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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:15 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well, I DID figure out where the dream came from, but I do want to explain a bit more about the restaurant in that mall.

The practice of that restaurant was to have the wait-staff come by and tell you what was really in that hamburger ... or clam soup, or whatever, after you finished and were ready to pay your bill. (BTW, it was a fine-dining restaurant, and there was nothing unhealthy or gross about whatever they used in making their delicious food. The point was that the chefs were able to use spices and their skills at cooking techniques in order to fool you into thinking one kind of food was something else.)

Aside from the occasional well-dressed older couple quietly eating a fine meal together, the restaurant was full of 20something to 30something Koreans in fairly large groups, who would come together to enjoy a sort of 'dining game' - where they would order a whole bunch of different plates and share them around for tastes, and everyone would discuss and opine what they were. And when the wait-staff would tell them what the dishes were, there would be a lot of surprise and laughter all around about the food and their guesses. Not only were they coming to eat, and for excellent cooking, but to play a game with their friends.

Until I started to wake up and the dream started to fragment at the end, it was remarkably vivid and cohesive.



Anyway, the dream partly come from a commercial on TV that I purely loathe. It's for a Samsung phone (I think it's a phone) and there is nothing about that it I don't detest ... from the quick impressionistic glimpses of the phone(?) that aren't enough to let you know why the phone(?) really is different from anything else and therefore special, to the young(er) actors doing 100% pointless things (that are presumably an expression of whimsy) and mugging vapidly for the camera, to the lyrics repeated over and over "I see it I need it I want it" as if it's perfectly normal to have a blank brain up until a the time a commercial probe stimulates brainless reflexive buying.

Yes, we should all aspire to be zombie buyers where 'see want need' is one brainless word ahead of 'buy'.

And I also glanced over a recent article about K-pop culture.



And so, the dream-mall was born, as an expression of people who are brainless consumers in a brainless-consumerist heaven.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nice to wake up and realize I don't have any immediate plumbing to work on anymore. Knowing I needed to do that stuff has been in the back of my mind for years now. I wish the spigot was a perfect solution, but for right now I'm going to settle for good enough and move on.

That being said, even after thinking to myself I REALLY need to move the coffee pot from the very tight quarters to the left of the stove, I managed not to seat the pot correctly when grabbing a cup while it was in mid brew. This time when I went back to get another cup there was literally nothing in the pot and it was all over the countertop, the unfinished floor and under the fridge. My mud pan and 3 paint brushes were sitting in it too among other things. Shit.

That took a while to clean up.

Good news is I got to test the paint job. The last time I did this the lower cabinets only had primer on them and were quite difficult to clean up. This time, with two coats of white paint, it was an easy wipe away.



I think I'm going to go and spot sand all that cabinet hardware I'd stripped in the areas where some light rust developed, then I'm going to give them all a nice bath in a 6 gallon bucket with dish soap. If things go well I'll have all of my shelf brackets ready to install tomorrow, and the lazy susan hardware will be on standby until I paint the discs.

If they go really well today, I'll be able to mow the back yard which hasn't been cut for 4 days now.

Looking forward to spring ending so I don't have to mow so much.

Well... I've got to get some weed and feed down for a few years and eventually I won't have to mow every other day to have a good looking lawn.



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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:20 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Oh, I finally sent off the last of my internet project last night. So I'll just wait for any comments, requests, critiques that might come in over the next month or so. At least it's out of my hair and off my mind.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Well, I DID figure out where the dream came from, but I do want to explain a bit more about the restaurant in that mall.

The practice of that restaurant was to have the wait-staff come by and tell you what was really in that hamburger ... or clam soup, or whatever, after you finished and were ready to pay your bill. (BTW, it was a fine-dining restaurant, and there was nothing unhealthy or gross about whatever they used in making their delicious food. The point was that the chefs were able to use spices and their skills at cooking techniques in order to fool you into thinking one kind of food was something else.)

