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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:25 PM

BRENDA


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Saw my boss' son and his wife while I was out today. They must have been at the house. Who knows maybe I'll get a call from my boss.

How do you get along with them? I know you've posted about them, but for the life of me I don't remember what.



I don't remember what I've said about her son or the daughter-in-law. Think I might have said that I felt sorry for the girl dealing with my boss and her husband.
I've not really spoken to the young woman and I've not really spoken to the son since they've been here. He's always seemed okay to me but I don't cotton to missionary work which is what he does and how he met his wife.

They saw me and he called my name and they waved at me. We didn't talk as they were running for transit.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:30 PM

BRENDA


Had an odd Tuesday morning. It started with me walking out of my apartment door with my pj top on and forgetting my medical alert necklace. So when I realized what I was doing I hot footed it back in, changed and grabbed my medical alert.

I'd just fixed my medical alert necklace to. The circle attaching the medal to the necklace part was coming loose. Had to get my pliers and squish the circle so the medal wouldn't fall off. I admit to having a bad habit of pulling on it.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:59 PM

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Interestingly, it's not so much in the news here - not in the LATimes or other local radio or TV that I track.



Huh. You'd think that would be big news down there.



If it's not virus related, riot related or election related, it's not on any news channels in the US right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 12:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've had mornings like that. I FEEL awake and OK but in reality I'm all discombobulated and scattered.

Often times the next day or the day after I'll find things that I did while I thought I was doing OK - and - wonder - what the hell was I thinking? How in god's name did I not notice that?

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:10 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've had mornings like that. I FEEL awake and OK but in reality I'm all discombobulated and scattered.

Often times the next day or the day after I'll find things that I did while I thought I was doing OK - and - wonder - what the hell was I thinking? How in god's name did I not notice that?



I did it one day too last week. That time I got into the elevator pushed the button for the lobby, looked down and realized the same thing. PJ top and no medical alert.

Brain is taking a holiday and forgetting the rest of me.

Least I am remembering before I actually step out of the building.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:36 AM

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I can't tell you the number of times I found something that I had put down/put away and wondered Why the hell did I put that HERE??. Worse, when hubby and daughter insist that I asked for something ... like, ask for a particular movie to be recorded and not only can't I remember doing any such thing, I can't even imagine why I might have.

My only excuse is that I just got off statins. That, plus I have a terrible memory!

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:21 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


OK, speaking of a memory like a goldfish ... so as I'm scanning the online 'front page' of various publications, I'll often come across something that's not what I'm focused on but seems interesting... but since I don't want to derail myself I'll keep scrolling to the bottom of the page, thinking I'll catch it on the way back up. So I scroll back up, scroll back up, scroll back up ... get to the top of the page ... hmmm. I must have missed it. Scroll down to the bottom. Scroll up to the top.

Well dang.


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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:25 PM

BRENDA


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I can't tell you the number of times I found something that I had put down/put away and wondered Why the hell did I put that HERE??. Worse, when hubby and daughter insist that I asked for something ... like, ask for a particular movie to be recorded and not only can't I remember doing any such thing, I can't even imagine why I might have.

My only excuse is that I just got off statins. That, plus I have a terrible memory!

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I had a great memory when I was a kid and into high school. Anything my mum needed she would just ask me and I could give her the answer.

I know my brain doesn't always work perfectly anymore since the brain tumour and now add my getting older. Oy!

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:27 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
OK, speaking of a memory like a goldfish ... so as I'm scanning the online 'front page' of various publications, I'll often come across something that's not what I'm focused on but seems interesting... but since I don't want to derail myself I'll keep scrolling to the bottom of the page, thinking I'll catch it on the way back up. So I scroll back up, scroll back up, scroll back up ... get to the top of the page ... hmmm. I must have missed it. Scroll down to the bottom. Scroll up to the top.

Well dang.




Yup, Kiki. Been there and done that too. That gets really frustrating. I hate when that happens.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:28 PM

BRENDA


Going to break in my new bamboo steamer tonight. Got a nice, small piece of salmon at the grocery store today and I have some veg to go with it.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:41 PM

SIGNYM

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Going to break in my new bamboo steamer tonight. Got a nice, small piece of salmon at the grocery store today and I have some veg to go with it.

Oooh, that sounds good! Can I come over for dinner, please?



Today is "cook's day off" so that means we eat up leftovers and scrounge the frig before we go shopping tomorrow. I'm having tuna salad and cole slaw tonight which will use up leftover tuna and some leftover cabbage. Tomorrow is back to the kitchen for me; I have Greek-style beef (with onions for hubby) with Greek-style salad (except dear daughter can't eat beans), but since I'm allergic to beef I also have some fish in the freezer.

Between my food allergies and daughter's food sensitivities, it's like I'm running a restaurant and cooking separate meals for everyone!


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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:05 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Going to break in my new bamboo steamer tonight. Got a nice, small piece of salmon at the grocery store today and I have some veg to go with it.

Oooh, that sounds good! Can I come over for dinner, please?



Today is "cook's day off" so that means we eat up leftovers and scrounge the frig before we go shopping tomorrow. I'm having tuna salad and cole slaw tonight which will use up leftover tuna and some leftover cabbage. Tomorrow is back to the kitchen for me; I have Greek-style beef (with onions for hubby) with Greek-style salad (except dear daughter can't eat beans), but since I'm allergic to beef I also have some fish in the freezer.

Between my food allergies and daughter's food sensitivities, it's like I'm running a restaurant and cooking separate meals for everyone!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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The salmon was delicious and I got lazy and just added a potato to it. But very tasty. I do need to find a little bigger or even little smaller pot for the steamer. The pot I used I have lost the lid for it.

I have to do grocery shopping tomorrow as well. That salmon was only enough for tonight, so need something for the rest of the week. Veg, I think I am good on. I'll see what I can find at the store. Veg is frozen but that is okay.

Only time I get a "cook's night off" is if I eat out or someone takes me out to eat.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:20 PM

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The salmon was delicious and I got lazy and just added a potato to it. But very tasty. I do need to find a little bigger or even little smaller pot for the steamer. The pot I used I have lost the lid for it.

I have to do grocery shopping tomorrow as well. That salmon was only enough for tonight, so need something for the rest of the week. Veg, I think I am good on. I'll see what I can find at the store. Veg is frozen but that is okay.

Only time I get a "cook's night off" is if I eat out or someone takes me out to eat.

We do "cooks night off" by eating leftovers to clear out the frig before shopping day. Also, hubby indulges in pumpkin pie on my night off. I guess you don't make extra so you don't have any leftovers?

Just OOC, what's your b'fast like? Cereal and milk? Here we have a choice: eggs and toast, sandwiches, oatmeal, or pancakes and eggs. Since we really don't eat breakfast ... we tend to eat our first meal around noon ... it's kind of a hodge-podge of breakfast and lunch ideas. Occasionally we'll just eat avocados or a banana. So sometimes its a cooked bfast and sometimes its whatever you want to grab.

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Thursday, August 6, 2020 3:14 AM

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The salmon was delicious and I got lazy and just added a potato to it. But very tasty. I do need to find a little bigger or even little smaller pot for the steamer. The pot I used I have lost the lid for it.

I have to do grocery shopping tomorrow as well. That salmon was only enough for tonight, so need something for the rest of the week. Veg, I think I am good on. I'll see what I can find at the store. Veg is frozen but that is okay.

Only time I get a "cook's night off" is if I eat out or someone takes me out to eat.

We do "cooks night off" by eating leftovers to clear out the frig before shopping day. Also, hubby indulges in pumpkin pie on my night off. I guess you don't make extra so you don't have any leftovers?

