in the central city of Zhuzhou in Hunan province, as authorities prepare their citywide campaign of testing and vaccinations. "The situation is still grim and complicated," the Zhuzhou government said. As we reported last week, the latest outbreak has been linked to a cluster in the city of Nanjing, where nine cleaners at an international airport tested positive on July 20. In the popular tourist destination of Zhangjiajie, famed for its national forest, an outbreak spread last month among theater patrons, who then helped spread the virus across the country. Zhangjiajie locked down all 1.5MM residents on Friday. Officials are urgently seeking people who have recently traveled from Nanjing or Zhangjiajie, and have urged tourists not to travel to areas where cases have been found.
Monday, August 2, 2021 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I wonder when they're going to start bandying around the term "Bio-Terrorist" when referring to people who won't get vaccinated.
Quote:You do not endanger the lives of the many to humor the misconceptions of the few. They can’t or won’t change their minds. It’s time to recognize that. And do it for them.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: This was from a post I made on March 10th, but it was a summation of things I'd been saying way back in 2020. Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him. Guilt them. Guilting him to guilt them. Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before. STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it. STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives. (Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.) STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will. STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them). One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this). But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots). If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home. Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refuse that the Legacy Media starts referring to those who resist vaccination as Bio Terrorists. I've pretty much been spot on for the first three steps. Admittedly, I didn't see handing out a bunch of freebies and doing Lotteries to try to entice people before moving on to Step 4 though. But we are clearly in Step 3.5 right now, and just as I predicted they're throwing away TONS of vaccines since nobody else wants one. Is New Zealand is racing to prove me right on the predictions past Step 4 already? http://www.yout.be.com/watch?v=CpPZH9AM35c Anybody else going to join the race?
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him. Guilt them. Guilting him to guilt them. Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before. STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it. STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives. (Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.) STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will. STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them). One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this). But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots). If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home. Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refuse that the Legacy Media starts referring to those who resist vaccination as Bio Terrorists.
Monday, August 2, 2021 6:56 PM
Quote:this is a good time to remember that in a matter of just six months, another Olympic Games is scheduled to take place in Beijing, where the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leadership coordinated -- and continues to perpetrate -- a massive cover up of the virus’s origins and the circumstances surrounding its initial outbreak. As Director of National Intelligence during much of the pandemic, I know this particularly well.
Monday, August 2, 2021 7:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Not too long ago, Zuckerborg was painting anyone who thought the virus was laboratory- created as a "conspiracy theorist" and banned.
Quote:I have so much freedom of expression that I am afraid of commenting on this video. What if she sees my comment and she deletes my channel? That's how much freedom of expression I have.
Tuesday, August 3, 2021 2:22 PM
Tuesday, August 3, 2021 4:57 PM
Tuesday, August 3, 2021 8:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Since hardly anybody goes to Divoc-91 and a picture is worth 1000 words https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/covid0803.jpeg ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Friday, August 6, 2021 5:01 PM
Friday, August 6, 2021 5:12 PM
Quote:Republicans ramp up the racism to deflect blame for COVID surge Amanda Marcotte Everyone knows that is unvaccinated Trumpers spreading delta, but Republicans want to blame immigrants instead Rather than blame the obvious culprits for the pandemic — Fox News-addled anti-vaxxers — Republicans are increasingly accusing immigrants at the Southern border of bringing in COVID-19, and Biden of supposedly letting them. After Biden rightfully called out Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, for his part in letting COVID-19 run rampant, DeSantis pitifully tried to hit back by claiming Biden "imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border." https://www.salon.com/2021/08/06/republicans-ramp-up-the-racism-to-deflect-blame-for-covid-surge/
Sunday, August 8, 2021 4:46 PM
Sunday, August 8, 2021 5:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I cruise by Salon every now and again to see what they're up to. Quote:Republicans ramp up the racism to deflect blame for COVID surge Amanda Marcotte Everyone knows that is unvaccinated Trumpers spreading delta, but Republicans want to blame immigrants instead Rather than blame the obvious culprits for the pandemic — Fox News-addled anti-vaxxers — Republicans are increasingly accusing immigrants at the Southern border of bringing in COVID-19, and Biden of supposedly letting them. After Biden rightfully called out Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, for his part in letting COVID-19 run rampant, DeSantis pitifully tried to hit back by claiming Biden "imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border." https://www.salon.com/2021/08/06/republicans-ramp-up-the-racism-to-deflect-blame-for-covid-surge/ Does the author mean to say that illegal immigrants couldn't possibly be bringing in COVID-19 because they've all been vaccinated? This is an egregious use of the 'false dilemma' lie.
Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:11 PM
Quote:The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO.
Quote:Gibraltar, Iceland See MASSIVE Covid Spike Despite Over 90% of Population Vaccinated Countries across globe see similar phenomenon where the vaccinated are being reinfected with Covid. Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease! https://nworeport.me/2021/07/30/gibraltar-iceland-see-massive-covid-spike-despite-over-90-of-population-vaccinated/
Monday, August 9, 2021 7:06 AM
Monday, August 9, 2021 8:39 AM
Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:56 AM
Quote: COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days By ROSSELLA TERCATIN AUGUST 5, 2021 22:24 The Phase II trial for an Israeli COVID drug saw some 29 out of 30 patients, moderate to serious, recover within days. Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer. The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days. “The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.” The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras. Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body. “It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.” The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs. “This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said. CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm. Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance. “This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.” “Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.” Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery. “We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said. “By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added. The team is now ready to launch the last phase of the study. “As promising as the findings of the first phases of a treatment can be, no one can be sure of anything until results are compared to the ones of patients who receive a placebo,” he said. Some 155 coronavirus patients will take part in the study. Two-thirds of them will be administered the drug, and one-third a placebo. The study will be conducted in Israel and it might be also carried out in other places if the number of patients in the country will not suffice. “We hope to complete it by the end of the year,” Arber said. If the results are confirmed, he vowed that the treatment can be made available relatively quickly and at a low cost. “In addition, a success could pave the wave to treat many other diseases,” he concluded.