Aside from the occasional well-dressed older couple quietly eating a fine meal together, the restaurant was full of 20something to 30something Koreans in fairly large groups, who would come together to enjoy a sort of 'dining game' - where they would order a whole bunch of different plates and share them around for tastes, and everyone would discuss and opine what they were. And when the wait-staff would tell them what the dishes were, there would be a lot of surprise and laughter all around about the food and their guesses. Not only were they coming to eat, and for excellent cooking, but to play a game with their friends.

Until I started to wake up and the dream started to fragment at the end, it was remarkably vivid and cohesive.



Anyway, the dream partly come from a commercial on TV that I purely loathe. It's for a Samsung phone (I think it's a phone) and there is nothing about that it I don't detest ... from the quick impressionistic glimpses of the phone(?) that aren't enough to let you know why the phone(?) really is different from anything else and therefore special, to the young(er) actors doing 100% pointless things (that are presumably an expression of whimsy) and mugging vapidly for the camera, to the lyrics repeated over and over "I see it I need it I want it" as if it's perfectly normal to have a blank brain up until a the time a commercial probe stimulates brainless reflexive buying.

Yes, we should all aspire to be zombie buyers where 'see want need' is one brainless word ahead of 'buy'.

And I also glanced over a recent article about K-pop culture.



And so, the dream-mall was born, as an expression of people who are brainless consumers in a brainless-consumerist heaven.




Did any of them order the Special? The Special is only for special occasions.



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Monday, May 24, 2021 1:51 PM

BRENDA


The rain is back. Yuck. Anyways out for my walk.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 3:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's a lot of yard work...

Any chance you could find another gardener to work with now? I know you find some enjoyment doing it, but it sounds like it's eating up a lot of your time Sigs.

LOL
Have you forgotten what thread you are in? The whole purpose of gardening is to create make-work, isn't it?

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Monday, May 24, 2021 4:07 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's a lot of yard work...

Any chance you could find another gardener to work with now? I know you find some enjoyment doing it, but it sounds like it's eating up a lot of your time Sigs.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

Yes, it's a very high-maintenance property!

I've tried to keep in touch with our former gardener, but he's so PO'd that we laid him off he refuses to answer my texts. The fact that we sold him a perfectly functioning car - smogged and with new AC- worth at least $500 for a buck, giving him what ppl need more than anything in LA which is transportation, apparently didn't get us much goodwill.

But I've seen him do that with other ppl who gave him oppty, getting pissed off and throwing it away, so I guess I don't take it personally. It's his problem, not mine.

A lot of maintenance is weeding, which is why I'm going the chemical route.

But my ultimate plan is to sculpt the front yard, especially the area with the star pine, to accommodate pathways for visual interest and maintenance, and put down a bunch of chipped bark mulch for weed suppression.

I may want to build in hardscape pathways later, but I already have a source for clean topsoil and chipped bark. At least then it won't be such an ongoing time suck and ican make progress there and elsewhere.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 4:22 PM

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1KIKI:

Well, I DID figure out where the dream came from, but I do want to explain a bit more about the restaurant in that mall

The practice of that restaurant was to have the wait-staff come by and tell you what was really in that hamburger ... or clam soup, or whatever, after you finished and were ready to pay your bill. (BTW, it was a fine-dining restaurant, and there was nothing unhealthy or gross about whatever they used in making their delicious food. The point was that the chefs were able to use spices and their skills at cooking techniques in order to fool you into thinking one kind of food was something else.)

Aside from the occasional well-dressed older couple quietly eating a fine meal together, the restaurant was full of 20something to 30something Koreans in fairly large groups, who would come together to enjoy a sort of 'dining game' - where they would order a whole bunch of different plates and share them around for tastes, and everyone would discuss and opine what they were. And when the wait-staff would tell them what the dishes were, there would be a lot of surprise and laughter all around about the food and their guesses. Not only were they coming to eat, and for excellent cooking, but to play a game with their friends.

Until I started to wake up and the dream started to fragment at the end, it was remarkably vivid and cohesive.



