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SIX: you have water seeping thru your block walls?

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As an aside... any ideas for something I can wrap around the pipe where the 1/8" hole was drilled to prevent the pump from locking up because of the vacuum?


I was going to make that relief hole much lower and pointed downward in the new PVC pipe, but I had to re-use the old PVC coming out of the pump because my dumb ass glued the male-to-female PVC piece into the pump and it wasn't coming out. (I ended up adding a shorter length in between that and the new check valve with a rubber coupler.

So even though the thing is a lot quieter now, there is a ton of unnecessary splash back. It wasn't a problem when I could just cover immediately over the hole with a paver and then cover the whole thing up with visqueen, but now that I have a camera on there it is a problem. I still don't have full view of the well either since I still have to leave that paver on top otherwise water will get all over the place.

I'm sure there's something I can come up with. Maybe I can fabricate something out of a small piece of the sheet metal I used for roof repairs. Just something that the water would hit and go straight down into the well instead of hitting the side of it like a miniature fire hose.

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If just a splash diverter, then a few ideas.

Just a piece of plastic, with a hole on one side. Wedge it on one side of the pump, hole a few inches above the spout hole, the bottom against the well wall, and a zip tie around the pump casing and through the hole to keep it in place.

Another: take a plastic mayonaise jar, or similar. Empty of mayo. cut off the bottom of the jar. Cut through one side of the jar, from bottom to top. Maybe trim the top rim (the part that has threads, where the lid screws onto), to just barely less than the total circumference of the discharge pipe. slip the contraption around the pipe. Squeeze the top rim around the pipe, and hose clamp that in place, tight. The remaining loose-hanging shell of the jar hangs over the hole, effectively a hood.

Or a chunk of used rubber tire. wrap a piece around the discharge pipe. hose clamp the top of it, above the hole. The hole spurt will push the tire flap away, and be diverted down.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, over the past couple of days managed to drag dear daughter's dresser into her room, a rake up enuf leaves to fill both 65-gal bins and shred them today.

Those will be the last leaves I shred for this season. Any more leaves that I rakeup are going into greenwaste. Strictly cleanup, no recovery bc the closer I get to the dirt the more grasses and weeds (and their seeds) and sticks I pick up, and I don't want to be breaking my strings and spreading unwanted seeds around.

One of the things that was hanging me up on the front yard was bc there are SO MANY things to do I wasn't sure where to start, but I finally figured out my sequence and I can move forward with a plan where I won't be undoing or re-doing previous work.

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SIGNYM: SIX: you have water seeping thru your block walls?

SIX: Yes.
Under the porch that Uncle Bob made. The house itself isn't made with cinder blocks, but the porch is.
I tried to repair what I could when we redid the flooring, but short of demolishing the room and starting from scratch or paying somebody huge money to do it right, that's where we're at.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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SIGNYM: SIX: you have water seeping thru your block walls?

SIX: Yes.
Under the porch that Uncle Bob made. The house itself isn't made with cinder blocks, but the porch is.
I tried to repair what I could when we redid the flooring, but short of demolishing the room and starting from scratch or paying somebody huge money to do it right, that's where we're at.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Oh. I have a similar problem: Our neighbor's sprinkler spray has apparently been hitting our block wall for years and the water has been seeping thru ar such a rate that the concrete is dissolving out and the affected blocks are getting crumnly.

Where I worked we got all kinds of specialty products for testing, as well as the usual Thompson's Water Seal and similar. Having used Thompson's in the past and knowing its formulation I can say I'm not a big fan. Been doing a casual internet search for a product that calls itself a "concrete consolident". I don't recall the exact chemistry but I DO remember being impressed (like nothing I've ever seen before; asI recall it uses a form of fluoride) so if I find it again I'll let you know. And if you find anythin useful, please let me know!

But if worse comes to worst, there's always water-based epoxy. (Need water-based so the water in the blocks doesn't poison the reaction.)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
As an aside... any ideas for something I can wrap around the pipe where the 1/8" hole was drilled to prevent the pump from locking up because of the vacuum?


I was going to make that relief hole much lower and pointed downward in the new PVC pipe, but I had to re-use the old PVC coming out of the pump because my dumb ass glued the male-to-female PVC piece into the pump and it wasn't coming out. (I ended up adding a shorter length in between that and the new check valve with a rubber coupler.

