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Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump’s Speech Had 1 Eerie Parallel To Nixon’s Final State Of The Union

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nixon-state-of-the-union_us_5c5bbd1
6e4b00187b5583133


President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday contained a callback to one delivered by President Richard Nixon when he was under investigation in the Watergate scandal.

“The time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end,” Nixon said on Jan. 30, 1974.

Trump on Tuesday also demanded an end to investigations against him and his administration.

“If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation,” Trump said. “It just doesn’t work that way.”

NowThis created a mashup of the two speeches:
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nixon-state-of-the-union_us_5c5bbd1
6e4b00187b5583133


Less than four months after Nixon’s demand, the House Judiciary Committee began hearings on articles of impeachment against Nixon.

By the end of July 1974, the committee approved the articles of impeachment by a vote of 27-11, with six Republicans joining all of the Democrats on the committee.

A full vote in the House never took place as Nixon announced his resignation on Aug. 8, 1974, effective at noon the following day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



Do Right, Be Right. :)

What I am telling you is that Congress is extremely slow about everything important. 45 years has passed since Nixon, but Congress has only gotten slower because there is no Vietnam War fiasco to motivate them to fire the idiot that is running a war. Congress couldn't bring themselves to end Nixon in 90 days or less, like any board of directors would quickly fire a CEO that was not performing. Right now there really isn't a powerful motivation for Congress to quickly fire Trump because he has not yet screwed up his equivalent of the Vietnam War. I suppose if Trump invaded Mexico to stop illegal aliens, since he can't get funding for his Texas Wall, Congress would start moving on impeachment because it would be motivated to get rid of him by Trump's stupidity and incompetence.

Now that I think about a Trump/Mexico War for 10 minutes, that War would have to run for at least 2 years before Congress would admit the US Army was losing, increasing the flow of illegals into the US, and unnecessarily killing thousands of civilians. The 2020 election will be here before then. Congress won't impeach until after Trump wins a second term.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:01 AM

REAVERFAN


This is why literacy is so important.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I agree. You should start practicing it.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is laughable and that is why Trump will not be impeached in the next two years: he can't commit an act big enough to get him removed from office fast. That is not because Trump is wise but because it is impossible to make a big and dumb enough mistake to get Congress to move forward in less than two years. Both the Vietnam and Iraq Wars had been run incompetently for many years before a majority in Congress got fed up with the President's stupidity. Congress does not do fast and furious reaction to events. But Trump does many laughable things that his voters can't understand are better jokes for TV comedians than they are policy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Only 2,276 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002036

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,276 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting.

You could have stopped years ago listing days because Pelosi said she won't allow the House to vote for impeachment. She is delighted with four years of Trump shoving his head up the ass of every Trump voter, just as much as the Trump voters are, but Pelosi's reasons are different. And McConnell won't let a trial in the Senate end with Trump's conviction.
www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/trump-impeachment-talk-pelosi-244336


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There would be no point to a US/Mexico war, and the idea is laughable.

Consider me the crow eater of the year if you're right and Trump is such an evil mastermind that he can convince his voting base that the answer to our problems is going to war with Mexico.

Right now I'm filing that under "Not gonna happen in a million years".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is laughable and that is why Trump will not be impeached in the next two years: he can't commit an act big enough to get him removed from office fast. That is not because Trump is wise but because it is impossible to make a big and dumb enough mistake to get Congress to move forward in less than two years. Both the Vietnam and Iraq Wars had been run incompetently for many years before a majority in Congress got fed up with the President's stupidity. Congress does not do fast and furious reaction to events. But Trump does many laughable things that his voters can't understand are better jokes for TV comedians than they are policy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:58 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by second:You could have stopped years ago listing days because Pelosi said she won't allow the House to vote for impeachment. She is delighted with four years of Trump shoving his head up the ass of every Trump voter, just as much as the Trump voters are, but Pelosi's reasons are different. And McConnell won't let a trial in the Senate end with Trump's conviction.


Seriously, why would the Dems want to get rid of Trump when he's in the process of destroying the GOP and energizing more undecideds to vote for "anything but GOP." He's a free 5 times daily advertisement for why the GOP is evil and needs to die and at the same time a cautionary tale for Dems.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:01 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.