Just OOC, what's your b'fast like? Cereal and milk? Here we have a choice: eggs and toast, sandwiches, oatmeal, or pancakes and eggs. Since we really don't eat breakfast ... we tend to eat our first meal around noon ... it's kind of a hodge-podge of breakfast and lunch ideas. Occasionally we'll just eat avocados or a banana. So sometimes its a cooked bfast and sometimes its whatever you want to grab.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sometimes I do eat leftovers. Just depends what I feel like making. Tuesday I finished up some ground pork with tomato paste. That lasted me three days.

I have to have breakfast because I have my seizure meds to take. Have to have them with food. So yes it is instant oatmeal with actually coconut milk as I can't tolerate cow's milk because of an additive that's been in it for a good number of years. I go between plain oatmeal (Quaker Instant) or the maple and brown sugar flavoured.


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Thursday, August 6, 2020 6:02 PM

BRENDA


Pot found for steamer in my travels today.

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Friday, August 7, 2020 1:26 PM

BRENDA


More rain.

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Friday, August 7, 2020 9:11 PM

SIGNYM

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So yes it is instant oatmeal with actually coconut milk as I can't tolerate cow's milk because of an additive that's been in it for a good number of years. I go between plain oatmeal (Quaker Instant) or the maple and brown sugar flavoured.
That sounds yummy!

Just OOC, have you figured out what is in cow's milk that you react to? I don't recall any additives being in milk except vitamins A & D. I know that many farmers have been using rBest (a cow hormone) to increase milk production. Also, milk naturally contains a sugar (lactose) which is good for calves but some ppl can't tolerate it because they don't have the enzyme to break it down and digest it, and when the lactose gets into their gut the bacteria get too happy and create a lot of gas and diarrhea.

And there are proteins in milk that cause true allergies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3524881/ but some milk is available from a certain strain of cows that don't produce the most common allergen, and buffalo and sheep milks (and cheeses) are also good.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:17 AM

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The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism
Matt Taibbi book review


Thomas Frank is one of America’s more skillful writers, an expert practitioner of a genre one might call historical journalism – ironic, because no recent media figure has been more negatively affected by historical change. Frank became a star during a time of intense curiosity about the reasons behind our worsening culture war, and now publishes a terrific book, The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism, at a time when people are mostly done thinking about what divides us, gearing up to fight instead.

Frank published What’s the Matter with Kansas? in 2004, at the height of the George W. Bush presidency. The Iraq War was already looking like a disaster, but the Democratic Party was helpless to take advantage, a fact the opinion-shaping class on the coasts found puzzling. Blue-staters felt sure they’d conquered the electoral failure problem in the nineties, when a combination of Bill Clinton’s Arkansas twang, policy pandering (a middle-class tax cut!) and a heavy dose of unsubtle race politics (e.g. ending welfare “as we know it”) appeared to cut the heart out of the Republican “Southern strategy.”

Yet Clinton’s chosen successor Al Gore flopped, the party’s latest Kennedy wannabe, John Kerry, did worse, and by the mid-2000s, Bushian conservatism was culturally ascendant, despite obvious failures. Every gathering of self-described liberals back then devolved into the same sad-faced anthropological speculation about Republicans: “Why do they vote against their own interests?”

Frank, a Midwesterner and one of the last exemplars of a media tradition that saw staying in touch with the thinking of the general population as a virtue, was not puzzled. What’s the Matter with Kansas? was framed as an effort to answer that liberal cocktail-party conundrum – “How could anyone who’s ever worked for someone vote Republican?” was the version Frank described hearing – and the answer, at least on the surface, was appealing to coastal intellectuals.

Frank explained the Republican voter had thrown support to the Republicans’ pro-corporate economic message in exchange for solidarity on cultural issues, as part of what he called the “Great Backlash”:

While earlier forms of conservatism emphasized fiscal sobriety, the backlash mobilizes voters with explosive social issues — summoning public outrage over everything from busing to un-Christian art — which it then marries to pro-business economic policies.

What’s the Matter with Kansas? was about more than that, but for the chattering classes, this thesis was enough. What they heard was that the electorally self-harming white Republican voter from poor regions like the High Plains was motivated not by reason, but by racial animus and Christian superstition.

For a certain kind of blue-state media consumer, and especially for Democratic Party politicians, this was a huge relief, the political version of Sean’s hug-it-out message to Will Hunting: It's not your fault.

A reader looking back at that book will note Frank also predicted political disasters that would later befall Democrats, and outlined the thesis of his current book The People, No, which will probably suffer financially for being pretty much the opposite of “All this shit, it’s not your fault.”

The Kansas title alone spoke to one of Frank’s central observations: while red state voters might frame objections in terms of issues like abortion or busing, in a broader sense the Republican voter is recoiling from urban liberal condescension.

That Democrats needed Thomas Frank to tell them what conservatives fifteen miles outside the cities were thinking was damning in itself. Even worse was the basically unbroken string of insults emanating from pop culture (including from magazines like Rolling Stone: I was very guilty of this) describing life between the cities as a prole horror peopled by obese, Bible-thumping dolts who couldn’t navigate a Thai menu and polished gun lockers instead of reading.

Republicans may have controlled government at the time, but when they turned on TV sets or looked up at movie screens, their voters felt accused of something just for living in little towns, raising kids, and visiting church on Sundays. What’s the matter, they were asking, with that?

As Frank and basically anyone who’d been to an antiwar meeting knew, actual liberals in the Bush era were “an assortment of complainers – for the most part impoverished complainers – who wield about as much influence over American politics as the cashier at Home Depot.” In those circles, the union member was still revered, and the villain in small towns was a GM or Cargill executive, whose assaults on factory workers and family farmers of all races were central to the story of America’s decline.

Still, by the Bush years something had gone terribly wrong, in liberalism’s effort to reach small-town America: Liberalism may not be the monstrous, all-powerful conspiracy that conservatives make it out to be, but its failings are clear nonetheless. Somewhere in the last four decades liberalism ceased to be relevant to huge portions of its traditional constituency, and we can say that liberalism lost places like Shawnee and Wichita with as much accuracy as we can point out that conservatism won them over.

Frank ripped the political strategy of Clinton Democrats, who removed economic issues from their platform as they commenced accepting gobs of Wall Street money in a post-Mondale effort to compete with Republicans on fundraising. Gambling that working-class voters would keep voting blue because “Democrats will always be marginally better on economic issues,” New Democrats stopped targeting blue-collar voters and switched rhetorical emphasis to “affluent, white collar professionals who are liberal on social issues.”

The move seemed smart. This was the go-go eighties, we were all Material Girls (for whom the boy with the cold hard cash was always Mr. Right), and as Frank put it, “What politician in this success-loving country really wants to be the voice of poor people?”

While Clinton Democrats were perfecting a new image of urban cool, opponents were honing a new approach: Republicans, meanwhile, were industriously fabricating their own class-based language of the right, and while they made their populist appeal to blue-collar voters, Democrats were giving those same voters—their traditional base—the big brush-off…

The news media and Hollywood shifted accordingly. Working-class voices disappeared from the press and earnest movies like Norma Rae and The China Syndrome gave way to a new brand of upper-class messaging that reveled in imperious sneering and weird culture-war provocations: In an America where the chief sources of one’s ideas about life’s possibilities are TV and the movies, it’s not hard to be convinced that we inhabit a liberal-dominated world: feminist cartoons for ten-year-olds are followed by commercials for nonconformist deodorants; entire families of movies are organized around some transcendent dick joke…

In Frank’s home state of Kansas, voters reacted by moving right as the triumvirate of news media, pop culture, and Democratic politics spoke to them less and less. “The state,” he wrote, “watches impotently as its culture, beamed in from the coasts, becomes coarser and more offensive by the year.”

