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Friday, January 29, 2021 11:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

GREAT!

My area - not so much. There was ~1.5" predicted, a bit over a half inch in my cachepot rain gauge, and ~1" at the Santa Fe Dam. So you flatlanders once again got more than the foothills.

STILL! I'm glad it wasn't a total bust and you and probably others got so much more!




How is this in relation to that "If it's yellow, let it mellow" situation from the 70's out there?

I'd imagine that technology has eased a little of the problem with water getting to the consumers?

It just seems like you're always so damn dry out there. At least I don't remember you ever talking about a good amount of rain since I've sobered up.


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Friday, January 29, 2021 11:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


A first for everything, and getting my taxes out the door before February is how I start off 2021.



I'm not going to say I always send them out on the deadline, but probably did it on the last day possible 90% of the time so far this lifetime.





Figured since other things already got in the way of other work I'd planned on doing, might as well just get that all done too.


Still a productive day overall.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:39 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Now is a lot worse than the 70's. 9 of 14 years have been drought years, with exceptionally low rainfall amounts, and no years with very high ones.


Roughly 85% of tap water in SoCal comes from water projects, either from the Colorado River aqueduct of from 2 aqueducts from NoCal.
https://angeles.sierraclub.org/los_angeles_depends_on_imported_water

And since virtually all of SoCal's water comes from elsewhere, drought in the water-supply areas

has a direct effect on SoCal tap water. At this time, many lakes and reservoirs that supply SoCal are deeply depleted.
https://www.kunc.org/2021-01-29/the-colorado-river-basins-worsening-dr
yness-in-five-numbers


Even though there's been a serious effort to reduce per capita water usage in SoCal, having available tap water doesn't mitigate drought's devastating effect on the environment (along with higher average temperatures). And that's why about a fifth of the Angeles National Forest - roughly a 15mi wide by 25mi long area - burned in a single fire last year.
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/maps/7152/

It's significant to me that even though the forest has a history of human habitation that goes back 8,000 years
https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/san-gabriel-mountains-national-monument
its existence is only just now threatened by recent drought and high temperatures.

There is some evidence that climate change is driving the west and southwest into a megadrought.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2020/04/17/Climate-change-to-blame-fo
r-megadrought-emerging-across-Western-US/5651587066418
/
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/16/megadrought-underway-in-califor
nia-american-west-new-study-finds
/
Historic ‘megadrought’ underway in California, American West, new study finds
Tree rings show that 2000-2018 is the driest 19-year period in centuries

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah... I think my comments about overpopulation are only going to be taken seriously when large portions of industrialized parts of the world start feeling the water pinch.

California would already be seriously feeling it if it weren't for the water projects and bottled water.

I found it odd that things looked worse now (outside of the home) but I never hear anything about water shortages in California today that were causing severe usage crackdowns. Thanks for clearing that up.




Oh... and if bottled water and its impact on the environment wasn't bad enough, google "Bottled Oxygen".

Yup... That's a thing in 2021.




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Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:51 AM

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Exciting...

Got some errands to run today, but I went down and looked at my doors and they're ready to scuff sand to move on to the next batch when I get to them. This batch is somewhere in the midway point of this prime job, and a look at my first batch of doors that I finished almost a week ago now show no signs of yellowing and bleedthrough with three coats applied.



Oh... and my friend is trying to talk me out of using color on the boxes. I told him he's got to come over after I get the boxes stripped and primed. I'll do a temporary install of all of the top doors to make sure I have them all lined up properly and he can help me brainstorm what I'm going to do if I have all white on the white tiles. At least there is a soffit above the cabs that can be a different color, and I'm probably going with a faux marble veneer countertop if I don't strip the veneer of the existing one and put ceramic tile down.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:56 AM

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Oh, I didn't mean you had to love La Bamaba.

I was just posting a rhetorical question. Dude just oozes charisma.


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No worries. I know he does. Which is the main reason I watch "Prodigal Son". He is a fiiiiiiine specimen of manhood.




I'm glad I never heard anything bad about the guy over the years. He just always seemed like the type of dude who would make a great friend.

I probably could count on one hand the people in the sports and entertainment industry I feel that way about.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 4:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Yeah... I think my comments about overpopulation are only going to be taken seriously when large portions of industrialized parts of the world start feeling the water pinch.

California would already be seriously feeling it if it weren't for the water projects and bottled water.

I found it odd that things looked worse now (outside of the home) but I never hear anything about water shortages in California today that were causing severe usage crackdowns. Thanks for clearing that up.