Riiiiight. Like Jimmy - failed-comedian-can-only-get-a-laugh-from-some-low-forehead-losers-on-a-free-platform-like-Youtube - Cricket is so hilarious.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If Mueller proves Trump took $1 billion from Putin, Trump voters would approve because a rich man can't be bribed. It means Trump cheated the Russians out of that billion, which makes him a great businessman.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:44 PM

THG


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Donald Trump Cries ‘Presidential Harassment’ Over Upcoming Investigations


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Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Donald Trump Cries ‘Presidential Harassment’ Over Upcoming Investigations

Nixon got caught cheating on his taxes while he was President. Trump does not want to end like Nixon did: paying what he owes. That is why Trump is bitching about harassment from Democrats wanting his tax returns.
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument
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Nixon's greatest concern with the IRS audit and the JCT investigation was that fraud might be charged, thereby imposing a civil fraud penalty of 50 percent of the tax deficiency, increasing his chances for impeachment. Amazingly, fraud was not mentioned either by the IRS or by the committee report. However, the House Judiciary Committee, which was considering the impeachment of Nixon, stated that it might investigate the possibility of tax fraud.

By agreeing to pay $465,000, Nixon's wealth was reduced to half of the previous $988,522. One White House spokesman stated that Nixon was "almost totally wiped out" by the agreement (WSJ, Apr. 5, 1974). However, Nixon was fortunate to have had $433,000 in liquid assets to pay the tax deficiency.

Trump does NOT want his wealth cut in half as was Nixon's.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:26 PM

REAVERFAN


He also doesn't want to be convicted of treason.

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Friday, February 8, 2019 8:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He also doesn't want to be convicted of treason.

Nixon committed treason, but proof that would stand up in a court room came only after Nixon was already dead. If there is proof against Trump, I believe it will arrive many years too late.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-con
spired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461


On the other hand, proof arrived after only a few years that Nixon cheated many times on his taxes, even while he was President. Trump has already been caught several times cheating on his taxes, in the amount of $550 million, but the time limit for prosecuting him was past. I believe that Trump continued to cheat. The proof would be in tax returns for which the time limit has not expired for prosecution. Those tax returns that Trump is keeping top secret could be evidence of tax fraud.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


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Friday, February 8, 2019 8:31 AM

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Eighteen years before Special Counsel Robert Mueller began his investigation into foreign interference in a U.S. election, Palmer warned Congress about Russian “political donations to U.S. politicians and political parties to obtain influence.” What was at stake could well be systemic contagion: Russian values might infect and then weaken the moral defense systems of American politics and business.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/how-kleptocracy-came-to-a
merica/580471
/
Russian-Style Kleptocracy Is Infiltrating America

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) exposed some of the biggest flaws and loopholes in campaign finance laws this week and she did it in just five minutes. During a hearing, the freshman lawmaker created a game in which she pretended to be “a really, really bad guy” who wants to abuse the system as much as possible. She revealed how it was perfectly legal for a lawmaker to invest in an industry, then write laws to benefit that industry and increase the value of the investment. As lax as the laws are for members of Congress, there are even fewer restrictions for a president.

More at www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-campaign-finance
_us_5c5d246be4b03afe8d6637ff


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Friday, February 8, 2019 1:48 PM

REAVERFAN


GOP Warns That Releasing Trump’s Taxes Could Lead to More Transparency
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/gop-warns-releasing-trumps-taxe
s-could-lead-to-transparency.html



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Friday, February 8, 2019 7:07 PM

REAVERFAN


Maria Butina Isn't Done Cooperating With U.S. Prosecutors
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-08/maria-butina-still-
not-done-cooperating-with-u-s-prosecutors?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_content=politics&utm_source=twitter


Prosecutors and Butina’s lawyers told a Washington federal judge Friday that since her cooperation isn’t complete, they’re not ready to suggest a date for sentencing.

Just three days ago, Butina’s boyfriend, conservative political operative Paul Erickson, was indicted on wire-fraud and money-laundering charges by a federal grand jury in South Dakota.

Butina’s lawyers and the prosecutors jointly asked U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan to postpone a scheduled Feb. 12 hearing to Feb. 26. Chutkan granted their request in an order issued 45 minutes later.

The Russian plot is being exposed.

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Friday, February 8, 2019 7:17 PM

THG


tick tock

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Friday, February 8, 2019 10:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... somebody's got to be funny. All the lefty "comedians" out there sure aren't.