Perceiving correctly that there would be no natural brake on this phenomenon, since the executive set was able to pay itself more and more as the country grew more divided, Frank wondered, “Why shouldn’t our culture just get worse and worse, if making it worse will only cause the people who worsen it to grow wealthier and wealthier?”

We have the answer to that now, don’t we?





When I was first sent out to cover the Donald Trump campaign years later, I assumed the editorial concept would be simple: mockery. New York’s infamous “short-fingered vulgarian” had taken over national headlines in the summer of 2015 with a foul-mouthed stream-of-consciousness rap, organized around an impossible Pharaonic wall project and scare tales about rape-happy Mexicans – the Diceman doing Pat Buchanan. If this was taking over the Republican Party, there wasn’t much to report. The enterprise was doomed, and journalism’s only mission was to make sure the silliest bits were captured before being buried under the sands of history.

Twenty minutes into my first Trump campaign event, I knew this was wrong, and was seized by a sinking feeling that really hasn’t left since. Trump in person sounded like he’d been convinced to run for president after reading What’s the Matter with Kansas? His stump act seemed tailored to take advantage of the gigantic market opportunity Democrats had created, and which Frank described. He ranted about immigrants, women, the disabled, and other groups, sure, but also about NAFTA, NATO, the TPP, big Pharma, military contracting, and a long list of other issues.



In 2016, it was clear only a few people in the lefty media world understood what Trump was up to, and why he was a real threat to win. Michael Moore was one, and Frank was another. I don’t think it’s a coincidence both were Midwesterners. Frank released his next book, Listen, Liberal, in May of 2016, just as Trump was seizing the nomination. It began with the following observation: In the summer of 2014, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average hitting all-time highs, a poll showed that nearly three-quarters of the American public thought the economy was still in recession—because for them, it was.

He noted that workers’ share of GDP hit the lowest levels in American history in 2011 and stayed there, as inequities stemming from the Obama “recovery” became a “quasi-permanent development.”

Most of the press lived in a different America, though, and saw Frank’s warning as annoying, repetitive whining. Cocky reviewers at places like the New York Times bemoaned the book’s “pessimistic note” and berated him for seeing the “uneven recovery” of the Obama years as “a tragedy rather than a triumph.” Listen to what? Hadn’t he read the latest polls? Didn’t he know the rout was on?

(It should be noted that new Times reviews of books this week by Robert Reich and Zephyr Teachout, under the familiar headline, “Why the Working Class Votes Against Its Economic Interests,” are similarly snooty in telling both to “temper their anti-corporate zeal” in this election year. Very little learning takes place at these institutions).

After Trump’s election in November 2016, the first instinct of everyone wandering amid the smoldering wreckage of Democratic Party politics should have been to look in all directions for anyone with an explanation for what the hell just happened.

Of course the opposite took place. Frank seemed to be put into deep-freeze after Listen, Liberal, largely I think because he was telling a truth no one wanted to hear about the difference between the way the New York Times saw America, and how, say, Iowans or Nebraskans saw it. Trump meanwhile constructed his argument for the presidency atop that difference, and is still doing it today.

Also: the word, “populism,” became a synonym for plague or menace. Post-Trump and post-Brexit, pundits tended to use the term in tandem with other epithets, e.g. the “populist threat.” For Frank, a liberal intellectual whose breathless admiration for the actual Populist movement of the 1890s had been a running theme across two decades, this must have stung.

He responded by plunging into a history of Populism that probably began as quaint nostalgia but quickly turned into something else: a portrait of anti-Populism. The People, No documents the furious elite propaganda response to bottom-up political movements that has recurred in uncannily similar fashion at key moments across nearly a century and a half of American history, and is firing with particular venom today.

The Populists were a third-party movement that popped into view in the late 1800s in response to the excesses of monopoly capitalism. It centered around regulation of railroads, currency reform, federal loans to farmers, and other issues. In a development that particularly frightened the very wealthy at the time, it sought and secured alliances with Black farmers. Proving the concept of breaking the political and economic monopoly of New York elites with sheer voter energy was almost more important than the individual issues.

A sort-of populist, William Jennings Bryan, became the Democratic nominee in 1896, only to be slaughtered by a mediocrity named William McKinley. The Republican was backed by mountains of corporate money and the dirty-pool genius of his campaign “generalissimo,” Mark Hanna (whose media-dominating, cash-gobbling wizardry in suppressing voter preference ironically made him the hero of Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove). Mountains of propaganda depicted populists as diseased demons, unshaven slayers of American virtue:



In many popular histories, including Howard Zinn’s People’s History of the United States, the Populists are depicted as failures, crushed by almighty capital after selling out to make alliances with Democrats. But many of their ideas were implemented after the 1929 crash. Frank writes in detail how the same corporate messengers scrambled to defame Franklin Roosevelt in 1936 with an 1896-style anti-Populist attack.

F.D.R. himself was a genteel aristocrat, but battered as a Russian agent – one Chicago Tribune cartoon showed his hands covered with the “red jam of Moscow” – and his followers were described as a mob of “sentimentalists and demagogues” who wanted to “take away from the thrifty what the thrifty or their ancestors have accumulated.” His followers were “people of low mentality” who backed policies that were the “laughingstock of the leading monetary authorities of the world.” This campaign, which should sound familiar, failed over and over, as F.D.R. retained broad support and populism even became culturally dominant in the thirties and early forties, through the films of people like Orson Welles and Frank Capra.



It wasn’t until after World War II that the more effective version of anti-Populist messaging was developed, as Frank writes: Now anti-populism was taken up by a new elite, a liberal elite that was led by a handful of thinkers at prestigious universities … In short, the highly educated learned to deplore working-class movements for their bigotry, their refusal of modernity, and their borderline madness.

The new conception of populism, as popularized by historians like Richard Hofstadter, pitted the common run of voters against a growing class of elite-educated managerial professionals, philosopher-kings who set correct policy for the ignorant masses.

The model of enlightened government for this new “technocratic” class of “consensus thinkers” was John Kennedy’s “Camelot” cabinet of Experts in Shirtsleeves, with Robert McNamara’s corporatized Pentagon their Shining Bureaucracy on a Hill. This vision of ideal democracy has dominated mainstream press discourse for almost seventy years.

Since the establishment of this template, Frank notes, “virtually everyone who writes on the subject agrees that populism is ‘anti-pluralist,’ by which they mean that it is racist or sexist or discriminatory in some way… Populism’s hatred for ‘the elite,’ meanwhile, is thought to be merely a fig leaf for this ugly intolerance.”

Trump and Bernie Sanders both got hit with every cliché described in Frank’s book. Both were depicted as xenophobic, bigoted, emotion-laden, resistant to modernity, susceptible to foreign influence, and captured by “unrealistic” ideas they lacked the expertise to implement.

At the conclusion of The People, No, Frank sums up the book’s obvious subtext, seeming almost to apologize for its implications: My point here is not to suggest that Trump is a “very stable genius,” as he likes to say, or that he led a genuine populist insurgency; in my opinion, he isn’t and he didn’t. What I mean to show is that the message of anti-populism is the same as ever: the lower orders, it insists, are driven by irrationality, bigotry, authoritarianism, and hate; democracy is a problem because it gives such people a voice. The difference today is that enlightened liberals are the ones mouthing this age-old anti-populist catechism.

The People, No is more an endorsement of 1896-style populism as a political solution to our current dilemma than it is a diatribe against an arrogant political elite. The book reads this way in part because Frank is a cheery personality whose polemical style tends to accentuate the positive. In my hands this material would lead to a darker place faster — it’s infuriating, especially in what it says about the last four years of “consensus” propaganda, in particular the most recent iteration.