I forgot to mention - and it's a really BIG thing I forgot to mention - that 80% of California's water use (statewide average) goes not to green lawns, people flushing their toilets too often or taking luxurious showers, or aluminum smelting ... but to agriculture. Seriously, people grow RICE in California. So, if there are usage cutbacks to be made, it would be best to make them there.

Still, the lack of rain as I mentioned directly affects the natural environment. And even CentCal and NoCal are in deep drought. That's why you read about such gosh-awful fires in "wine country", or about 700-year old Sequoias being killed, or towns like Paradise being wiped off the map.




ETA: An interesting twist on the water wars. Water has always been a hostility-engendering issue in the arid west.


Citing climate change, LADWP ends free water deal for Long Valley ranchers and sparks anger among conservationists
https://news.yahoo.com/citing-climate-change-ladwp-ends-140007969.html
The LADWP has said the water giveaways have become an extravagance due to changes in the climate — specifically, less snowpack, shorter rainy seasons and periods of prolonged drought.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 4:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Nothing to do with such deep and serious questions ... as I've mentioned here or there, I pre-make batches of meals, divvy them up into 12 @ 2C(max) portions and freeze them. And one of the many reasons I do that is because I hate, hate, hate vegetables, and eating one of those meals is all the vegetable I'll have for the day. (Each portion I'm proud to say has a half-pound of vegetables weighed raw, so when I eat a meal I do get more than a token amount.)

I have a plain-ish pork and bean stew ... my comment on that is that when your ingredients are stellar you don't need a lot of extra 'stuff' to make it delicious. I have a very hearty and spicy beef and bean chili. I have the chicken, potato, onion, and bell pepper (and cheese) frittata.

So ... now what? Hmm. Maybe I'll make my seafood-tomato soup?

Signy, I know you're an EXCELLENT cook and nutritionist - any suggestions?


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Yeah... I think my comments about overpopulation are only going to be taken seriously when large portions of industrialized parts of the world start feeling the water pinch.

California would already be seriously feeling it if it weren't for the water projects and bottled water.

I found it odd that things looked worse now (outside of the home) but I never hear anything about water shortages in California today that were causing severe usage crackdowns. Thanks for clearing that up.

I forgot to mention - and it's a really BIG thing I forgot to mention - that 80% of California's water use (statewide average) goes not to green lawns, people flushing their toilets too often or taking luxurious showers, or aluminum smelting ... but to agriculture. Seriously, people grow RICE in California. So, if there are usage cutbacks to be made, it would be best to make them there.

Still, the lack of rain as I mentioned directly affects the natural environment. And even CentCal and NoCal are in deep drought. That's why you read about such gosh-awful fires in "wine country", or about 700-year old Sequoias being killed, or towns like Paradise being wiped off the map.



ETA: An interesting twist on the water wars. Water has always been a hostility-engendering issue in the arid west.
Citing climate change, LADWP ends free water deal for Long Valley ranchers and sparks anger among conservationists
https://news.yahoo.com/citing-climate-change-ladwp-ends-140007969.html
The LADWP has said the water giveaways have become an extravagance due to changes in the climate — specifically, less snowpack, shorter rainy seasons and periods of prolonged drought.




Wow... 80% goes to growing shit in California that doesn't need to be grown in California?

That has to be some sort of BS "green" thing, right? Think of all the oil that's not used transporting stuff when it's home grown.

Nevermind the fact that we import billions of bottles of drinking water every year, or the fact that we're depleting other state's sources of natural water, because GREEN!

lol... California is just the worst.

My condolences Keeks.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:51 PM

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Every door for the upper cabinets is now primed and scuff sanded, ready for paint.

Got round three of things to prime started today. Going with 3 doors and 3 shelves this time.

But then it occured to me that since the shelves are only getting 2 coats before I put down wood putty everywhere, I was actually going to run out of things to do if I didn't prep more.

So I just beat the huge snow storm we're going to have and I managed to strip 4 of the lazy susan discs and the last shelf that needed stripping. That will give me a few days to let the rest of that stripping agent evaporate off of them before I sand them down for priming.


May or may not go back to sanding down the crown molding by hand at some point tonight. Taking a break now though, and warming up. Freakin' freezing outside today... and I'll probably have a foot of snow that needs to be removed tomorrow. This storm came out of nowhere, and I don't think they're joking this time.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:40 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh, I didn't mean you had to love La Bamaba.

I was just posting a rhetorical question. Dude just oozes charisma.


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No worries. I know he does. Which is the main reason I watch "Prodigal Son". He is a fiiiiiiine specimen of manhood.