Riiiiight. Like Jimmy - failed-comedian-can-only-get-a-laugh-from-some-low-forehead-losers-on-a-free-platform-like-Youtube - Cricket is so hilarious.



He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:07 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.



My Jimmy's - huh? Who are my Jimmy's? Fallon? Kimmel maybe? Just guessing - don't watch them, from the little I've seen don't much care for either one's show or their "humor." You have a very simple way of looking at things. Maybe you meant "'jammies?"

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Saturday, February 9, 2019 4:30 PM

REAVERFAN


Legal Expert: Trump Engaged in a ‘Multi-State Criminal Conspiracy’ to Violate Immigration and Human Trafficking Laws
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-expert-trump-engaged-in-a-m
ulti-state-criminal-conspiracy-to-violate-immigration-and-human-trafficking-laws
/

Oh, dear.

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Saturday, February 9, 2019 4:31 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's funnier than either of your Jimmy's.



My Jimmy's - huh? Who are my Jimmy's? Fallon? Kimmel maybe? Just guessing - don't watch them, from the little I've seen don't much care for either one's show or their "humor." You have a very simple way of looking at things. Maybe you meant "'jammies?"



They all spend the day in their jammies where Jack lives.

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Saturday, February 9, 2019 7:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. If we so choose...

How's that two day weekend treating you, bud? Awwww.... halfway over already?

Man... sucks to be you.

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Monday, February 11, 2019 1:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Robert Mueller's lead prosecutor drops hint suggesting Russian collusion is still very much on the menu
https://theweek.com/speedreads/823078/robert-muellers-lead-prosecutor-
drops-hint-suggesting-russian-collusion-still-much-menu

Tick tock.

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Monday, February 11, 2019 7:17 PM

REAVERFAN


TRUMP OFFICIALS 'DOING RUSSIA'S BIDDING' TO GET RICHER AGAINST U.S. NATIONAL INTERESTS, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-officials-doing-russia-bidding-get-rich
er-1327143


“What [Weissman] is proposing, even though it is heavily redacted … seems a kind of grand bargain involving not simply a sweetheart deal for Russia and Ukraine, but the lifting of sanctions, which Putin dearly wanted,” Litman explained. He pointed out that “the glue” holding the narrative together is the “personal financial interests of the actors.”

The legal expert said these would be for “Manafort to make money from [pro-Russian former Ukrainian President Viktor] Yanukovych, Flynn to do something with the sanctions, and Trump to build his big crown jewel of the Trump Tower.”

“It really seems to be getting toward quite a grand scheme,” Litman concluded, “where officials are feathering their nests at the expense of U.S. national interests, and doing Russia’s bidding.”

Manafort has already been convicted of financial crimes in relation to Mueller’s ongoing probe. He also shared confidential polling data from the 2016 campaign with Konstantin Kilimnik, whom Mueller’s team has linked to Russian intelligence. He is now accused of lying to investigators about sharing that information. Five other top Trump associates have been indicted, convicted or pleaded guilty to charges connected to the ongoing investigation.

Manafort’s communications with Kilimnik began in early August 2016 and continued up through Trump’s inauguration in January 2017. Weismann suggested, according to The Times, that Kilimnik and Manafort were pushing for a policy that would remove sanctions targeting Russia in exchange for a peace deal in Ukraine, which involved splitting the country and allowing ousted Kremlin-backed Yanukovych to lead a breakaway region of the Eastern European nation. Both aspects of the policy would be in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favor and greatly serve Russian interests.

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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:33 AM

JO753

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I giv it 50-50 that Trump will try to do another shutdown. This iz based on the idea that he wants to get impeached bekuz he hates being Prez.

He thinks he coud tell hiz boss that he had no choise and get Pence to pardon him.

It woud also depend on him beleeving he coud convins Putin he can still be a big help, so dont spill the kompromat beanz.

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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:44 AM

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We now go to Sarah Huckabee Sanders for the same reaction to every news story.



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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:17 AM

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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


"Same spin, different day".

Is this another compilation of Rachel Maddow Russia moments?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:22 AM

THG


More Americans have confidence in Mueller than Trump

56 percent of respondents were more inclined to accept Mueller's version of the facts, as opposed to 33 percent who put more trust in Trump's accounts. Respondents were randomly selected and identified as 32 percent Democrat, 39 percent independent and 26 percent Republican

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-more-americans-have-confi
dence-in-mueller-than-trump/ar-BBTugIz?li=BBnb7Kz


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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Why not 33% for each? Or better yet, why not 50/50 with the two parties that matter at the end of the day. They don't even try to hide the fact that they intentionally skew the poll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:18 AM

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Quote:


We now go to Sarah Huckabee Sanders Rachel Maddow for the same reaction to every news story.



