Quote:

---

Originally posted by second:
www.justsecurity.org/62384/roger-stone-president-told-mueller/

“President Donald Trump told special counsel Robert Mueller in writing that Roger Stone did not tell him about WikiLeaks ….”

“Stone’s denial matches with what Trump told Mueller: that the two never spoke about WikiLeaks.”

The President may have committed perjury (or made an intentional false statement) in his response to the Special Counsel by denying that he and Stone communicated about WikiLeaks.

It is hard to fathom that the two men did not discuss Stone’s information on WikiLeaks given the detailed revelations in Stone’s indictment about his communications with senior Trump Campaign officials and his work on behalf of the Campaign in liaising with WikiLeaks.

As Chris Cuomo said to Stone on Friday night, “he [President Trump] has known you the longest, OK. He has got the deepest relationship with you … Why would people believe that his oldest most trusted adviser was doing something like this for him at the same time that he kept talking up WikiLeaks and yet he knew nothing about it?”

More at www.justsecurity.org/62384/roger-stone-president-told-mueller/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Whether they actually did talk about it in person or not, he's probably going to have little trouble avoiding this one.

I've mentioned that I've called out Stone for lying about Wikileaks a few times over the years because I heard him say the exact opposite on Info Wars during the months leading up to the 2016 election.


Why would Stone even go on a conspiracy theorist webcast like Info Wars? I admit myself I was pretty gullible back then (and drunk pretty much 24/7) and when I realized that Alex Jones was the guy making wacko videos about Nibiru and CERN being filled with a bunch of Satanists that were opening up gates to hell I promptly stopped watching him.

I suspect this was a tactical move on Stone's part, since the Info Wars site was really only watched by hard core Trump supporters, many of them probably unwittingly watching them as if they were a real news cast because they did a good job of coming off as one. Hell... it seems like anybody that supported Hillary over the years didn't even watch it out of morbid curiosity since it took years of court cases for them to know what I already knew about him... which is that he was lying about Wikileaks.

He may very well have never once spoken directly to Trump about Wikileaks and was using Info Wars to pass along that information out in the wide open.

According to Alex Jones right after the election, Trump had called him and thanked him. This event was supposedly within a few days after the election was over. I never heard audio of this phone call. It may or may not exist in the ether.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But what you don't get is that a lot of us just don't view Trump, or what's happened in the last two years in that light.

Sure. It's not perfect, but I'll take the last two years of Trump over any two of the last 16 under Obama or GWB.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Almost one year and over 2000 posts and still nothing.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by THG:
Funny how the trolls have gone from no interference by russia in our elections, and no one from Trumps campaign ever had any contact with the russians, to no charges against Trump. Yet comrade trolls, yet. HILARIOUS

tick tac

T

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Whatchu talkin 'bout, Willis?

The whole Russia thing is bullshit. Has been for over two years now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I'm no fan of Bernie Madoff.

I reckon you could find a harsh word or two from me directed his way in these forums if you dug deep enough.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I'm no fan of Bernie Madoff.

I reckon you could find a harsh word or two from me directed his way in these forums if you dug deep enough.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

But do you see the connection between the excruciatingly slow government investigation of Bernie Madoff and Trump? I do.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I'm no fan of Bernie Madoff.

I reckon you could find a harsh word or two from me directed his way in these forums if you dug deep enough.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

But do you see the connection between the excruciatingly slow government investigation of Bernie Madoff and Trump? I do.

---

Sure. I see a possibility that he's done something worth losing the job over. I'm pretty sure that if you dug deep enough that you could say the same thing for 80% or more of every politician that ever lived as well.

What amazes me is that 2 years have gone by with EVERYONE against him and he's still in the seat.

That's just the rub here. This stuff started before he even took office. We've heard every single day that he's this or that without a single day off. The outrage when Hillary lost was so bad. There was literally crying and screaming (I can show you videos of that, if you didn't see them, or in case you've forgotten). This has NEVER happened before in the history of America... Certainly never on this large of a scale.

I often talk about choosing your battles, and how I've learned to choose mine. Can you see how the daily parade of every single little thing over two years can work to actually undermine any legitimacy to any claims that might actually hold water?

I can.


I've already said I'd be the first to admit I was wrong if something truly damning comes up. I still don't think that anything will. And you and I both know that if anybody is going to go after Trump directly, it better damned well be the Big Show. They're not going to be able to pull a Roger Stone conviction for some two bit crimes on the side.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I'm no fan of Bernie Madoff.

I reckon you could find a harsh word or two from me directed his way in these forums if you dug deep enough.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

But do you see the connection between the excruciatingly slow government investigation of Bernie Madoff and Trump? I do.

---

Sure. I see a possibility that he's done something worth losing the job over. I'm pretty sure that if you dug deep enough that you could say the same thing for 80% or more of every politician that ever lived as well.

What amazes me is that 2 years have gone by with EVERYONE against him and he's still in the seat.

That's just the rub here. This stuff started before he even took office. We've heard every single day that he's this or that without a single day off. The outrage when Hillary lost was so bad. There was literally crying and screaming (I can show you videos of that, if you didn't see them, or in case you've forgotten). This has NEVER happened before in the history of America... Certainly never on this large of a scale.

I often talk about choosing your battles, and how I've learned to choose mine. Can you see how the daily parade of every single little thing over two years can work to actually undermine any legitimacy to any claims that might actually hold water?

I can.


I've already said I'd be the first to admit I was wrong if something truly damning comes up. I still don't think that anything will. And you and I both know that if anybody is going to go after Trump directly, it better damned well be the Big Show. They're not going to be able to pull a Roger Stone conviction for some two bit crimes on the side.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

I see that you are not getting the point. I have been hearing for 66 years that smoking causes cancer and heart attack. Many people I know heard the same, but it did not stop them. Now they are dead from lung cancer and heart attack. Was it wrong for the MSM to tell them over and over what they should have understood after being told only one time? Remember: they are dead and I believe it is the smokers' fault, not the tobacco company for downplaying the risks of smoking. All the dead smokers I knew had sound reasons to not believe the tobacco companies, and yet they would actually claim that there was no proof smoking kills. They stop that nonsense of no proof either once they were in the hospital, or with the most stubborn of my friends, they were dead. Many Trump voters are also saying "No Proof".

(Personal note: December 2018 is the most recent death from cancer of a friend who was a long time heavy smoker, although the drinking didn't help, either. Marshall was 56. )

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do not compare Rachel Maddow breaking down in tears live after Donald Trump was elected president to smoking leading to cancer and heart attack.

If that's your point, I do get it. It's batshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh boy....

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't see anything bad in those graphs. I'll file that under SoS.

I think your argument here is with JSF, not me. I don't go around talking about how great the economy is right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What I find funny about you here, Second, is that you somehow think it's any different than Obama lying about the economy.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Quantitative Easing and selling out our grandchildren does look pretty good in the short term on a graph.

Thanks for that, Barry.

---