I'm glad I never heard anything bad about the guy over the years. He just always seemed like the type of dude who would make a great friend.

I probably could count on one hand the people in the sports and entertainment industry I feel that way about.


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Me too. He really seems to have his head on straight which is a good thing.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:44 PM

BRENDA


Laundry done for another 2 weeks and my walk in as well. It was raining when I was out then stopped. As of 3:43pm Pacific time it is raining AGAIN.

Oh, I hope Spring is drier.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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That has to be some sort of BS "green" thing, right?
Not "green" thing. This isn't new.

Water rights laws were written back in the days before the horse and buggy even became possible (before there were roads). And people who have the earliest claims are the ones with the most inalienable legal water rights, even if those claims were established by fraud, like Los Angeles City's water rights in Long Valley, Mono County, CA.

So newer concerns - habitat, species extinction, climate change (drought and fire), population growth, water conservation - take a backseat to archaic laws.

And ... big agriculture = big business = big money. And big money has a vested interest in keeping the laws the same.

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Since the snowpack has been failing as a water reservoir - either due to overall lack of precipitation, or due to the precipitation falling as rain rather than snow - I propose the reintroduction of beavers into the environment, as eager little dam-builders. Their dams not only hold back the water to trickle down over time keeping the water supply steady, they prevent floods downstream, and water the natural environment in the vicinity.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I didn't mean an ACTUAL green thing. I meant a BS "green" thing.

A pointless endeavor that not only doesn't save the environment but does greater long term harm to it. But on the face it looks like a great thing is being done and mama nature is being saved thanks to California Democrats.

Yanno. Something to make the low IQ Twitter idiots retweet endlessly.



I think there's got to be something to that. Otherwise, you'd need a bit more info getting from A to B when correlating ancient water claims to 80% of California's water usage going to grow crops that shouldn't be grown there and would be cheaper and better for the environment if they were grown in climates that they're supposed to grow in.


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Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Wow... 80% goes to growing shit in California that doesn't need to be grown in California?

That has to be some sort of BS "green" thing, right? Think of all the oil that's not used transporting stuff when it's home grown.

Nevermind the fact that we import billions of bottles of drinking water every year, or the fact that we're depleting other state's sources of natural water, because GREEN!

Not following you, JACK. Nobody is arguing for growing rice in California because it's "green". It's neither a "green" argument nor a BS "green" argument ... it's not an argument at all.

Growing rice in California is a sad outcome of a hodge-podge of archaic water-rights laws that BIG MONEY is invested in keeping the same .... because under those laws they get lots of free water with which to do to do whatever they want. And that includes growing high-value crops that need a lot of water, like rice and cotton.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:45 PM

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Because that makes sense.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 1:39 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I didn't mean an ACTUAL green thing. I meant a BS "green" thing.

A pointless endeavor that not only doesn't save the environment but does greater long term harm to it. But on the face it looks like a great thing is being done and mama nature is being saved thanks to California Democrats.

Yanno. Something to make the low IQ Twitter idiots retweet endlessly.



I think there's got to be something to that. Otherwise, you'd need a bit more info getting from A to B when correlating ancient water claims to 80% of California's water usage going to grow crops that shouldn't be grown there and would be cheaper and better for the environment if they were grown in climates that they're supposed to grow in.

It's the way it is in most western states. As Mark Twain once said: "Whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting over"

When white people first settled CA, anyone who lived near a river, creek, or stream had automatic rights to that water. After than, additional rights were added to various historic categories as aquifers were discovered under someone's land. So it's a complicated mess which means that the original water-rights holders got to pass on or sell their rights to others, but overall those rights passed on to, or were retained by, agriculture. Rice was grown in CA for just over a hundred years, long before the idea of "green" existed.

As I understand it, Washington State handles water right differently. They start out with the idea that all water rights belong to the state, which allocates the rights according to some committee or board.

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So, not trying to be being a beeotch, but Jack, I found your posts incoherent - about as incoherent as your drunk-postings.

And I'm concerned you're pickling your brain and liver too heavily with various solvents.

I strongly suggest you take a week off at least, and ventilate your attic to indirectly breeze out your house.





Here are they ways you're being exposed: You're getting them on your skin in liquid form, you're breathing the concentrated vapors by working right over them, and you're absorbing the vapors 24/7 through your skin and lungs because they're all through your house.

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 8:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My posts weren't incoherent.

My brilliance just isn't easily picked up on sometimes. I'm connecting A to Z where most people struggle to get from A to B.

I dunno. It's not like I don't talk to people on the phone every day and nobody else has said that I sound dumb.

