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Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:45 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:53 PM
BRENDA
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out in a bit for my walk on a bright sunny day and this afternoon new hearing aides. 1pm is appointment. So later peeps.Are you in Pacific Time Zone? Mountain Time Zone?
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out in a bit for my walk on a bright sunny day and this afternoon new hearing aides. 1pm is appointment. So later peeps.
Friday, May 21, 2021 12:41 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Friday, May 21, 2021 1:44 AM
Friday, May 21, 2021 6:48 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I'm still trying to figure out the physics. If you look at a flowing system, the faster the flow (smaller the diameter), the less the sideways pressure. That gives airplane wings their lift, for example. But when the system becomes static (is plugged) all points are pressurized to the same pressure, no matter what the diameter, water being incompressible. OTOH just past the exit of a pipe, the wall pressure is zero, there being no walls. If the wall pressure where the walls are infinitely large(absent) is zero (other things at that point are holding the water together so that it doesn't explode in all directions at the exit of a pipe), then by analogy, the pressure on the walls should be smaller the larger the diameter, and higher the smaller the diameter. But then, if after you expand the pipe you narrow it again, that puts a crimp in the flow, leading it would seem to a pressurization of the bulbous area. I guess maybe the end result is ... is your narrower outlet a critical orifice compared to your inlet(pump)? If so, then your system is pressurized to the same pressure all the way through, even though it's flowing. But if not, and you have a headspace in your wider area, then your system is at atmospheric.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: With all your lies, bullshit, and trolling, sociopath SLOPPY, you haven't provided one honest answer to a simple yes/ no question. SLOPPY, has Trump EVER been CONVICTED of tax fraud in a court of law? Yes or no will do. Until then, you can keep slinging all the bullshit you want, you're still a sociopath, not an American, and can't comprehend English. SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll? Oh, btw, I really appreciate you replying to my posts! It gives me an excuse the keep posting the facts!
Friday, May 21, 2021 6:49 AM
Friday, May 21, 2021 10:18 AM
Friday, May 21, 2021 11:00 AM
Friday, May 21, 2021 1:25 PM
Friday, May 21, 2021 1:55 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out for my walk in a bit on a bright sunny day. Need to make sure I put in my hearing aides. This is basically a bill pay and grocery trip today. Need something for supper but not sure what. Just finished up some chicken legs. I will think of something. Long weekend up here and suppose to rain by Monday.
Friday, May 21, 2021 2:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The pump has gone off two times that I know of since the laundry was finished. Once at around 1:00AM, and again at 9:00AM. The cycles are now only 15 seconds compared to the 22 seconds before, but that's still a lot of water that wasn't being flushed out before the well was dug. It's not going to be easy to hear it anymore. First, because it's a lot less noisy than it used to be. The relief valve is lower and not hitting an aluminum sheet I had installed along the end of the well to amplify it. And second because, at least for the next week, I'll have the window A/C on and the very loud fan pushing that cold air downstairs. I was vaguely able to hear it at 1:00AM over the fan, but if I'm not actively listening for it I'm not going to notice it. I had turned the A/C off around 6:00AM because it got too cold so I had no problems hearing it at 9:00AM. This is good news. Even after 5 times of forcing it out until the pump sucked air before making the alterations, it's still going off an average of at least 3 times per day, allowing water that never would have been able to make its way into the well get there now. We're probably somewhere around 30 to 35 additional inches of water that has been removed from the well that was just sitting there before. (Or 34.9 to 40.7 gallons) Maybe more. It's nice knowing that as soon as water can get to it, it will be going where it needs to go instead of building up like a dam and making it go places that it shouldn't have been going. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Friday, May 21, 2021 3:34 PM
Friday, May 21, 2021 4:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out for my walk in a bit on a bright sunny day. Need to make sure I put in my hearing aides. This is basically a bill pay and grocery trip today. Need something for supper but not sure what. Just finished up some chicken legs. I will think of something. Long weekend up here and suppose to rain by Monday. Enjoy the nice sunny day! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Friday, May 21, 2021 4:48 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The pump has gone off two times that I know of since the laundry was finished. Once at around 1:00AM, and again at 9:00AM. The cycles are now only 15 seconds compared to the 22 seconds before, but that's still a lot of water that wasn't being flushed out before the well was dug. It's not going to be easy to hear it anymore. First, because it's a lot less noisy than it used to be. The relief valve is lower and not hitting an aluminum sheet I had installed along the end of the well to amplify it. And second because, at least for the next week, I'll have the window A/C on and the very loud fan pushing that cold air downstairs. I was vaguely able to hear it at 1:00AM over the fan, but if I'm not actively listening for it I'm not going to notice it. I had turned the A/C off around 6:00AM because it got too cold so I had no problems hearing it at 9:00AM. This is good news. Even after 5 times of forcing it out until the pump sucked air before making the alterations, it's still going off an average of at least 3 times per day, allowing water that never would have been able to make its way into the well get there now. We're probably somewhere around 30 to 35 additional inches of water that has been removed from the well that was just sitting there before. (Or 34.9 to 40.7 gallons) Maybe more. It's nice knowing that as soon as water can get to it, it will be going where it needs to go instead of building up like a dam and making it go places that it shouldn't have been going.