The book’s concept also reflects the Sovietish reality of post-Trump media, which is now dotted with so many perilous taboos that it sometimes seems there’s no way to get audiences to see certain truths except indirectly, or via metaphor. The average blue-state media consumer by 2020 has ingested so much propaganda about Trump (and Sanders, for that matter) that he or she will be almost immune to the damning narratives in this book. Protesting, “But Trump is a racist,” they won’t see the real point – that these furious propaganda campaigns that have been repeated almost word for word dating back to the 1890s are aimed at voters, not politicians.

In the eighties and nineties, TV producers and newspaper editors established the ironclad rule of never showing audiences pictures of urban poverty, unless it was being chased by cops. In the 2010s the press began to cartoonize the “white working class” in a distantly similar way.

This began before Trump. As Bernie Sanders told Rolling Stone after the 2016 election, when the small-town American saw himself or herself on TV, it was always “a caricature. Some idiot. Or maybe some criminal, some white working-class guy who has just stabbed three people.” These caricatures drove a lot of voters toward Trump, especially when he began telling enormous crowds that the lying media was full of liars who lied about everything.

After 2016 it became axiomatic that the Trump voter, or the Leave voter, was – without exception now – a crazed, racist monster. As detailed here multiple times, ruminations on Republican voter behaviors became not merely uninteresting to pundits after November 2016, but actively taboo. By 2020, the official answer to What’s the Matter with Kansas? was Kansas is a White Supremacist Project and Can Go Fuck Itself.

Frank in 2004 wrote about how confused Midwestern voters were, watching TV images of the beautiful people of the time. Movie stars and hedge-funders donned ribbons in support of animals or the “underprivileged,” while spending huge sums on pictures of Jesus covered in ants or on crucifix-shaped popsicles that supposedly were comments on “fanaticism and violence.” This, while factory towns were basically being moved en masse to China.

Imagine the reaction in these places now, to editorials in the New York Times instructing white liberals to cut off their relatives (by text, incidentally) until they donate to Black Lives Matter, or a CNN tweet instructing “individuals with a cervix” to start getting cancer screens at age 25, or to widespread denunciations of Mount Rushmore as a “monument of two slaveholders” when visited by Trump, after those same outlets praised its “majesty” just four years earlier.

These stories are as incomprehensible to Middle America as the pictures of MAGA fanatics going maskless and dying of Covid-19 to own the libs are to blue-state audiences. Yet both groups are bombarded with images of their opposite extremes, with predictable results: we all hate each other.

It’s no accident that the consensus press pumping out these messages spent the last four years denouncing Sanders – whose campaign was a polite promise to restore New Deal values for everyone, Republicans included – as far too radical for America.

Once Sanders was out of the way, those same news outlets embraced a significantly more radical ideology, one that swore a lot, described everyone to the right of Ibram Kendi as a white supremacist, and told small business owners they should put up with their stores being smashed for the cause of progress.

The history outlined in The People, No predicts this. America’s financial and political establishment has always been most terrified of an inclusive underclass movement. So it evangelizes a bizarre transgressive politics that tells white conservatives to fuck themselves and embraces a leftist sub-theology that preaches class as a racist canard. Same old game, same old goal: keep people divided. The only cost to the “consensus thinkers” who will likely re-take the White House under Joe Biden is, they will have to join Nike and Bank of America in flying a “Black Lives Matter” banner above a conference room or two as they re-take their seats at the controls of the S.S. Neoliberalism.

Frank was never a David Broder type, preaching airy centrism and celebrating phony “bipartisanship.” Instead his books, which filled a vacuum created by the disappearance/expulsion of working-class writers like Mike Royko or Studs Terkel, said conservative Middle America was worth understanding, and there was overlap between its concerns and those of the frustrated, oft-impoverished complainers who were the Democrats’ base.

Frank insisted there was both a danger in ignoring those shared concerns, and a huge potential benefit in addressing them. Fifteen years ago, that was an acceptable topic for elite discussion. In the Trump era it’s heresy, and even an eloquently-argued warning like The People, No will likely be denounced, as too much like paying attention to deplorables.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/kansas-should-go-f-itself


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Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:20 AM

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Looks like Ted got lost again today.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:38 PM

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So yes it is instant oatmeal with actually coconut milk as I can't tolerate cow's milk because of an additive that's been in it for a good number of years. I go between plain oatmeal (Quaker Instant) or the maple and brown sugar flavoured.
That sounds yummy!

Just OOC, have you figured out what is in cow's milk that you react to? I don't recall any additives being in milk except vitamins A & D. I know that many farmers have been using rBest (a cow hormone) to increase milk production. Also, milk naturally contains a sugar (lactose) which is good for calves but some ppl can't tolerate it because they don't have the enzyme to break it down and digest it, and when the lactose gets into their gut the bacteria get too happy and create a lot of gas and diarrhea.

And there are proteins in milk that cause true allergies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3524881/ but some milk is available from a certain strain of cows that don't produce the most common allergen, and buffalo and sheep milks (and cheeses) are also good.

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It's okay. To me it doesn't taste like anything.

When I first developed the problem I thought it was the lactose but it wasn't.

I know what the additive is. Vitamin A Palmitate. Makes me feel sick. Cow's milk has it added and most other "milks" like soy, nut milks and such have it in them.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:41 PM

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Rain again and this thing is giving me problems.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:09 PM

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BRENDA: So yes it is instant oatmeal with actually coconut milk as I can't tolerate cow's milk because of an additive that's been in it for a good number of years. I go between plain oatmeal (Quaker Instant) or the maple and brown sugar flavoured.

SIGNY: That sounds yummy!

Just OOC, have you figured out what is in cow's milk that you react to? I don't recall any additives being in milk except vitamins A & D. I know that many farmers have been using rBest (a cow hormone) to increase milk production. Also, milk naturally contains a sugar (lactose) which is good for calves but some ppl can't tolerate it because they don't have the enzyme to break it down and digest it, and when the lactose gets into their gut the bacteria get too happy and create a lot of gas and diarrhea.

And there are proteins in milk that cause true allergies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3524881/ but some milk is available from a certain strain of cows that don't produce the most common allergen, and buffalo and sheep milks (and cheeses) are also good.


BRENDA: It's okay. To me it doesn't taste like anything.

When I first developed the problem I thought it was the lactose but it wasn't.

I know what the additive is. Vitamin A Palmitate. Makes me feel sick. Cow's milk has it added and most other "milks" like soy, nut milks and such have it in them.

Huh, that's interesting! It must just be the specific form (palmitate) that causes the problem. Fortunately you can get pre-vitamin A from animal products (as retinoids) or pro-form vitamin A from plants (beta-carotene).

Apparently some nutritionists are concerned about long-term Vitamin A toxicity. Between the supplementation in many foods and the fact that people take multivitamins, it is possible to get overdosed. I tend to think of vitamin A and vitamin D as something of opposites: While vitamin A causes cells to revert to their immature stage, vitamin D causes cell maturation. Vitamin D helps your bones add calcium, vitamin A causes osteoporosis. Even the proform vitamin A beta-carotene promotes cancer, so there really is such a thing as "too much"!

https://butternutrition.com/signs-vitamin-a-toxicity/

Good thing you noticed how it made you feel!

Oatmeal sounds very tasty to me, maybe because I don't make it very often for myself (I tend to eat leftovers or snadwiches for bfast because it's faster)

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 5:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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BRENDA: So yes it is instant oatmeal with actually coconut milk as I can't tolerate cow's milk because of an additive that's been in it for a good number of years. I go between plain oatmeal (Quaker Instant) or the maple and brown sugar flavoured.

SIGNY: That sounds yummy!