Frem tried explaining this to other people long, long ago. He got me. I miss that dude. My biggest regret here was putting myself on his shit list.



I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

I might have been wrong in that assumption, but the idea itself seems pretty high concept to me and easy to figure out.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:05 AM

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Woke up to a winter hellscape. Seems that the meteorologists weren't pranking us this time.

I might not plow it today. Winds are supposed to be pretty fierce all day long, and there's still another 1 to 3 inches predicted until after dark tonight.

I'm all stocked up and don't need to go anywhere today. Maybe I'll just take care of it on Monday.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ugggggghhh... Nearly two and a half hours outside taking care of the snow even with the snowblower. And it's still snowing outside.

Hopefully that's the last of it for a while, but February....

:(



Going to be a super late start to my painting regime today if I start after a break. I'll have to weigh that one out. I like having 24 hours in between shifts and flipping the stuff over, but I really don't want to lose a day either.

I had planned on doing that first before going outside, but when I saw how bad it already was and how hard it was still snowing I thought better of it.

Probably not a bad idea since an inch of snow fell while I was using the snow blower.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My posts weren't incoherent.

My brilliance just isn't easily picked up on sometimes. I'm connecting A to Z where most people struggle to get from A to B.

I dunno. It's not like I don't talk to people on the phone every day and nobody else has said that I sound dumb.

Frem tried explaining this to other people long, long ago. He got me. I miss that dude. My biggest regret here was putting myself on his shit list.



I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

I might have been wrong in that assumption, but the idea itself seems pretty high concept to me and easy to figure out.


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SIX, large vested interests have historically-based water rights. Those happened to be ranches and, later on, agriculture when water was discovered underground. Changing those rights and making water more expensive for growing water-thirsty crops like rice, cotton, alfalfa would mean upsetting many MANY wealthy constituents and EVERYBODY who knows anything about the environment knows it's a clusterfucked situation.

NOBODY who has any interest in the environment has made any claims whatsoever that growing rice in the Delta or alfalfa in Imperial Valley is "green" in any way. Environmentalists are usually either pushing to change California's water practices or working to mitigate the damage, or both. Like, for example, ensuring that enough water is reserved to allow continued flow thru CA rivers to preserve salmon spawning and other riparian species.

BTW it's not like saving water in agriculture would save the trees in the Sierras. We don't have a forest-watering program. The only thing that would help the forest would be better forest management. And maybe beavers.

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:11 PM

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Rain, rain, rain. Good thing I don't need to go out today. But more rain tomorrow as I understand. Oh yay.

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My posts weren't incoherent.

My brilliance just isn't easily picked up on sometimes. I'm connecting A to Z where most people struggle to get from A to B.

I dunno. It's not like I don't talk to people on the phone every day and nobody else has said that I sound dumb.

Frem tried explaining this to other people long, long ago. He got me. I miss that dude. My biggest regret here was putting myself on his shit list.



I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

I might have been wrong in that assumption, but the idea itself seems pretty high concept to me and easy to figure out.


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SIX, large vested interests have historically-based water rights. Those happened to be ranches and, later on, agriculture when water was discovered underground. Changing those rights and making water more expensive for growing water-thirsty crops like rice, cotton, alfalfa would mean upsetting many MANY wealthy constituents and EVERYBODY who knows anything about the environment knows it's a clusterfucked situation.

NOBODY who has any interest in the environment has made any claims whatsoever that growing rice in the Delta or alfalfa in Imperial Valley is "green" in any way. Environmentalists are usually either pushing to change California's water practices or working to mitigate the damage, or both. Like, for example, ensuring that enough water is reserved to allow continued flow thru CA rivers to preserve salmon spawning and other riparian species.

BTW it's not like saving water in agriculture would save the trees in the Sierras. We don't have a forest-watering program. The only thing that would help the forest would be better forest management. And maybe beavers.

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You're still not getting my point.

Like, at all.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.
Well - ahem! FIRST OF ALL not ***ALL*** crops grown in California are rice and cotton or other water-thirsty crops. There's plenty of dry-land farming and drought-tolerant crops and water-wise agriculture going on.


SECOND OF ALL - do people like their tomatoes and lettuce and other fresh vegetables in winter? Because without that agriculture, people in the rest of the county would be stuck with canned, frozen, fermented (sauerkraut, pickles), dried (not a big component in US dietary staples), or things that keep a long, long time in cool storage, like potatoes and turnips, and uh, turnips and potatoes. And do people like their citrus and avocados and other warm-weather-only crops? Because without that agriculture you'd not have that at all, except for imports. And the reason why these things are grown in California is because there's a BIG market for them. (And btw, I would like things to be otherwise. I'm just pointing out the facts as they exist.)