Ruusia!Russia!Russia!

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62843

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:41 AM

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Trump is a nut:

The president began to talk about how upset he was that Comey had flown home on his government plane from Los Angeles — Comey had been giving a speech there when he learned he was fired. The president wanted to know how that had happened.

I told him that bureau lawyers had assured me there was no legal issue with Comey coming home on the plane. I decided that he should do so. The existing threat assessment indicated he was still at risk, so he needed a protection detail. Since the members of the protection detail would all be coming home, it made sense to bring everybody back on the same plane they had used to fly out there. It was coming back anyway. The president flew off the handle: That’s not right! I don’t approve of that! That’s wrong! He reiterated his point five or seven times.

I said, I’m sorry that you disagree, sir. But it was my decision, and that’s how I decided. The president said, I want you to look into that! I thought to myself: What am I going to look into? I just told you I made that decision.

The ranting against Comey spiraled. I waited until he had talked himself out.

Toward the end of the conversation, the president brought up the subject of my wife. Jill had run unsuccessfully for the Virginia state Senate back in 2015, and the president had said false and malicious things about her during his campaign in order to tarnish the FBI. He said, How is your wife? I said, She’s fine. He said, When she lost her election, that must have been very tough to lose. How did she handle losing? Is it tough to lose?

I replied, I guess it’s tough to lose anything. But she’s rededicated herself to her career and her job and taking care of kids in the emergency room. That’s what she does.

He replied in a tone that sounded like a sneer. He said, “Yeah, that must’ve been really tough. To lose. To be a loser.”

I wrote a memo about this conversation that very day. I wrote memos about my interactions with President Trump for the same reason that Comey did: to have a contemporaneous record of conversations with a person who cannot be trusted.

More at www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/andrew-mccabe-fbi-book-ex
cerpt-the-threat/582748
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump is a nut:



Maybe... But he's a nut that was just reported to have not been found guilty of any Russian collusion.

Whoopsie!

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:15 PM

THG


The Senate did not clear Trump of collusion.
tick tock____T


‘Prosecutors Almost Never Have Direct Evidence Of Criminal Conspiracies’


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Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So that's the new narrative here, huh?

We weren't expecting to actually find any proof!

lol

Priceless.

Guess Maddow's job is safe and she'll be talking about her conspiracy theories until at least 2020.

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Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:48 PM

THG


Question, does jack understand anything? Answer, nope.

T



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Friday, February 15, 2019 3:52 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Question, does jack understand anything? Answer, nope.



Nope - to paraphrase Twitter: "Almost every major player of the Trump Campaign has been indicted, plead guilty, and is going to, or in jail. This has been the most successful witch hunt since the Wizard of Oz."

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Friday, February 15, 2019 7:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


All I know is that he said that the swamp would be drained. Looks like a lot of 'em are being flushed out. I know people who've had a hardon for Roger Stone for decades.


Still... No Russia collusion though.

Remember we do have a boatload of posts here from the last two years we can refer to when you guys find yourself completely changing your tune about all of this a few months from now when the dust settles as a reminder of how you used to think before the media slowly changed focus.


Ask me how I know.

Better yet, I'll just tell you. I saw it all happen during the GWB administration already. Some of us have better memory than others though.


lol.... Christ.

Some of us here actually sung John McCain's praises and have said they long for the days of GWB. Too funny.

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Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:39 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The special counsel did not recommend a specific sentence for Manafort, but as a ballpark, he said he agreed with the probation department’s proposed guidelines for a sentence of at least 19 and a half years.

“Manafort acted for more than a decade as if he were above the law, and deprived the federal government and various financial institutions of millions of dollars,” Mueller wrote. “The sentence here should reflect the seriousness of these crimes, and serve to both deter Manafort and others from engaging in such conduct.”

Manafort was convicted of financial crimes after a trial in Virginia, and then struck a plea deal to avert a second trial in Washington, DC. So he will be sentenced by two different judges — T.S. Ellis III in Virginia, and Amy Berman Jackson in the District of Columbia.