Friday, May 21, 2021 5:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: JSF, this just happened to be the first thing I grabbed off the internet. In our house, each bathroom (sink, shower/tub, and toilet) has its own vent stack, the kitchen (sink, dishwasher) has its own vent stack, and the laundry area - which is back to back with a bathroom, shares the bathroom vent stack. Quote:Plumbing Vent Distances & Routing Codes Plumbing vent distances, routing, clearances: This article gives recommended or allowable distances from plumbing vent to fixtures, distdances from plumbing vent to building features like chimneys, windows, roofs, walls. This article series includes definitions of plumbing vent terms, types of plumbing vents, plumbing vent size requirements, plumbing vent clearance distances to building roof, vertical walls, nearby windows, or plumbing vent distance to chimneys. We explain how plumbing vents work on buildings, why plumbing vent piping is needed, and what happens to the building drains when the vent piping is not working. We also provide an ARTICLE INDEX for this topic, or you can try the page top or bottom SEARCH BOX as a quick way to find information you need. Plumbing Vent System Distances & Routing Plumbing vent terminology sketch (C) Carson Dunlop Associates The basic plumbing vent terms are shown in the sketch. In these notes, the plumbing stack vents and other sketches included below are provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Plumbing-Vent-Distance-Codes.php
Quote:Plumbing Vent Distances & Routing Codes Plumbing vent distances, routing, clearances: This article gives recommended or allowable distances from plumbing vent to fixtures, distdances from plumbing vent to building features like chimneys, windows, roofs, walls. This article series includes definitions of plumbing vent terms, types of plumbing vents, plumbing vent size requirements, plumbing vent clearance distances to building roof, vertical walls, nearby windows, or plumbing vent distance to chimneys. We explain how plumbing vents work on buildings, why plumbing vent piping is needed, and what happens to the building drains when the vent piping is not working. We also provide an ARTICLE INDEX for this topic, or you can try the page top or bottom SEARCH BOX as a quick way to find information you need. Plumbing Vent System Distances & Routing Plumbing vent terminology sketch (C) Carson Dunlop Associates The basic plumbing vent terms are shown in the sketch. In these notes, the plumbing stack vents and other sketches included below are provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates
Friday, May 21, 2021 5:28 PM
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Friday, May 21, 2021 6:15 PM
Friday, May 21, 2021 6:19 PM
Friday, May 21, 2021 9:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Nice to know that the foundation is properly draining into the sump, but I think there may be more at play than the sump and pump depth.