THIRD - literally NO ONE is making the argument that growing rice in California is green or 'green'. All the arguments are being made by water-rights holders, and they consist of legalistic ones: I have water rights by law and you can't legally take them from me, no matter what I do with them. Even if I squander them on rice. Even if I cause the land to sink from over-drawing the water table. Even if salt-water intrusion ruins your wells. Even if I drive species to extinction. My rights. End of story.


FOURTH - water rights laws and water-rights holdings in California (and elsewhere in the west), go back over a century. For the most part, across the west, water rights were granted very similarly to gold- or silver-mine claims. Once the property was deeded to you, you owned the water. (And once you registered your mine claim, you owned the mine.) And those archaic and destructive laws remain today because BIG MONEY wants to keep them that way.


And, as SIGNY pointed out - saving tapwater/ irrigationwater isn't going to keep the forests from burning. Once that rain and snow leave the mountains and enter the lakes, it's completely unavailable to the forests.

But both problems are being driven by the same causes. Widespread drought and high temperatures impacts tapwater/ irrgiation water availability. Widespread drought and high temperatures make the forests burn. Both problems share the same causes.

One does not cause the other.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 8:49 PM

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You're still missing my point too, Kiki.

Let me try my best to summarize it in one or two sentences....


For anybody who doesn't live in California and know about all your freaky deaky water deals, everybody else would just assume that the reason that 80% of your water used in the state is on crops that don't naturally grow there (much of that water taken from other states) is just to satisfy some bullshit laws made by your insane Democrat leaders to seem green on the surface, even if those laws were 10 times as destructive to the environment beneath the surface.

This is what the rest of the country thinks about California. If you don't live in California or a few Urban centers scattered throughout the country, you hope California falls into the fekkin ocean.

No offense.


I hope it was clear that time. You're reading far too much into this.




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OK, I got it this time SIX.

Just as an interesting sideways note, the water that's spread across CA cropland evaporates, gets lofted up, and rains down on Colorado.

I guess some of it comes back to us in our allotment of Colorado River water.

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So, helped hubby in the garage yesterday, the day before spent the WHOLE day in the kitchen butchering chickens, making a big batch of green salsa for freezing (I think you all would like it, it's about 8 cups of mostly jalapeno peppers seeded, a whole big bunch of cilantro, juice of two limes, 10 cloves of garlic, a teaspoon of salt, and a small onion, blenderized ... tastes great on Mexican and Indian food), cooking chicken carcasses to make broth and dog food, and roasting a big picnic roast for bbq pork (one meal) and pork satay (another meal)

Today was all about wrestling with our cable company. We had asked them to stop our cable TV service mid November. I know they bill ahead so I was not surprised to see it on our Dec bill, but might unhappy to see they were STILL billing us in January! So they finally ended our TV service, but also shut off our internet ... grrrr.... fortunately not our phone, so one more call to get service restored. Also sweeping and vacuuming and mail sorting. Tomorrow dusting and more garage work.

One of these days, yardwork.


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Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:16 PM

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OK, I got it this time SIX.

Just as an interesting sideways note, the water that's spread across CA cropland evaporates, gets lofted up, and rains down on Colorado.

I guess some of it comes back to us in our allotment of Colorado River water.

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They say that brevity is the heat of wit...

Brevity ain't my style.

I probably made that much more complicated than it had to be, and I was certainly being posed with arguments I wasn't even trying to make.




I was actually likening it to all the idiots on twitter who scream about going green, but do it from their brand new iPhone that they replace every year, which was made by 12 year old Chinese kids who work 80 hours a week for a quarter a day and punch out only to choke on all of the pollution that is 10 times worse than L.A.'s worst day in the 80's.

Though it apparently turns out that your water situation has nothing at all to do with anybody going green, it certainly seems like something that California Democrats would push even if they knew full well that they were actually making the long term situation much, much worse for everyone just to score some immediate political capital.




I like Beavers. I could probably use them around here too during the spring. Let's bring back Beavers.