Anyway, the dream partly come from a commercial on TV that I purely loathe. It's for a Samsung phone (I think it's a phone) and there is nothing about that it I don't detest ... from the quick impressionistic glimpses of the phone(?) that aren't enough to let you know why the phone(?) really is different from anything else and therefore special, to the young(er) actors doing 100% pointless things (that are presumably an expression of whimsy) and mugging vapidly for the camera, to the lyrics repeated over and over "I see it I need it I want it" as if it's perfectly normal to have a blank brain up until a the time a commercial probe stimulates brainless reflexive buying.

Yes, we should all aspire to be zombie buyers where 'see want need' is one brainless word ahead of 'buy'.

And I also glanced over a recent article about K-pop culture.



And so, the dream-mall was born, as an expression of people who are brainless consumers in a brainless-consumerist heaven.

Interesting dream as response to a disgusting commercial, KIKI!


Quote:

SIX: Did any of them order the Special? The Special is only for special occasions.



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Wow, where do you find these, SIX?? So well done!

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Monday, May 24, 2021 4:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It talks about code, but not what code. An example specifies New Zealand.



Most from Signy's link https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Plumbing-Vent-Distance-Codes.php reference the 'International Building Code', which according to wiki is rather over-named, as it's mostly for US use. In the US the relevant code used to be the UBC - Uniform Building Code. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Building_Code The International (US) Building Code has since replaced it, according to wiki.

BTW, I didn't see any examples in Signy's link that were related to NZ.

Also, fwiw, from the link

these states adopted the 2009 IPC section of the IBC
Alabama, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia (and others)

while these states adopted the 2006 version
Arizona, Arkansas, District of Columbia, Georgia, New York, South Carolina (and others).


I specifically looked up Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota building codes. Indiana, Illinois, and Minnesota have all adopted various version of the IBC at various times. Wisconsin adopted the IBC but only for new commercial buildings. It suggests the Uniform Dwelling Code (which doesn't appear to have a plumbing section), but each county/ municipality is free to adopt more or less stringent standards. That may be why you're unfamiliar with building codes, requirements, and practices elsewhere.

Indiana https://www.iabo.com/Current-Code
Illinois https://up.codes/codes/illinois
Minnesota https://up.codes/viewer/minnesota/irc-2018/chapter/new_3_2020/minnesot
a-residential-code#new_3_2020

Wisconsin https://www.plananalyst.com/wisconsin-building-and-residential-codes/

OK, so 20 states of 50 - not something I would pay much attention to, when less than half do. Including CA ignores it.
That explains why no house I have owned or looked at has ever conformed to extraneous codes.


I had looked for a state, city which these "codes" applied to. The first I ran across were New Zealand. However, they were from a linky within the linky (which did not make any mention of location).
https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Island_Sink_Plumbing.php

The two island sink photographs just above show a recent (2014) island sink installation in Franz Josef, New Zealand.



FWIW, building codes vary widely from state to state. Even from Chicago to a couple counties north in WI. Which is why Chicago has collapsing snow roofs on newer public building while WI does not.
AL does not have codes for 3 feet of snow on the roof.
WI does not have codes to withstand hurricane force winds. Nor 7.0 earthquakes. Nor for mudslides on the sides of mountains, with all vegetation removed.
AK does not have codes for tornado viability.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 5:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The pump has gone off two times that I know of since the laundry was finished. Once at around 1:00AM, and again at 9:00AM.

The cycles are now only 15 seconds compared to the 22 seconds before, but that's still a lot of water that wasn't being flushed out before the well was dug.

It's not going to be easy to hear it anymore. First, because it's a lot less noisy than it used to be. The relief valve is lower and not hitting an aluminum sheet I had installed along the end of the well to amplify it. And second because, at least for the next week, I'll have the window A/C on and the very loud fan pushing that cold air downstairs.

I was vaguely able to hear it at 1:00AM over the fan, but if I'm not actively listening for it I'm not going to notice it. I had turned the A/C off around 6:00AM because it got too cold so I had no problems hearing it at 9:00AM.



This is good news. Even after 5 times of forcing it out until the pump sucked air before making the alterations, it's still going off an average of at least 3 times per day, allowing water that never would have been able to make its way into the well get there now.