This first sentencing memo was filed in Virginia, and focuses on Manafort’s financial crimes: filing false income tax returns, not declaring foreign assets, and bank fraud.

All of the charges against Manafort have so far related to his past work for the former government of Ukraine, his finances, or attempting to interfere with the investigation. He has not been charged with any criminal conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 elections.

But Mueller clearly believes Manafort has still been hiding a great deal. The special counsel accused him of lying about his sharing of Trump campaign poll data with a Russian associate . . .

It’s been widely speculated that Manafort is hoping for a pardon from President Trump, and Mueller’s team even said in court that this could be a potential motivation for his false statements. Trump has conspicuously declined to rule out such a move. (During his final month in office, if Trump does pardon Manafort for tax cheating, that is all the evidence needed that Trump did it to protect Trump. Why else would he pardon a tax cheat? Sarah Huckabee Sanders will give some bullshit explanation.)

More at www.vox.com/2019/2/15/18226407/mueller-manafort-sentencing-memo

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:41 AM

THG


It gets real interesting 5 minutes in.

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Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:57 AM

THG


Get a load of this shit. It's all based on known facts, zero speculation. Can you say tick tock. I can, I can say tick tock

T







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Saturday, February 16, 2019 9:06 AM

THG


Thing is, we've known all that's being reported concerning the Mueller Russia investigation for a year and a half now. Some here still play stupid as the proof continues to be brought forth. Well, that said, we know jack really is. Stupid I mean.

T


Prosecutors say they have Roger Stone's WikiLeaks communications


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Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:42 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump has no understanding of how to set a policy agenda or get anything done. Consequently, without Paul Ryan around to drive a legislative agenda that he can rubber-stamp, he’s flailing. First, shutting down the government and throwing millions of people’s lives into chaos. Now, reopening the government having obtained nothing he couldn’t have had in December while adopting a Hail Mary “emergency” scheme that is only going to make things worse. It’s a much better outcome than a new shutdown, but it should all make us worry about the president’s shaky ability to handle a real crisis.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:19 PM

THG


Mueller questions Cambridge Analytica director Brittany Kaiser

A director of the controversial data company Cambridge Analytica, who appeared with Arron Banks at the launch of the Leave.EU campaign, has been subpoenaed by the US investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-questions-cambridge-an
alytica-director-brittany-kaiser/ar-BBTIquX?ocid=spartanntp


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Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:10 PM

THG


‘Evidence in plain sight’ of Trump collusion with Russia, Schiff says

Rep. Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, said Sunday that there is ample evidence Donald Trump’s presidential campaign colluded with Russians.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/evidence-in-plain-sight-of-tru
mp-collusion-with-russia-schiff-says/ar-BBTHT0B?ocid=spartanntp


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Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:03 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
‘Evidence in plain sight’ of Trump collusion with Russia, Schiff says

Climategate was about trying to distract the public and the policymakers with a fake scandal going into the Copenhagen Summit, also known as the United Nations Climate Change Conference, in 2009, which was the first opportunity for meaningful progress on international climate policy in years. (And we all know Trump's fake climate policy, don't we?)

A compelling case can be made that Russia’s involvement and Saudi Arabia’s potential involvement in the last US election was about a half-trillion-dollar oil deal between Russia and ExxonMobil that had been blocked because of the sanctions against Russia.

What’s the first thing that happened under the now-infamous Paul Manafort? They changed the Republican platform to try to get rid of those sanctions. Then Trump appointed Rex Tillerson, the former head of ExxonMobil, as Secretary of State. Is that a coincidence?

It was the same players and the same motive and the same disingenuity.

More at https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/the-most-villainous-act-in-the-hist
ory-of-human-civilisation-tyler-prize-winner-michael-e-mann-speaks-out


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know is that he said that the swamp would be drained. Looks like a lot of 'em are being flushed out. I know people who've had a hardon for Roger Stone for decades.


Still... No Russia collusion though.

Remember we do have a boatload of posts here from the last two years we can refer to when you guys find yourself completely changing your tune about all of this a few months from now when the dust settles as a reminder of how you used to think before the media slowly changed focus.


Ask me how I know.

Better yet, I'll just tell you. I saw it all happen during the GWB administration already. Some of us have better memory than others though.


lol.... Christ.

Some of us here actually sung John McCain's praises and have said they long for the days of GWB. Too funny.

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And Still No Evidence.

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