Just OOC, have you figured out what is in cow's milk that you react to? I don't recall any additives being in milk except vitamins A & D. I know that many farmers have been using rBest (a cow hormone) to increase milk production. Also, milk naturally contains a sugar (lactose) which is good for calves but some ppl can't tolerate it because they don't have the enzyme to break it down and digest it, and when the lactose gets into their gut the bacteria get too happy and create a lot of gas and diarrhea.

And there are proteins in milk that cause true allergies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3524881/ but some milk is available from a certain strain of cows that don't produce the most common allergen, and buffalo and sheep milks (and cheeses) are also good.


BRENDA: It's okay. To me it doesn't taste like anything.

When I first developed the problem I thought it was the lactose but it wasn't.

I know what the additive is. Vitamin A Palmitate. Makes me feel sick. Cow's milk has it added and most other "milks" like soy, nut milks and such have it in them.

Huh, that's interesting! It must just be the specific form (palmitate) that causes the problem. Fortunately you can get pre-vitamin A from animal products (as retinoids) or pro-form vitamin A from plants (beta-carotene).

Apparently some nutritionists are concerned about long-term Vitamin A toxicity. Between the supplementation in many foods and the fact that people take multivitamins, it is possible to get overdosed. I tend to think of vitamin A and vitamin D as something of opposites: While vitamin A causes cells to revert to their immature stage, vitamin D causes cell maturation. Vitamin D helps your bones add calcium, vitamin A causes osteoporosis. Even the proform vitamin A beta-carotene promotes cancer, so there really is such a thing as "too much"!

https://butternutrition.com/signs-vitamin-a-toxicity/

Good thing you noticed how it made you feel!

Oatmeal sounds very tasty to me, maybe because I don't make it very often for myself (I tend to eat leftovers or snadwiches for bfast because it's faster)

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I've been taking a vitamin D supplement since I turned 50 on the recommendation of my GP.

It is. Not nice having an upset stomach after I eat something. Yuck!

This may sound strange but I have a hard time swallowing pills. So, I have to have something that I can "hide" my seizure meds in to take them. Spoonful of oatmeal and then the pill in it and I can swallow them with a good dose of water.

That's the only time I eat oatmeal.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 5:30 PM

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Dead hair dryer taken to small appliance recycling today. Trying to rain again.

Hearing aides on. I am making sure they still work for when I go back to play mah jong. That looks like October.

Also ran into the lady who runs the group and she told me that her husband is in bad shape. Last appointment to her husband's oncologist and the doctor said there was nothing more he could do. The cancer is all through him. They have one son here who lives in the city and the other is coming in from Ontario in the next few days.

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 7:21 PM

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lol. I used to have a huge problem swallowing pills when I was a kid.

Then in my late teens and early 20's I started taking Amino Acid tablets when I was power lifting in the gym. It looks like these days they made them a reasonable size, but in the early 2000's they were almost 1 1/2" long and about 3/4" thick. Not with smooth rounded edges everywhere either.

It took me a while to force myself to do it, but it got easier over time. Now tiny little pills and vitamins are easy. I can just do those without even using water anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Dead hair dryer taken to small appliance recycling today. Trying to rain again.

Hearing aides on. I am making sure they still work for when I go back to play mah jong. That looks like October.

Also ran into the lady who runs the group and she told me that her husband is in bad shape. Last appointment to her husband's oncologist and the doctor said there was nothing more he could do. The cancer is all through him. They have one son here who lives in the city and the other is coming in from Ontario in the next few days.

Oh yay! about the mah jong.

But too bad about the cancer. It's sad when people are at that stage of an illness. (Though at least up in Canada you don't have to worry about going bankrupt trying to treat it, or paying for hospice care if you can't. There's that much, anyway.)

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Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:02 AM

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lol. I used to have a huge problem swallowing pills when I was a kid.

Then in my late teens and early 20's I started taking Amino Acid tablets when I was power lifting in the gym. It looks like these days they made them a reasonable size, but in the early 2000's they were almost 1 1/2" long and about 3/4" thick. Not with smooth rounded edges everywhere either.

It took me a while to force myself to do it, but it got easier over time. Now tiny little pills and vitamins are easy. I can just do those without even using water anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I've had this problem since I was a child.

Seizure medication pills aren't really big but they can be thick because they start at about 200mg and can go up. The ones I take are 500mg a piece.

I have a friend in real life who used to be able to dry swallow pills. All I used to do was watch her and just wonder how she did it.

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Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Dead hair dryer taken to small appliance recycling today. Trying to rain again.

Hearing aides on. I am making sure they still work for when I go back to play mah jong. That looks like October.

Also ran into the lady who runs the group and she told me that her husband is in bad shape. Last appointment to her husband's oncologist and the doctor said there was nothing more he could do. The cancer is all through him. They have one son here who lives in the city and the other is coming in from Ontario in the next few days.

Oh yay! about the mah jong.

But too bad about the cancer. It's sad when people are at that stage of an illness. (Though at least up in Canada you don't have to worry about going bankrupt trying to treat it, or paying for hospice care if you can't. There's that much, anyway.)



That will be good. Got to figure out how to sanitize the tiles.

It is sad. He's at home right now and I'm sure she has help coming in to look after him. He might be on morphine, so a nurse would be administering that to him.
True on the no financial worries.

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Monday, August 10, 2020 5:45 PM

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Off to the vampires again for a liver check and seizure med level check.

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:58 PM

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Well, I harvested the very first of the tomatoes past few days.

I bought that tomato bush just for hubby, because I'm allergic to them and daughter doesn't like them! I was looking for an Early Girl which I've always had good success with, but this was a very late last-minute planting and the nursery was out of them s I found one very beat-up VHF resistant San Diego Red tomato instead. I had no idea what it would turn out like.

After a VERY hot June which halted fruit-set, the tomato turned into a 6 1/2 foot tall, 4 foot wide monster. This appears to be a late-maturing tomato, with smallish tomatoes, not highly productive but enough for one or two tomatoes per day until the end of the season, it looks like, which is just about what I would be picking. I couldn't resist trying one, even tho I can't taste much andam allergic: I'd say the tomatoes have a nice balance of acid and sweet.

Also, our avocado tree is raining avocados. Despite the leaves looking very beat-up because of the mite damage, the leaves had not been damaged so much that they're falling off (which overly-damaged leaves will do) so the tree is holding its own.

Given all that, I've been making hubby sandwiches for bfast: ham, reduced fat swiss, tomato, thin sliced onion, and mashed avocado on toast



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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:40 PM

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Hey, how's the home improvement going there, SIX?

At this end I think I have about 15 days of weeding (about an hour or so a day) to have the entire backyard beds and front yard cleared. Between the weed torch and the glyphosate concentrate, that REALLY put a big dent in the weeds, so I'm way far ahead of where I would normally be by this time last year.

I intend to clear the weeds (and especially the Bermuda grass), move and plant some more plants, and then either call chipdrop or make a deal with a local tree trimming compnay for some wood chips to use as mulch/suppress the weeds.

That's the plan, anyway.

KIKI, you might want to look into chipdrop if you're going to mulch large areas.

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:40 PM

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The drated double!

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:56 PM

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Off to the vampires again for a liver check and seizure med level check.

Good luck!!

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:15 PM

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At this end I think I have about 15 days of weeding (about an hour or so a day) to have the entire backyard beds and front yard cleared. Between the weed torch and the glyphosate concentrate, that REALLY put a big dent in the weeds, so I'm way far ahead of where I would normally be by this time last year.

I intend to clear the weeds (and especially the Bermuda grass), move and plant some more plants, and then either call chipdrop or make a deal with a local tree trimming company for some wood chips to use as mulch/suppress the weeds.

That's the plan, anyway.

KIKI, you might want to look into chipdrop if you're going to mulch large areas.