We're probably somewhere around 30 to 35 additional inches of water that has been removed from the well that was just sitting there before. (Or 34.9 to 40.7 gallons)

Maybe more.






It's nice knowing that as soon as water can get to it, it will be going where it needs to go instead of building up like a dam and making it go places that it shouldn't have been going.

The next numbers you'll want to know:
When a decent rain comes, not just sprinkles, start timing when the rain gets serious.
If you can zip down there and trip the pump real quick, letting it empty is a good starting place for the measurement.
Time how much delay there is from the start of serious rain until the first pump cycle.
Then, how long until the 2nd cycle.
When the rain ends, how long delay until the last cycle (if there is a pump cycle after end of rain).

These will be the numbers you can compare to in the future.




Also, when I said A/C condensate, I was mistaken. I thought you had A/C inside, not an exterior window. I meant the condensate from your dehumidifier, pouring into your well.


For the window A/C, do you have a rock with a flat-ish face? If so, place the rock on the spot the A/C drips to, with the flat side facing up and away from the house, about 30" or 45" from level. The velocity from the water drop should splatter it, and in the direction away from the basement wall, maybe on the hasta leaves or grass. This should not affect you drainage volume, it should actually evaporate.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 5:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
too tedious to quote



fify

You may have noticed that when I looked up Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, and Wisconsin SPECIFICALLY, Illinois and Indiana had both adopted some version of the IBC ... but weren't in the lists provided. (Minnesota was already on the list). In addition, out of curiosity and for my own information I looked up California and found it has also adopted the IBC, but has additional codes as well, due to things like earthquake hazards and droughts, that require special consideration. I already assumed there would be additional codes added to the IBC package for things like snow loads, tornadoes, hurricanes, and so forth. it doesn't mean those states haven't adopted the IBC as a baseline. It just means they added on to it.

Already noted from the link as having adopted the IBC: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia.

And I already found out that Indiana, Illinois, and California had adopted the IBC.

Out of curiosity, I looked up Idaho, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington .... have all adopted the IBC. Except for Wisconsin, so far every state I've looked at has adopted the IBC. By my count, so far, I've found that 33 of 50 states have adopted the IBC, with only 1 exception.

Now, I didn't look up all 50 states because I have no interest in trying to explain facts to someone who can't deal with them.

Those ones that weren't on the lists from the link look like they belong to the category "(and others)" mentioned.

Those would be the 30 states that you assumed all hadn't adopted the IBC just because they weren't mentioned by name. But that was a wrong assumption.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 5:51 PM

BRENDA


Got more retyping done on my book after I got back and got the dishes done. Nothing fancy for lunch just some bread and peanut butter.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 5:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Just plain bread and peanut butter?

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Monday, May 24, 2021 5:59 PM

SIGNYM

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JSF, there are PRACTICAL reasons for having vents on a drains, it's not just some numb-nuts bureaucratic code. Vents allow air- which is being displaced by draining water- to safely escape out the vent instead of having bubbles of sewer air coming up your drain.

But, by all means, do without!

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Monday, May 24, 2021 6:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I read all your posts. I'll reply to them later.


I grinded all of the interior kitchen harware with a copper wheel on my drill. Would have been a lot easier if I had a proper grinder attached to my work bench, but eventually it got done. Rinsed them all down, dried them, and then I got to spray painting. They've all got 4 light coats, without much time between (as per instructions) and then a 5th coat about 45 minutes later. I still have enough for touch ups if I need them, but that ought to do it. They look nice.

Mowed the back yard.

Turning the A/C on now, showering and relaxing for a bit before I go shopping.

It was a scorcher. Two more days in the 80's then it's down to the 60's on Thursday.



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Monday, May 24, 2021 9:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's a lot of yard work...

Any chance you could find another gardener to work with now? I know you find some enjoyment doing it, but it sounds like it's eating up a lot of your time Sigs.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

Yes, it's a very high-maintenance property!