So even though the thing is a lot quieter now, there is a ton of unnecessary splash back. It wasn't a problem when I could just cover immediately over the hole with a paver and then cover the whole thing up with visqueen, but now that I have a camera on there it is a problem. I still don't have full view of the well either since I still have to leave that paver on top otherwise water will get all over the place.

I'm sure there's something I can come up with. Maybe I can fabricate something out of a small piece of the sheet metal I used for roof repairs. Just something that the water would hit and go straight down into the well instead of hitting the side of it like a miniature fire hose.

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JSF: Not completely sure what you are looking to do.

If trying to seal it, then that wet seal or Flex Seal stuff from TV and now in stores would likely work.

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I don't want to seal it. It's a necessity. Without this hole the pump will fail due to "air lock", which happens because of the vacuum formed between the pump and the check-valve. The hole allows air to be sucked back into that length of pipe between the two, with the unfortunate side effect of spraying water back into the well as the pump is going off.

I didn't do this when I had a $300+ cast iron Zoeller pump down there and it failed after little more than a year of use.

My problem here is that I did it wrong during my emergency install. It should have been much lower, and I should have angled it down into the well instead of straight out the side of the pipe.

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If just a splash diverter, then a few ideas.

Just a piece of plastic, with a hole on one side. Wedge it on one side of the pump, hole a few inches above the spout hole, the bottom against the well wall, and a zip tie around the pump casing and through the hole to keep it in place.

Another: take a plastic mayonaise jar, or similar. Empty of mayo. cut off the bottom of the jar. Cut through one side of the jar, from bottom to top. Maybe trim the top rim (the part that has threads, where the lid screws onto), to just barely less than the total circumference of the discharge pipe. slip the contraption around the pipe. Squeeze the top rim around the pipe, and hose clamp that in place, tight. The remaining loose-hanging shell of the jar hangs over the hole, effectively a hood.

Or a chunk of used rubber tire. wrap a piece around the discharge pipe. hose clamp the top of it, above the hole. The hole spurt will push the tire flap away, and be diverted down.


Do those make sense?

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Yeah. That makes sense.

It also occurs to me that I saved the screw clamps from the old check valve which will make this easier.

I have a long length of thin rolled steel that I used for roof repair in the garage. It shouldn't take more than a few minutes to cut whatever shape I want and have a thin, long length that I can use to form a "ring" which I can wrap around the pipe before clamping it down. I could then use some superglue to firmly affix a felt furniture pad inside the hood to dampen the noise.

I just want to do this now so I can remove that patio paver which keeps about 85% of the splash back in the well. It's literally in the worst possible place for the camera right now.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
OK, fine. So then DO IT. It doesn't help to hear your guesses or imaginings. That is why I asked to perform the test, now, without others factors confusing the results.

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I say this because inadvertantly I'd already figured this out through experience.

Making those paint marks will certainly come in handy for this in the future.

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If I let a laundry load go, it will be quite quick though. I can easily make that pump go of 2 times with a load and possibly 3 depending on how high it was before the laundry started emptying into it. That would all happen in a matter of 60 to 90 seconds or so.

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Great. Start the test sequence after the laundry water is done pouring in.

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I'm asking you what purpose this will serve.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah... that's why I thought superglue instead of relying on whatever adhesive comes on the back of it, but your mind went right where mine did.

Hopefully it's not too loud without it.

I could probably cut off a piece of a dish rag or something and clamp that under the sheet metal ring.

I'll see what it sounds like with nothing first though. It might be fine.

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Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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That's all good news!

You've been taking good care of yourself. Congrats!

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SIGNYM: SIX: you have water seeping thru your block walls?

SIX: Yes.
Under the porch that Uncle Bob made. The house itself isn't made with cinder blocks, but the porch is.

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Oh. I have a similar problem: Our neighbor's sprinkler spray has apparently been hitting our block wall for years and the water has been seeping thru ar such a rate that the concrete is dissolving out and the affected blocks are getting crumnly.

Where I worked we got all kinds of specialty products for testing, as well as the usual Thompson's Water Seal and similar. Having used Thompson's in the past and knowing its formulation I can say I'm not a big fan. Been doing a casual internet search for a product that calls itself a "concrete consolident". I don't recall the exact chemistry but I DO remember being impressed (like nothing I've ever seen before; asI recall it uses a form of fluoride) so if I find it again I'll let you know. And if you find anythin useful, please let me know!

But if worse comes to worst, there's always water-based epoxy. (Need water-based so the water in the blocks doesn't poison the reaction.)