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After my back was so seriously bunged I could hardly move at all, it was better for a couple of days, then returned to its normal cranky self, where I couldn't stand up straight because of pain, or walk faster than a short-step shuffle because of pain. It turns out walking involves a lot of side to side weight shifting, and the bigger the step, the more the shift. So that, along with needing to stop and lie down, limited my pace of getting things done over the last few months ... even day to day things ... quite a bit.

Anyway, I hired a college student to do some yardwork for me and today was her first day. So far, so good! I have great plans! to be accomplished in small doable chunks, just not mostly by me. (I intend to do all the prep work so her work is efficient.)

Thursday I'm having a consulting arborist over. I sent her a couple of very detailed emails on saturday, after getting in touch with her later friday afternoon, so we have have something to talk about.

When it comes to mulch, my lot has already acquired armillaria which it didn't used to have, and I really don't want to take the chance of acquiring more pathogens by bringing in potentially contaminated mulch.

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Hey, how's the home improvement going there, SIX?



It's going...

I'd really love to have gotten the gutters up by now, but I can't rush the process. I haven't even jacked up the overhang at all and 3 weeks or so later I can still tell that there is some monsterous shifting going on behind the scenes from the overhang going up 1.5" on its own just by detaching the columns from the house. In retrospect, I would have done that a lot slower than I did instead of letting it raise on its own that much in a matter of five minutes.

You're supposed to only give those jacks 1/2 turn once per week. A 1.5" raise in 5 minutes I'd guess would be the equivalent to turning the jacks 20 times in 5 minutes, or 40 times as much as should have been raised in a single week.

That being said, I've got a few visible cracks on the ceilings in the finished bedrooms as well as in the basement now. I'm trying not to dwell on that mistake, and tell myself that it would have happened anyway if I was turning those things until the middle of winter.

Oh well... It was obviously a much more serious issue than even I had thought it was, so I'm glad that I relieved the pressure.



My roof patch took the 2nd time I went up there. Got a real good test yesterday...


Around 4:30PM it was bright outside. By 4:31 it was almost pitch black and the wind was so hard that I could hear it over the A/C and the beast of a fan I have pushing the cold air through the whole house.

Then the power went out... 4 times. Fortunately, it came back on and stayed on.



Then came the BOOM! Not thunder. What the hell was that?

Then BOOOOOOOOOOOM! WTF?????

I threw my shorts on and through the wall of rain that was falling down I saw a 45 foot tree limb lying in the street that was up on both my front property and the neighbors across the street too. It wouldn't be a while before figured out it wasn't one of my maples and it came from the very tops of one of my neighbor's sycamore trees. It fell a good 100 to 125 feet.

Well... that was probably the second boom. But what was the first?


Long story short, I didn't have any damage to my house yesterday. Thank God.

But the 1st boom was a limb that had somehow flown 50 feet either in between my and my neighbors house or just straight up and over their roof before slamming down on their back patio and splintering two 2"x10" boards that met at a corner as arm rails. I don't know if I could even do that damage with a single swing of my 20lb sledgehammer.

And the damned thing didn't even put a scratch on either of our houses. I would have loved to have that on video, because for the life of me I can't even figure it.




So... I spent a few hours in the rain, and then about 4 more hours clearing debris and cleaning up about 10,000 sticks off of my lawn yesterday until the sun went down. I spent most of today mowing the lawn with a bag because I let it grow too long to mulch and I filled up both of my huge wastebaskets with it. My lawn looks 1000% better than it did last year after fertilizing and mowing it so often that I'm not about to ruin that by leaving dead mulched trails everywhere like I did when I was drunk and made it look so bad in the first place.

The city already came by and cleared up everything, so that was cool.

Most of my neighbor's lawns look like shit still, but if you just looked at my house you wouldn't even know that yesterday even happened.


Somewhere during all of that I took a few opportunities to go up and look at my patch work where i have my buckets and they were bone dry. No way I'm worried that the patches I did aren't good now because of the amount we got in such a short time and the fact that it was probably coming down sideways for at least 10 minutes.




I'm in a little bit of pain though. I've been down in the dumps recently and haven't done much. It's probably what I've always assumed is undiagnosed bi-polar disorder, which my mom and two of my brothers suffer from. Sometimes when I'm down like that it is really hard to crawl out of it and on some days feels damn near impossible.

I kind of look at yesterday as divine intervention. Got me up off my ass and flipped that circuit in my brain like a light switch. I only stopped working at around 5PM today because I was exhausted and gave my body kind of a beating after so many days of doing literally nothing. Already looking forward to tomorrow though now.



Good luck with the weeds. Don't overdo it.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:20 PM

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Oh... and my neighbor called it a derecho. I'd never even heard of that word before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derecho

My old man said the winds were over 110MPH.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Off to the vampires again for a liver check and seizure med level check.

Good luck!!



Got there today and I go back in two weeks to see where the meds are and if lowering them has helped my liver.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:05 AM

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Got some recycling done after I got home. Mostly paper and some cans.


Also trimmed my hair.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:38 AM

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You trim your own hair?

That's a true talent. Except for doing around the ears and the sideburns with trimmers, I was never brave enough to try that unless I was just shaving my entire head.


Me... I'm glad that during lockdown and my refusal to go to the hair salon without wearing a hazmat suit that I decided to just grow it out this time. I was wearing a do rag for a while, but now that I've trained it back and I've been brushing it for the first time in years it's really looking good considering I haven't had it cut since early April.

I think I'm going to grow it past my shoulders again. Haven't done that since my early 20's. And back then I couldn't really grow much facial hair. I'm starting to look like Kurt Russell from The Thing right now.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 3:38 AM

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Not really a talent Jack. For me it's simple and I usually do it when I can or almost can sit on it. My hair is long and I wear it in a braid, just a single one. So when I think it needs a trim, I just reach for the scissors and cut just above the elastic I put in to end the braid. That means I am taking off at least an inch. Sometimes it is more and sometimes it is less. This time I think it was less than an inch. I never measure what I take off.

I've been wearing my hair long since grade seven more or less. Let my mom talk me into cutting it cut once when I was in grade eight or nine then I grew it out again. The cut then was around my ears and the front was feathered.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:02 AM

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Oh... and my neighbor called it a derecho. I'd never even heard of that word before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derecho

My old man said the winds were over 110MPH.

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JSF mentioned being in a derecho once. He recalls trees having been knocked down for a hundred miles. That may have been the infamous derecho of 1998 which swept thru southern Michigan with winds up to 135 mph.

You were hoping for a test of your rood patch? Well, I think you got it!
And it passed with flying colors!

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:06 AM

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Off to the vampires again for a liver check and seizure med level check.

KIKI: Good luck!!

BRENDA: Got there today and I go back in two weeks to see where the meds are and if lowering them has helped my liver.

I was wondering about the liver test, ince levitiracetam doesn't require one. Seems like you eat well and lead a healthy lifestyle, so I hope you get the liver issue figured out!

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:18 AM

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Hey, how's the home improvement going there, SIX?

SIX: It's going...

I'd really love to have gotten the gutters up by now, but I can't rush the process. I haven't even jacked up the overhang at all and 3 weeks or so later I can still tell that there is some monsterous shifting going on behind the scenes from the overhang going up 1.5" on its own just by detaching the columns from the house. In retrospect, I would have done that a lot slower than I did instead of letting it raise on its own that much in a matter of five minutes.

You're supposed to only give those jacks 1/2 turn once per week. A 1.5" raise in 5 minutes I'd guess would be the equivalent to turning the jacks 20 times in 5 minutes, or 40 times as much as should have been raised in a single week.

That being said, I've got a few visible cracks on the ceilings in the finished bedrooms as well as in the basement now. I'm trying not to dwell on that mistake, and tell myself that it would have happened anyway if I was turning those things until the middle of winter.