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So, helped hubby in the garage yesterday, the day before spent the WHOLE day in the kitchen butchering chickens, making a big batch of green salsa for freezing (I think you all would like it, it's about 8 cups of mostly jalapeno peppers seeded, a whole big bunch of cilantro, juice of two limes, 10 cloves of garlic, a teaspoon of salt, and a small onion, blenderized ... tastes great on Mexican and Indian food), cooking chicken carcasses to make broth and dog food, and roasting a big picnic roast for bbq pork (one meal) and pork satay (another meal)

Today was all about wrestling with our cable company. We had asked them to stop our cable TV service mid November. I know they bill ahead so I was not surprised to see it on our Dec bill, but might unhappy to see they were STILL billing us in January! So they finally ended our TV service, but also shut off our internet ... grrrr.... fortunately not our phone, so one more call to get service restored. Also sweeping and vacuuming and mail sorting. Tomorrow dusting and more garage work.

One of these days, yardwork.


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You got more done on your end than I did.

2 1/2 hours dealing with snow and in some parts it doesn't even look like I did anything at all after the snow drifts and the fact that it's STILL FREAKING SNOWING.

So much for 8 to 12 inches. If we didn't get 16, I sure did with all the drifting in my location. Probably got 3 tons of snow on my roof right now. My poor roof....



First day since I started working on the kitchen that I neglected my paint shift. Going to try real hard not letting it happen again.


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Monday, February 1, 2021 4:06 AM

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Is this heavy wet snow? Or the light fluffy kind?

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Heavy/wet. My blower managed it, but even on the lowest speed out of 5, I had to just go a little at a time, otherwise I'd have to pull it back and do it again because I'd start "climbing" the snow. It was over a foot tall by the time I'd started, but I've breezed through 12" of snow with this thing before.

Looks like it finally stopped sometime last night. Except for a pathway in the back to the garage I don't think I'll shovel or blow again. It's a few new inches, but usually I wouldn't even go out for only a few inches. I actually cleared the path for the postman in the front too, which I usually don't do. But it was up to your crotch in some spots because of drifting and expecting to have my mail delivered in that would just be a dick move.


Forecast took a serious tumble in temperature now too. We're not seeing any days in the 40's now until late February. The warmest day in the 10 day forecast is Thursday when we're going to get snow and a "wintery mix", but then the bottom drops out and it's going to be a high of 4 degrees on Superbowl Sunday.

Gross.

Hopefully at least the sun pops out and helps melt some of that snow off my roof since the temperatures themselves wont' help out for another month.

But the good news is, I still have a roof.



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SIX, you have my sympathy!

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Monday, February 1, 2021 1:44 PM

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Rain.

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It's typical this type of year. Never stops sucking though.

I'm just more sensitive to the heavy snow because of previous structural damage, most of which I've shored up, but the finished attic is going to drive me nuts until I start tearing a few things apart and assessing the damage.



Got my primer shift done today, then I primed all the crown molding.

It's still early. I think I'm going to possibly start putting the new "safe" stripping agent in some of the cabinets.

I'm going to have to read the directions though. I'm going to assume that they'll need a good vacuum and maybe even a TSP wash before I put any of this new stuff down. The old stuff it didn't matter. That stuff removed everything in 20 minutes.


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Monday, February 1, 2021 8:19 PM

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Sis in upstate NY says only a few inches expected, but PA is predicted to get slammed.

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Didn't manage to get to the dusting today because I was busy helping router and sand the bedframe, and put an experimental coat of wax on some of it. Also helped vacuum and sweep up after the routing and sanding, and by then it was time to start dinner.

If this were my bedframe, I would have chosen something darker than poplar/ spalted poplar. I would have preferred a skirt on the bed which would allow easier leg attachment instead of the finger-jointed legs, and I would have chosen tung oil instead of wax. But this is not my bedframe, it is dear daughter's and she gets to make her choices, just like v her room is painted multicolor stripes.

Bedframe is looking awesome. Hubby dues amazing work.

But for me, this was a bad, bad pain day. Not only did all of my joints hurt, but everything that I picked up felt like lead. Even my ribs hurt. It took two glasses of wine to get me to the point where I didn't care if I hurt, so I could cook dinner.


Don't get the idea that dear daughter wasn't helping. She helped with sanding and then stripped the beds and started the laundry. It was just a sucky day for me.

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Monday, February 1, 2021 11:05 PM

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Sorry to hear about the pain. Been hurting over here myself too. I hope it's just the weather.

:(

Are you restoring that bed or are you making it from scratch? That's awesome either way. I'd love to be able to be done with the major projects so I could do stuff like that someday.



That new stripping agent is worthless. Put it up 3 hours ago and it's all dry and caked on. Will probably take twice as long to remove it now than not doing anything would have.

They claim it's "low odor" too, and it smells like Cancer in a bucket.

Taking that bullshit back ASAP.


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Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:32 AM

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Well it kind of worked, somewhat...