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Study: California fire killed 10% of world’s thousands-of-years-old giant sequoias

Researchers used satellite imagery and modeling from previous fires to determine that between 7,500 and 10,000 of the towering species perished in the fire. That equates to 10% to 14% of the world’s mature giant sequoia population, the newspaper said.

“I cannot overemphasize how mind-blowing this is for all of us. These trees have lived for thousands of years. They’ve survived dozens of wildfires already.” said Christy Brigham, chief of resources management and science at Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks.

https://apnews.com/article/california-fire-killed-10-percent-redwood-t
rees-63c80e8d28e32596637f3ecc29cfe3c8

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah... that's why I thought superglue instead of relying on whatever adhesive comes on the back of it, but your mind went right where mine did.

Hopefully it's not too loud without it.

I could probably cut off a piece of a dish rag or something and clamp that under the sheet metal ring.

I'll see what it sounds like with nothing first though. It might be fine.

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Rag will disintegrate with water blasting. Maybe some ratty piece of plastic. Rubber - you got an old bike tire to cut up, old car tire to cut up? Make a strip of those, tuck under your metal piece, if you don't want to just make the whole thing rubber. You don't know a single person with an old tire? People pay to get rid of those. stop by a used tire store, see if they have some ratty old thing for you to take away for free. Weather checked is fine, doesn't matter.

It's not like this needs to be permanent, without the ability to change.


If you use Great Stuff as a sound dampener, that stuff holds up against water quite well, and if it breaks up, it might go though your pump without damage.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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Oh that's SO nice to hear! Congratulations, Brenda!

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Sigh.

Drought ...



... and its consequences ...

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Study: California fire killed 10% of world’s thousands-of-years-old giant sequoias

Researchers used satellite imagery and modeling from previous fires to determine that between 7,500 and 10,000 of the towering species perished in the fire. That equates to 10% to 14% of the world’s mature giant sequoia population, the newspaper said.

“I cannot overemphasize how mind-blowing this is for all of us. These trees have lived for thousands of years. They’ve survived dozens of wildfires already.” said Christy Brigham, chief of resources management and science at Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks.

https://apnews.com/article/california-fire-killed-10-percent-redwood-t
rees-63c80e8d28e32596637f3ecc29cfe3c8

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure of your situation.

I thought I had seen mention of cinder block.

Are these cinder block, concrete block, brick, what?

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Decorative wall? What other function? joined by mortar, grout, reinforced?

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Managed to spray pendimethalin on part of the front yard (where dog can't reach when she's tied up out front when I'm working there) and corn gluten on the closer part of the yard for a head-to-head comparison. Took photos of everything. Have to go shopping but tomorrow I'll water it in.

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OH SIX, BTW, CHECK YOUR WEED N FEED PACKAGE. If it has a pre-emergent component to it, it may stunt any further grass seed sprouting, so I hope your grass is well established.

Also check to see if it needs to be watered in.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Figured a picture is worth a thousand words and video perhaps a million...

Here's the work for the hood out in the garage. I made a whoopsie and tested it on a 2" diameter pipe because I forgot it's only a 1.5" diameter pipe in the basement, so I only needed one of the clamps instead of daisy chaining two of them together.


And here it is in action, as filmed on SUMP PUMP TV.

https://streamable.com/621ci9


ETA: Sorry you have to click on that link to see the vid. I tried about 50 different ways to brute force it with HTML code, but I can't figure out how to do it. It might not even be possible here anymore.

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Been to my doc's today to get report on lab work. All is good. Bad cholesterol is down, liver function good. Thyroid stable. Been on a lower dosage of my seizure meds for a year worked.

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Good to hear Brenda.

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SIGNYM:
Managed to spray pendimethalin on part of the front yard (where dog can't reach when she's tied up out front when I'm working there) and corn gluten on the closer part of the yard for a head-to-head comparison. Took photos of everything. Have to go shopping but tomorrow I'll water it in.

SIX: What is pendimethalin and corn gluten?

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Hope your headache relents, SIX. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. And make sure you get enuf salt

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If it's any comfort, Oregon has seen much worse droughts in the past 125 years or so, especially from about 1927-1937.

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But better forest management would lessen the impact of both drought (fire) AND floods (mudslides) by selectively thinning forests and not flipping back and forth between clear-cutting, fire suppression, and (not so) benign neglect.

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I expect the drought to end in a year or so, based on climate models.

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