Oh well... It was obviously a much more serious issue than even I had thought it was, so I'm glad that I relieved the pressure.

Well, FWIW, the only thing you might have done differently would have been to find (or build) solid footing underneath the patio slab and jack THAT up, slab and all.
As a person in earthquake country, I'm pretty acutely aware of cracks. Even so, I tend to ignore cosmetic ones, which yours seem to be. (As a general rule of thumb, if you can't fit the edge of a nickel into the crack, it's cosmetic.)

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My roof patch took the 2nd time I went up there. Got a real good test yesterday...
Around 4:30PM it was bright outside. By 4:31 it was almost pitch black and the wind was so hard that I could hear it over the A/C and the beast of a fan I have pushing the cold air through the whole house.

Then the power went out... 4 times. Fortunately, it came back on and stayed on.

Then came the BOOM! Not thunder. What the hell was that?

Then BOOOOOOOOOOOM! WTF?????

I threw my shorts on and through the wall of rain that was falling down I saw a 45 foot tree limb lying in the street that was up on both my front property and the neighbors across the street too. It wouldn't be a while before figured out it wasn't one of my maples and it came from the very tops of one of my neighbor's sycamore trees. It fell a good 100 to 125 feet.

Well... that was probably the second boom. But what was the first?


Long story short, I didn't have any damage to my house yesterday. Thank God.

But the 1st boom was a limb that had somehow flown 50 feet either in between my and my neighbors house or just straight up and over their roof before slamming down on their back patio and splintering two 2"x10" boards that met at a corner as arm rails. I don't know if I could even do that damage with a single swing of my 20lb sledgehammer.

And the damned thing didn't even put a scratch on either of our houses. I would have loved to have that on video, because for the life of me I can't even figure it.

So... I spent a few hours in the rain, and then about 4 more hours clearing debris and cleaning up about 10,000 sticks off of my lawn yesterday until the sun went down. I spent most of today mowing the lawn with a bag because I let it grow too long to mulch and I filled up both of my huge wastebaskets with it. My lawn looks 1000% better than it did last year after fertilizing and mowing it so often that I'm not about to ruin that by leaving dead mulched trails everywhere like I did when I was drunk and made it look so bad in the first place.

The city already came by and cleared up everything, so that was cool.

Most of my neighbor's lawns look like shit still, but if you just looked at my house you wouldn't even know that yesterday even happened.

Somewhere during all of that I took a few opportunities to go up and look at my patch work where i have my buckets and they were bone dry. No way I'm worried that the patches I did aren't good now because of the amount we got in such a short time and the fact that it was probably coming down sideways for at least 10 minutes.


Dramatic weather you have there, SIX! One ofthe things I used to miss about leaving home was the changeable weather! Now, I'm just glad that the weatherman could go on vacation for three weeks in August and nobdody could tell the difference!


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I'm in a little bit of pain though. I've been down in the dumps recently and haven't done much. It's probably what I've always assumed is undiagnosed bi-polar disorder, which my mom and two of my brothers suffer from. Sometimes when I'm down like that it is really hard to crawl out of it and on some days feels damn near impossible.

I kind of look at yesterday as divine intervention. Got me up off my ass and flipped that circuit in my brain like a light switch. I only stopped working at around 5PM today because I was exhausted and gave my body kind of a beating after so many days of doing literally nothing. Already looking forward to tomorrow though now.



Good luck with the weeds. Don't overdo it.


Seems to me that you might be right about your self-dx: when you're hot, you're on fire. When not - not.

Take care of those aches and pains, SIX. Rest, ibuprofen, gentle motion.

As I have learned from sad experience, what you fuck up when you're 30 or 40 comes back to bite you when you're 60.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:27 AM

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SIGNYM: At this end I think I have about 15 days of weeding (about an hour or so a day) to have the entire backyard beds and front yard cleared. Between the weed torch and the glyphosate concentrate, that REALLY put a big dent in the weeds, so I'm way far ahead of where I would normally be by this time last year.

I intend to clear the weeds (and especially the Bermuda grass), move and plant some more plants, and then either call chipdrop or make a deal with a local tree trimming company for some wood chips to use as mulch/suppress the weeds.

That's the plan, anyway.

KIKI, you might want to look into chipdrop if you're going to mulch large areas.

KIKI: After my back was so seriously bunged I could hardly move at all, it was better for a couple of days, then returned to its normal cranky self, where I couldn't stand up straight because of pain, or walk faster than a short-step shuffle because of pain. It turns out walking involves a lot of side to side weight shifting, and the bigger the step, the more the shift. So that, along with needing to stop and lie down, limited my pace of getting things done over the last few months ... even day to day things ... quite a bit.

Anyway, I hired a college student to do some yardwork for me and today was her first day. So far, so good! I have great plans! to be accomplished in small doable chunks, just not mostly by me. (I intend to do all the prep work so her work is efficient.)

Well, for many years I had hired anywhere from regular to sometime gardeners, as I couldn't possibly have kept up with the yardwork on my own. I think it will work out for you, as long as you walk the job with her every day. I've had quite a number of desired plants weeded up, and quite a few weeds left in place.

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Thursday I'm having a consulting arborist over. I sent her a couple of very detailed emails on saturday, after getting in touch with her later friday afternoon, so we have have something to talk about.
I know you have plans for your tree planting, let me know what she says!

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When it comes to mulch, my lot has already acquired armillaria which it didn't used to have, and I really don't want to take the chance of acquiring more pathogens by bringing in potentially contaminated mulch.
True, that. I know "they" believe that fine enough chipping will kill bark beetles (they dry out, I guess) but there's mites and fungus and all kinds of things that can come in on wood chips.

This is southern California, for god's sake. Can't they use our endless sunshine and heat to solarize and sanitize the chips??



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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:39 AM

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Now that hubby's workshop is functional enough, we went and selected a 9"X14'X2' poplar plank at a REAL lumberyard so he could make a bedframe.

As he was cutting into it, we noticed an odd smell ... not unpleasant, but a little like cheese with undertones of sausage. So I looked it up: Apparently the plank had been spalted: infected with a wood fungus. That accounts for the smell, and the unusual color (almost walnut-colored grain running thru)

Fortunately from everything I've looked up the wood is still sound and strong enough to use, and there are no health consequences to using it. Spalted wood is prized for its coloration and figure, and many turners and woodworkers will spalt their wood on purpose. If it's heavily spalted along specific grains it may split, but having checked he wood with my thumbnail it seems quite hard, and once the wood has dried the process sops.

I tooks a few passes at it with the jack and try planes and was feeling quite proud of myself until hubby told me that his blades were VERY sharp and poplar is quite easy to plane. ANd there I was, thinking I had improved my technique!


But have been helping hubby measure and assess his cuts and planing as he turns lumber into dimesioned wood. Awesome process to see pretty, straight full-sized 2X4s emerge from a messy somewhat twisted, cupped, and bowed piece of roughcut lumber!

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:16 AM

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Not really a talent Jack. For me it's simple and I usually do it when I can or almost can sit on it. My hair is long and I wear it in a braid, just a single one. So when I think it needs a trim, I just reach for the scissors and cut just above the elastic I put in to end the braid. That means I am taking off at least an inch. Sometimes it is more and sometimes it is less. This time I think it was less than an inch. I never measure what I take off.

I've been wearing my hair long since grade seven more or less. Let my mom talk me into cutting it cut once when I was in grade eight or nine then I grew it out again. The cut then was around my ears and the front was feathered.



Oh... yeah. That makes more sense. When it's long you can pull it in front of you and see what you're doing.