I couldn't take it anymore. I wasn't going to wait until tomorrow to deal with the stuff. Just because it's "safe" and "green", doesn't mean it doesn't stink like hell and make you wonder exactly what you're breathing in.

It took two full hours to scrape it out of one of the short and double wide cabinets.

Assuming I can at least sand it a little bit, I think it will end up being as paintable as the doors, but it's nowhere near as good as stripping with the stuff that you can't buy on the market anymore. The bucket says it's "ready" in 1 hour, but then also says that you can leave it on for 1 to 3 days if you're doing it inside. But then it also says not to let it dry out, and it was already quite dried out on more than half the surface before I scraped. I don't know if I could have scraped at all if I waited until tomorrow morning.

There's little humidity in the air right now because of the heat being on all the time, so I'm sure that's not helping.

It also seems to have completely avoided doing anything about any residual gunk from the ancient contact paper that was in that cabinet. Fortunately, that was the only cabinet up top with that paper in there. The other two that had it were on either side of the sink on the bottom. Those are already going to be difficult cabinets to work on because of how deep they are, but at least I can do them on the ground and not standing on a ladder for two hours.

I'm going to give one or two more cabs a shot before I take the stuff back.

Next one I'm going to start earlier than 7PM and I'll make sure to give it an occasional spritz of water instead of just letting it dry for 3 hours straight.




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Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:17 AM

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My brother is well on his way to full blown alcoholism again. I've known for about a year that he would drink a few beers on occasion, but any attempts to try to talk him out of it were met with little success. He was right about two things... he wasn't trying to hide anything this time, and he wasn't causing any problems IRL or online this time and seemed to be handling it since he was only drinking a few beers every now and then and staying away from the hard liquor. He's also an adult, and I'm not his daddy.

In the last 10 or so days, I broke my own rule I imposed on him that I will not talk to him while he's drinking. I don't mean to enable him, but with his only transportation being ebikes that can't be ridden during the dead of winter, and all of his social outlets including church being shut down indefinitely, he's pretty fucked up.

But last night was it for me. I missed his early call because I was in the middle of working. Called him back later and he didn't answer and left me a VM when I was back working and he clearly sounded shitty. I shouldn't have called him back, but I did. By the time I reached him he was annihilated. I asked him "are you alright? You don't sound good." And he said something along the lines of "yeah, well that's just the way things go". If he's drinking beer to get that drunk, he's drinking around the levels I used to drink. I think he's back to the vodka.



Now I'm pretty sure I know why he doesn't want to come to my house for a few weeks this spring/summer. He knows good goddamned well he's not going to be drinking while he's here.


I'm going to call him early today. I'm not going to preach to him. I'm just going to let him know never to call me again when he's drinking and that if I happen to call him up while he's even had a single sip of anything not to answer the phone.

There's nothing I can do for somebody who doesn't want to help themselves, and I have no interest in talking to him if he's going to be doing that.


It looks as though Covid is claiming another victim.


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Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:34 PM

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More rain but things to do.

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Tuesday, February 2, 2021 5:19 PM

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Scuff sand/primer shift done. 2nd coat of primer on crown molding is the last coat that will need, which is good since I need that table tomorrow to sand the next round of stuff I stripped.

Stripping agent applied to both the 2nd double-wide cab above the stove/mic and in one of the two lazy susans.

I was considering doing three today to finish all of the cabs to the left of my sink, but it took two hours just to strip one cabinet, and I think that lazy susan might take three. I think 5 more hours of work tonight is enough for one day.

Just waiting a while for it to do its thing now. Keeping it wet on occasion this time so I can keep it up longer before taking it off.


That stuff smells SOOOOOO BAD.


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More rain but things to do.

It's just not right.

While you're hoping for a dry spell, in my area we're 4 1/3 inches behind in rain so far this year, and no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.


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My brother is well on his way to full blown alcoholism again. I've known for about a year that he would drink a few beers on occasion, but any attempts to try to talk him out of it were met with little success. He was right about two things... he wasn't trying to hide anything this time, and he wasn't causing any problems IRL or online this time and seemed to be handling it since he was only drinking a few beers every now and then and staying away from the hard liquor. He's also an adult, and I'm not his daddy.

In the last 10 or so days, I broke my own rule I imposed on him that I will not talk to him while he's drinking. I don't mean to enable him, but with his only transportation being ebikes that can't be ridden during the dead of winter, and all of his social outlets including church being shut down indefinitely, he's pretty fucked up.