Quote:During a rainstorm, over three days your pump handled something in the realm of 280 CUBIC FEET of water. That's 2,100 gallons! And it doesn't make a difference whether your foundation is being properly drained, because if it were that would only make the amount of water handled by your pump go up, not reduced. You need to make sure that your dirt is graded and tubes are properly installed to direct downspout and rainwater as far downhill from your house as you can manage. I believe that you're working on that item: You have the materials at-hand and are prepared to regrade and install. If all of that is accomplished and your pump is STILL handling excessive amounts of water after a rainstorm, then you need to be sure that water isn't being pumped out and just cycling back to your foundation thru additional breaks in your outflow pipe, especially ones within 20 ft of your house. How you do that is up to you, but it would need to be done. The amount of water pumped per cycle in calculated by: = Area* height = pi * radius squared * (hi water level- lo water level) = 3.1415 * (9.25*9.25) * (7"?) = cubic inches of water pumped divide by 1,728 to get cubic feet, and multiply by however many pump cycles you think adequately represent complete drainage of your foundation after a rainstorm (4 days- worth?)
Friday, May 21, 2021 9:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Jack, it sounds like the pump trigger level is far more effectively placed. It's so simple in concept, but getting there was so fraught in reality!
Quote:As far as I can tell, the little underground 'lake' your house foundation was sitting in is now a number of inches lower, and now at a depth below your cellar floor. That's about as good as it gets when it comes to the sump trigger/ inlet placement.
Quote:Another thing that's been helping though is the relative lack of rain. Until you get a heavy soaking rainstorm you won't know for sure whether or not you've fixed the foundation-water issues, or if the underground lake has simply flowed away downhill.
Quote:I think Signy has good ideas. You should grade the soil around your foundation away from the house. If you can 'harden' the grade (attractively-placed flat rocks?) so that as much water as possible runs right off before it has a chance to soak in, so much the better. And you need to make sure your gutter water and sump outflow are directed as far away downhill from the house as possible.
Quote:Oh, moles eat grubs. So do raccoons, skunks, and rodents. If your 'burrowing' problem is moles, getting rid of grubs is the fix. (If your 'burrowing' problem is gophers, voles, or ground squirrels, it's an entirely different story.)
Quote:Since grubs eat roots, once you get rid of the grass and plants immediately around your house, you'll get rid of the roots in that area, therefore the grubs in that area, and hence, the moles in that area. But most people want to get rid of moles while maintaining their lawn and its tender, tasty roots that grubs love.
Quote:Here are some fixes: https://homesteadandchill.com/kill-grubs-beneficial-nematodes/ https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-get-rid-of-grubs/
Quote:Anyway, I see the grade around your house in steps: collapse existing tunnels remove vegetation create a significant grade harden the slope
Friday, May 21, 2021 9:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Sounds like you are likely pumping about 4 or 5 gallons per pump cycle, with a float range of about 5". About 8 hours between, or maybe 4 hours, if you missed hearing one at 5am. Which is good productivity, at draining your foundation.
Quote:Sounds like the pump is now about 7 1/2" physically lower than the past 6 years. Pumps starts about 1" below the bottom of the inlet tube, and likely stops about 6" below the inlet tube.
Quote:After sucking the well dry 4 times the day before you left, the well refilled the full depth of about 13", and then went off at least once on your first night back (Wed), for 7". Then you sucked air about 5 times on Thurs, which you figure was 15-20 inches. So at least 35-40" have flowed into the well since you sucked air 4 times on Sunday before you took off. In a matter of 4 days. Not including the amount that was already pumped out 4 times on Sunday.
Quote:Ignoring the water from laundry, some of this is likely from condensate drainage, now that your A/C is running. Condensate is heaviest the first couple times you turn on the A/C, because the humidity has built up over the winter. When it cools down again in the coming days/weeks, you'll be able to get a good idea of pump cycles intervals from just purely drainage tile flow.
Quote:This is data that would be good to know, at this point in time: Go down to it, activate it until it almost sucks air, then wait 5 or 10 minutes - or until the water stops pouring into it from the inlet tube. Then activate the pump again, until it just starts to suck air. Then start the timer
Quote:After that 2nd manual activation, what is the surface level in the well after 1 minute? You can measure from the rim. Then, what is the level after 2 minutes following the sucking air. Then, what is the level after 5 minutes total? After 10 min total? after 15 min total?
Friday, May 21, 2021 11:29 PM
Friday, May 21, 2021 11:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Hey Brenda! I'm glad you had an enjoyable day!