I was thinking about times I was shaving my own head because I couldn't justify paying $20 for a haircut. I had to shave it down way shorter than I wanted to and hated even leaving the house for a week afterward because I looked like a skinhead. But if I didn't cut it that short I wasn't able to properly clip the hairs around my neck that grow out all curly like chest hair since the razor wouldn't grab them with a high guard and I don't think in 100 years I could ever get talented enough to trim them freehand while looking into a mirror I was holding in the other hand that was reflecting the back of my head off the medicine cabinet mirror.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:42 AM

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JSF mentioned being in a derecho once. He recalls trees having been knocked down for a hundred miles. That may have been the infamous derecho of 1998 which swept thru southern Michigan with winds up to 135 mph.

You were hoping for a test of your rood patch? Well, I think you got it!
And it passed with flying colors!



Yeah. It was a new experience for me. Not exactly one I'm fond of, but when you can find something new when you're 40 years old that's always a plus.


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Well, FWIW, the only thing you might have done differently would have been to find (or build) solid footing underneath the patio slab and jack THAT up, slab and all.


I had thought about that, but short of mudjacking which I've read doesn't stand the test of time very well despite being rather expensive, I couldn't really concieve of a way to do it. I can't even imagine how much that thing weighs. It's around 21 feet long by 5 feet wide. There is at least 8" to a foot exposed above the dirt as a step up to the front door, and who knows how deep it goes?

I'm happy with where it sits right now considering it's no longer doing any damage to the house. It isn't cracked and shows no signs of cracking any time soon. It also slopes downward away from the house, so when water gets on it, it's not pooling up next to the foundation. Probably not the most important thing, but cosmetically it doesn't look out of place at all either, which is great when I go to sell the house.

I think if I jacked the whole slab up I'd still have the same issues inside the house. The only way to have avoided that would have been to do everything super-slow.

There were 3 one foot long hex-head screws with washers that tied the decorateive columns into the inside of the overhang beneath the soffits that I had to take out with a ratchet. As I was doing this, I had to continually tighten the jacks to keep them up underneath the overhang. I kept going back and forth to both sides doing both. The process probably really took about 15 minutes. When it was done, the overhang was 1 1/2" higher than it was before I started unscrewing them, and I'm about 98% the jacks aren't actually doing anything right now.

I know that it went up this high because those screws if put back in would just be screwing into thin air right now. When measuring from the holes on the back of the columns to where they were attached in the overhang, it comes up about 1 1/2".

That's just way too much to move a structure in 15 minutes. It might have taken 15 years for it to move down that much. If it only started when the gutters were torn down when the house was foreclosed on, it's taken 9 years to sink.

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As a person in earthquake country, I'm pretty acutely aware of cracks. Even so, I tend to ignore cosmetic ones, which yours seem to be. (As a general rule of thumb, if you can't fit the edge of a nickel into the crack, it's cosmetic.)


So far, only cosmetic. Hairline, in fact... at least for now. Heartbreaking though when it happened in both of the bedrooms. I did a lot of work repairing massive ceiling cracks when I first moved in. I also know what I'm doing and in a normal situation you would never have seen cracks there again after I fixed it. I did similar work on my grandma's ceilings when I was living there 20 years ago and the ceilings at her place still look like I just finished the job yesterday.

More concerning to me is the floors and the stairwell.

When I first moved in, the floors hardly creaked at all. Two or three years ago, I started getting a lot of creaking going on underneath a good deal of the hardwood floor on both the 1st and 2nd floors. Just in the last year, the stairway going up to the attic which was essentially silent started creaking like the house is 100 years old.

But now that I've done what I did on the front porch, the creaking has been joined by cracking. Everyday I go all around the house and lightly stomp around on the floor until it stops. It always does stop. I'm hoping that this is just because it's working its way back into place.

If it weren't for the stairwell, I'd say that everything seems fine structurally still. But the stairs do have me a little worried. They're essentially in the center of the house. The ones going to the attic are directly above those going down to the basement and they wrap around each other.

There is visible damage to the ceiling where it meets the wall at the bottom of the basement stairs, as well as a hairline crack going across the hallway there in front of them. There is no post on the side of the stairs away from the wall so the ones going up to the attic kind of just "float". Again, I don't really think there is a structural issue because they're probably be some super visible evidence that things were caving in, but you can't imagine how it feels living in a house that is constantly making noises that it never used to make. Especially when you're home all day considering what's going on IRL right now.

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Dramatic weather you have there, SIX! One ofthe things I used to miss about leaving home was the changeable weather! Now, I'm just glad that the weatherman could go on vacation for three weeks in August and nobdody could tell the difference!


Normally I'd say I'll take our weather over your constant heat, but I'm about one flood or massive tree limb falling away from offering up a trade.




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Seems to me that you might be right about your self-dx: when you're hot, you're on fire. When not - not.

Take care of those aches and pains, SIX. Rest, ibuprofen (preven, gentle motion.

As I have learned from sad experience, what you fuck up when you're 30 or 40 comes back to bite you when you're 60.



Yeah. I think I started noticing it in my 20's. I was much more active every single day back then and didn't let it get in the way of what needed to be done, but when I'd be "up" I'd wonder why just the day before I was so anxious and worried about what everybody else thought all the time. Then the next day I'd be right back there and wondering why I couldn't feel like I did just the day before.


I don't think I did any damage yesterday. Just not as easy to get a massive amount of work done over two days after doing nothing for a long time like it was back in my 20's is all. Was still a bit sore when I got up this morning but nothing that a little moving around didn't cure.


I gotta get up on the roof today to pull some large branches down that are up by the overhang. Going to be the first thing I do today. I wanted to get it done yesterday, but by 4:00PM I'd already decided that was a job for another day. Do the ladder stuff first.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:29 PM

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Brenda:
Off to the vampires again for a liver check and seizure med level check.

KIKI: Good luck!!

BRENDA: Got there today and I go back in two weeks to see where the meds are and if lowering them has helped my liver.

I was wondering about the liver test, ince levitiracetam doesn't require one. Seems like you eat well and lead a healthy lifestyle, so I hope you get the liver issue figured out!

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Well, I am on a high dose of it. Before my GP took it down I was over 3,00omg as the tablets are 500mg a piece and I was taking 3 in the morning and 3 at night. Also I've been on them around 12years. So, we shall see.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:35 PM

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Not really a talent Jack. For me it's simple and I usually do it when I can or almost can sit on it. My hair is long and I wear it in a braid, just a single one. So when I think it needs a trim, I just reach for the scissors and cut just above the elastic I put in to end the braid. That means I am taking off at least an inch. Sometimes it is more and sometimes it is less. This time I think it was less than an inch. I never measure what I take off.

I've been wearing my hair long since grade seven more or less. Let my mom talk me into cutting it cut once when I was in grade eight or nine then I grew it out again. The cut then was around my ears and the front was feathered.



Oh... yeah. That makes more sense. When it's long you can pull it in front of you and see what you're doing.

I was thinking about times I was shaving my own head because I couldn't justify paying $20 for a haircut. I had to shave it down way shorter than I wanted to and hated even leaving the house for a week afterward because I looked like a skinhead. But if I didn't cut it that short I wasn't able to properly clip the hairs around my neck that grow out all curly like chest hair since the razor wouldn't grab them with a high guard and I don't think in 100 years I could ever get talented enough to trim them freehand while looking into a mirror I was holding in the other hand that was reflecting the back of my head off the medicine cabinet mirror.

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I don't pull it over my head, just over my shoulder.

Sorry for laughing but you sound like my dad. He took to cutting his own hair for a bit when I was a child. In fact the whole familys. Once he gave himself almost a mohawk. He took too much off one side. Luckily for him that whenever he went out to the stores and stuff he always wore a hat.

My mom wasn't too happy with his hair cutting skills. He was trying to save a little money. Don't remember where he got the tools to try it.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:37 PM

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Off for a walk on what looks to be a drizzly day here.

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