Wednesday, August 11, 2021 3:32 PM
Friday, August 13, 2021 8:36 AM
Quote: Comparison of two highly-effective mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 during periods of Alpha and Delta variant prevalence Although clinical trials and real-world studies have affirmed the effectiveness and safety of the FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines, reports of breakthrough infections and persistent emergence of new variants highlight the need to vigilantly monitor the effectiveness of these vaccines. Here we compare the effectiveness of two full-length Spike protein-encoding mRNA vaccines
Quote: from Moderna (mRNA-1273) and Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2) in the Mayo Clinic Health System over time from January to July 2021, during which either the Alpha or Delta variant was highly prevalent.... cohorts of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals from Minnesota (n = 25,589 each) matched on age, sex, race, history of prior SARS-CoV-2 PCR testing, and date of full vaccination. Both vaccines were highly effective during this study period against SARS-CoV-2 infection mRNA-1273: 86%, 95%CI: 81-90.6%; BNT162b2: 76%, 95%CI: 69-81% and COVID-19 associated hospitalization mRNA-1273: 91.6%, 95% CI: 81-97%; BNT162b2: 85%, 95% CI: 73-93%. However, in July, the effectiveness against infection was considerably lower for mRNA-1273 76%, 95% CI: 58-87% [and] more pronounced [reduced effectivenss for] BNT162b2 42%, 95% CI: 13-62%. [This was during] ... Delta variant prevalence in Minnesota increase from 0.7% in May to over 70% in July whereas the Alpha variant prevalence decreased from 85% to 13% over the same time period.
Friday, August 13, 2021 8:52 AM
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Friday, August 13, 2021 9:15 AM
Quote:Other variants trigger more traditional COVID-19 symptoms that resemble the flu, such as the loss of smell, fever, shortness of breath, or persistent cough. However, the Delta variant appears to present more like the common cold, causing upper respiratory symptoms such as a sore throat or runny nose.
Friday, August 13, 2021 10:30 AM
Friday, August 13, 2021 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OK, this is the first that I've heard that these are both full-length spike protein-encoding vaccines. I had read that sputnik V was, but didn't know that about these
Friday, August 13, 2021 8:48 PM
Friday, August 13, 2021 9:59 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 2:39 AM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 2:40 AM
Quote: I looked very thoroughly into the supposed link between syncytin-1 and SARS-CoV-2 Spike1 - and it just isn't there. I can post the links, but unless you read them, you won't see what I saw. But if you're interested, here's one example. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352081823_SARS-CoV-2_spike_protein_seropositivity_from_vaccination_or_infection_does_not_cause_sterility/fulltext/60bf9bda458515bfdb54ca29/SARS-CoV-2-spike-protein-seropositivity-from-vaccination-or-infection-does-not-cause-sterility.pdf I sum however, looking at pregnancy outcomes on down through the individual amino acid sequences of both syncytin-1 and SARS-CoV-2 Spike1, there is no evidence of any effect on pregnancy which is the exact critical function of syncytin-1, and virtually no homology of it with SARS-CoV-2 Spike1 at the amino acid level (the longest stretch of amino acid similarities is =2-amino acids the same, one amino acid different, followed by 2 amino acids the same=). (The only way people 'make it work' is by saying different amino acids are the same thing - oh, this is a hydrocarbon-chain amino acid so having this different other hydrocarbon-chain amino acid instead is just as good. Here's the list of supposed amino acid homologies. Each amino acid is designated by a single letter. And you'll see that in many of the areas of supposed identity, the letters are NOT the same. Basically, someone decided a different amino acid was good enough to count. ) In addition, I can't find a critical role for syncytin-1 besides pregnancy. And that means syncytin-1 has no central role in males, and no central role in the elderly. And therefore its relative lack has no central role in health for non-pregnant females. I do get that some old people smell funky because I've smelled that same smell myself on some of the many thousands of patients I've dealt with in my various jobs. And maybe some seriously ill people also smelled funky in the same way (and I do means seriously ill, as in dying of heart failure). But as much as I looked, I found no link between 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites) and syncytin-1.
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:33 AM
Quote: Vaccine Expert Vanden Bossche Calls For "Immediate Halt" To Vaccinations, Says They Encourage "Escape Mutant" Variants
Quote: C-19 Pandemia: Quo vadis, homo sapiens? 1. Summary: The WHO’s mass vaccination program has been installed in response to a public health emergency of international concern. As of the early days of the mass vaccination campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual health. Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated... This first critical step can only be achieved by calling an immediate halt to the mass vaccination program and replacing it by widespread use of antiviral chemoprophylactics while dedicating massive public health resources to scaling early multidrug treaments of Covid-19 disease.
Quote:India's Ivermectin Blackout
Quote: Ivermectin Wins in India News of India's defeat of the Delta variant should be common knowledge. It is just about as obvious as the nose on one's face. It is so clear when one looks at the graphs that no one can deny it.
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