Saturday, May 22, 2021 12:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, the day managed to be filled up with non-yardwork chores. Not that I'm avoiding yardwork or anything. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 1:10 AM
Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Hey Jack - 'grade' is the level of dirt. So rocks placed on top don't elevate the 'grade'. OTOH if you had a lot of flat rock embedded in the dirt, so the top of the rocks were at the level of the soil. and if there wasn't a lot of dirt showing in between the rocks, the rock surface would be at 'grade', and your 'grade' would be mitigated against substantial rain penetration.
Quote:As for a leaky hose bibb, I had a leaky one but I didn't have the time to fix it when I discovered it. So I attached a very, very short length of hose, that had a really good shut-off nozzle at the end. I kept the hose bibb turned off anyway, but in effect the hose nozzle became my water shut-off against the faucet drips.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?
Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:49 AM
Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is that Norfolk Island ("star") pine, which massively towers over one part of the yard and creates a deep dense unwelcoming shade because the branches droop so low to the ground. So one of the things I can do right away is prune them up so that ppl can walk underneath.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Hey Jack - 'grade' is the level of dirt. So rocks placed on top don't elevate the 'grade'. OTOH if you had a lot of flat rock embedded in the dirt, so the top of the rocks were at the level of the soil. and if there wasn't a lot of dirt showing in between the rocks, the rock surface would be at 'grade', and your 'grade' would be mitigated against substantial rain penetration. Yeah. That's kind of what I thought, but wasn't sure. Won't be a problem on the front/back and side of the house. But where that low slab in the sand pit for the shed at the end of the porch is, that's another issue. I do plan on putting some sort of stone on the edge of everything when I finish it off so I can mow around it. But that would probably look dumb in the hasta beds. I'd like to get some sort of covering for the dirt (not mulch that feeds the bugs I want to keep away from the house though!). But I don't want to do that until I'm fairly certain I've taken care of the moles though because as hard as it is to deal with them now I don't even want to know what it would be like if I couldn't even see their activitiy beneath gravel. Quote:As for a leaky hose bibb, I had a leaky one but I didn't have the time to fix it when I discovered it. So I attached a very, very short length of hose, that had a really good shut-off nozzle at the end. I kept the hose bibb turned off anyway, but in effect the hose nozzle became my water shut-off against the faucet drips.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Just saying hey! JSF!
Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: JSF, this just happened to be the first thing I grabbed off the internet. In our house, each bathroom (sink, shower/tub, and toilet) has its own vent stack, the kitchen (sink, dishwasher) has its own vent stack, and the laundry area - which is back to back with a bathroom, shares the bathroom vent stack. Quote:Plumbing Vent Distances & Routing Codes Plumbing vent distances, routing, clearances: This article gives recommended or allowable distances from plumbing vent to fixtures, distdances from plumbing vent to building features like chimneys, windows, roofs, walls. This article series includes definitions of plumbing vent terms, types of plumbing vents, plumbing vent size requirements, plumbing vent clearance distances to building roof, vertical walls, nearby windows, or plumbing vent distance to chimneys. We explain how plumbing vents work on buildings, why plumbing vent piping is needed, and what happens to the building drains when the vent piping is not working. We also provide an ARTICLE INDEX for this topic, or you can try the page top or bottom SEARCH BOX as a quick way to find information you need. Plumbing Vent System Distances & Routing Plumbing vent terminology sketch (C) Carson Dunlop Associates The basic plumbing vent terms are shown in the sketch. In these notes, the plumbing stack vents and other sketches included below are provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Plumbing-Vent-Distance-Codes.php Interesting. It talks about code, but not what code. An example specifies New Zealand. It appears that I have never lived in nor owned a house with plumbing to code. One build in 1964, and 2 built in the 1910s, others I don't recall build dates.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:55 PM
Saturday, May 22, 2021 5:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: It talks about code, but not what code. An example specifies New Zealand.
Saturday, May 22, 2021 7:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: OK, I think I understand the problem. Is there any part of the pipe that the hose bibb is on that sticks out from the siding?
Quote:Alternately, can you access the pipe from inside or under the house?