But last night was it for me. I missed his early call because I was in the middle of working. Called him back later and he didn't answer and left me a VM when I was back working and he clearly sounded shitty. I shouldn't have called him back, but I did. By the time I reached him he was annihilated. I asked him "are you alright? You don't sound good." And he said something along the lines of "yeah, well that's just the way things go". If he's drinking beer to get that drunk, he's drinking around the levels I used to drink. I think he's back to the vodka.



Now I'm pretty sure I know why he doesn't want to come to my house for a few weeks this spring/summer. He knows good goddamned well he's not going to be drinking while he's here.


I'm going to call him early today. I'm not going to preach to him. I'm just going to let him know never to call me again when he's drinking and that if I happen to call him up while he's even had a single sip of anything not to answer the phone.

There's nothing I can do for somebody who doesn't want to help themselves, and I have no interest in talking to him if he's going to be doing that.


It looks as though Covid is claiming another victim.


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I'm sorry to hear that, SIX. I guess telephone calls aren't hacking it for him. It's too bad that they locked down activities for people who weren't at high risk of disease.

But if they had made N95s available to everyone, this would all have been moot.

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Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:54 PM

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It's not my problem. If he's going to become a Covid statistic after my old man spent nearly a decade and almost risked his marriage getting him sober and getting him set up for life on SSDI, there's nothing I can do about it. His fekkin pity me attitude has been grating on my nerves since April and I've had it. I'm not going to have the same damn conversation with somebody every single day and I'll be damned if I'm going to have it while he's drinking on top of it.

I like where he lives though. Hopefully he's still alive and not a complete drunk whenever I make it down there. We won't have anything to talk about if he's boozing it up every day.



Got my two cabinets stripped. Never again will I do two in one day. I'm so glad I didn't prep three or I'd be dead by the end of the night.


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More rain but things to do.

It's just not right.

While you're hoping for a dry spell, in my area we're 4 1/3 inches behind in rain so far this year, and no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.




Sorry to hear that Kiki. We might be getting a bit of dry this week then back into the rain.

Just a soggy start to February though ground hog didn't see his shadow so here's hoping to an early Spring for my corner of the world and some dry.

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More rain but things to do.

It's just not right.

While you're hoping for a dry spell, in my area we're 4 1/3 inches behind in rain so far this year, and no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.




If the same trend happens 7 years in a row, I'm going to have even more rain this year than last year. Maybe this is the year that I actually take water in the basement from the water outside rising above my foundation.

If I could ship it all to you I would Kiki.


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Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:47 AM

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Ugggggghhhh....

1 to 2 inches turned into 3 to 4 inches and is now 3 to 6 inches for tomorrow. I should really just stop looking and just assume the worst for the next month. The lows dipped even lower too. Looks like we'll have 3 nights in a row below zero, with one of them in the double digits negative.



Having a late start today. Trying to strip two cabinets was a mistake I'm paying for now. 5 or so hours doing various Captain Morgan poses on a step ladder and the countertop while hotboxing fumes with my head stuck in a cabinet full of them from a "safe" chemical is not my idea of a good time.

I won't be doing two a day again for sure, but if I had to do last night over again I would have done the regular cabinets on either side of the lazy susan. Super not looking forward to having to do the 2nd one in the near future.

As much as I'd like to have all of the cabinets to the left of the sink stripped, I think I'm downscaling my expectations for the day. I'll get my painting shift done, sand the crown molding that doesn't need a third coat, and then sand at least the three shelves/discs that I'll need to swap in the rotation tomorrow since the shelves are only getting two coats of primer on either side before I break out the wood putty.


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Bright sunny day here and things to do. Later peeps.

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Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:18 PM

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Primer shift done, and crown molding scuff sanded, wiped down and ready for paint. I'm just going to go ahead and put the third coat of primer on the 3 shelves in this shift since they don't need any repairs like the ones from the last few batches do.

The lazy Susan discs actually appear to sand very well using the sanding sponges around the edges. I wasn't sure it would be very easy since the tops have a lip around the edge and a lot of patina had built up around the inside perimeter on the tops. Bottoms and edges will be easy to sand down.

Should have plenty to keep the prime shifts going, which is a good thing because after tomorrow's snow day it's just going to be too cold to even think about stripping the last of the things I need to strip in the garage for another week.



The cabinets I did last night turned out better than I thought they would. They're a lot lighter than they were when I wrapped up last night. I had sprayed a lot of water in there in an attempt to try to keep the stuff from drying out completely before I got to the 2nd cabinet, so that makes sense.

It won't be an easy job sanding inside of these lazy susan units, but at least I think it won't be gumming up the paper. Sanding the other cabinets should be much easier.


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