Quote:There are 'solder-less connections' compression fittings, that just use ordinary house tools. Perhaps there are similar fittings for hose bibbs. If there are, and you have naked pipe, you might be able to fix it by cutting off the bibb, and just dealing with the naked pipe. ... assuming you have a whole-house water shut-off.
Quote:OH! these might give you some ideas (formatted to not auto-load) https: // youtu.be/P_DACtwy5_M https: // youtu.be/cpeBuQEIeT8 https://www.amazon.com/Arrowhead-254CC-Compression-Hose-Bibb/dp/B00E0QB5VS (At the time I had to call in a real plumber to fix mine, since the screw head that held the handle in place was completely destroyed (not by me - it came that way) and the bibb was actually soldered onto the pipe. So I couldn't disassemble it to repair it. And since there were no compression-fit hose bibbs at the time, I couldn't just replace it.)
Saturday, May 22, 2021 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: If you want my advice: decide to visit at least 5 different stores (different chains), including local hardware stores like Ace, Hardware Hank, True Value, etc. Each of these places have faucet types which are not compatible with any other. If you already know how yours is assembled, look at each of these for similar types of part shapes and sizes. You might need to accept alterations, like from a square shaft with a nut on it to one with screw in it. You will likely need to just buy the whole unit, or maybe 2 different units, and disassemble them to get/use the parts you need. This is a royal PITA but it's the only effective way I've found to get it done.
Quote:I might be afraid to ask, but does this outside faucet also have an inside shut-off valve? One that should be turned off each winter so that freezing pipes do not burst and let all of your fresh water supply spray out of the house?
Quote:I would be willing to walk you through the process, but I don't think you'll listen. But you should try to check if there actually is a shut-off valve to isolate your main water supply pipe from your exterior faucets - there should be. If yes, it makes your job easier, and less urgent. If not, keep in mind that is something you should plan to do. If you cap off the line indoors, then the faucet would just be a decoration until the next owner deals with it. If you are taking the faucet out anyhow, then you already know that the siding action is ahead of you, so might as well check it out.
Sunday, May 23, 2021 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Laundry done, walk in and dishes done. Forgot to check the mail yesterday, so I did it today. Letter in box from BC Cancer and Breast Screening. It was just to inform me that my mammogram was clear (which I had sort of figured out from my doc just acknowledging that she had the report on Monday when I made an appointment. Also the tech said please come back in 2years). So, that is one less thing on my mind.
Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:19 AM
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Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:16 AM
Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Laundry done, walk in and dishes done. Forgot to check the mail yesterday, so I did it today. Letter in box from BC Cancer and Breast Screening. It was just to inform me that my mammogram was clear (which I had sort of figured out from my doc just acknowledging that she had the report on Monday when I made an appointment. Also the tech said please come back in 2years). So, that is one less thing on my mind. Good news, official! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:15 PM
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Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:52 PM
Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I know dreams are boring for everyone else but the dreamer ... but I had the strangest dream last night. I was touring SK with a bunch of SK acquaintances who were showing me the sights. And in my dream, the latest thing in SK was indoor drive-through shopping malls - genuine interior spaces, with mosaic-tiled floors, except more roomy, with lanes for cars ... where one could either stroll or drive ... complete with drive-through restaurants. We were strolling, but the occasional black-with-tinted-windows high-end sedan would mosey through. Anyway, we went to a very popular restaurant in that mall, that specialized in serving 'mystery food' - food that was one thing but made to be like another, like turkey made into beef-tasting hamburgers; but anyway, there was plenty of non-mystery white rice around. And in THAT particular mall there was some very atypical exposed piping rather high-up, which had become a 'feature', where the thing to do was the see if you could get one sneaker to wrap around it. So that section had been redesigned slightly to accommodate the sneaker-throwers. And once could purchase sneakers to try one's hand. So I was thinking - oh, this is just like a bola but with only one weight ... (which for some reason I knew how to use) ... as I was busy throwing the sneaker and watching it wrap around the pipe (impossible irl) my companions were happily chatting with each other and laughing trying to figure out how to do that ... ... where did all THAT come from?
Monday, May 24, 2021 3:54 AM
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