I've tried to keep in touch with our former gardener, but he's so PO'd that we laid him off he refuses to answer my texts. The fact that we sold him a perfectly functioning car - smogged and with new AC- worth at least $500 for a buck, giving him what ppl need more than anything in LA which is transportation, apparently didn't get us much goodwill.

But I've seen him do that with other ppl who gave him oppty, getting pissed off and throwing it away, so I guess I don't take it personally. It's his problem, not mine.

A lot of maintenance is weeding, which is why I'm going the chemical route.

But my ultimate plan is to sculpt the front yard, especially the area with the star pine, to accommodate pathways for visual interest and maintenance, and put down a bunch of chipped bark mulch for weed suppression.

I may want to build in hardscape pathways later, but I already have a source for clean topsoil and chipped bark. At least then it won't be such an ongoing time suck and ican make progress there and elsewhere.



THat's a bummer. I thought he moved or something. I know you thought highly of him.

Would be nice if you could find somebody affordable to handle the mundane so you have more time and energy for your vision though. Good luck.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIX: Did any of them order the Special? The Special is only for special occasions.


Wow, where do you find these, SIX?? So well done!




Oh, that one is not a YouTube creation. That particular fever dream is from what might be the most
intelligent Sci-Fi movie of the 90's. Sadly, it's also one that almost nobody saw when it came
out. It's called eXistenZ.

If you haven't seen it, I HIGHLY recommend that you do.




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Monday, May 24, 2021 9:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The next numbers you'll want to know:
When a decent rain comes, not just sprinkles, start timing when the rain gets serious.
If you can zip down there and trip the pump real quick, letting it empty is a good starting place for the measurement.
Time how much delay there is from the start of serious rain until the first pump cycle.
Then, how long until the 2nd cycle.
When the rain ends, how long delay until the last cycle (if there is a pump cycle after end of rain).

These will be the numbers you can compare to in the future.



Yes. I agree. Will do.


Quote:

Also, when I said A/C condensate, I was mistaken. I thought you had A/C inside, not an exterior window. I meant the condensate from your dehumidifier, pouring into your well.


Oh. Gotcha.

Quote:

For the window A/C, do you have a rock with a flat-ish face? If so, place the rock on the spot the A/C drips to, with the flat side facing up and away from the house, about 30" or 45" from level. The velocity from the water drop should splatter it, and in the direction away from the basement wall, maybe on the hasta leaves or grass. This should not affect you drainage volume, it should actually evaporate.



I'm sure I could find something. I generally only turn the thing on at night though and leave it on overnight, so I don't know how much evap would happen without the sun and in very high humidity.

I was really shocked as well as pleased to see that thing pulling out well over a gallon overnight when I've got it on.

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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

It hit 90 degrees here today. It's going to be 44 degrees on Friday night.

Freakin' Chicago weather.



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Monday, May 24, 2021 11:31 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Just plain bread and peanut butter?



Yes and a glass of pepsi. Didn't feel like bringing anything back with me as the weather had bummed me out.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 2:29 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
lol

It hit 90 degrees here today. It's going to be 44 degrees on Friday night.

Freakin' Chicago weather.



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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

I texted my sis in WNY and she told me thatit had gotten up to 90 - all time high- last week.

Today, the weather overachieved the prediction. It was expected to get to 85but got up to 91. But it's a dry heat - SantaAnas- so our 91 isn't as bad as yours!

Took a bit of a vacation today, and I expect I'll be doing "indoor work" tomorrow. Was going to go to the nursery to see if I could find a sugar baby watermelon, but it was SO hot I decided it would be too unpleasant. Took the dog for her morning walk, did kitchen cleanup, threw peanuts out for the birds (which I try to do every MWF) and was rewarded by seeing two squirrels and a scrub jay, started filling out the account application was was bolloxed by some conflicting instructions so I had to call east coast to find out, finished sorting the mail with dear daughter, ran to the grocery store to pick up some fruit, bread, etc, and made dinner. So it was relatively speaking a relaxing day.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I was surprised to find out that it was 90 degrees. Except for mowing the lawn I was in the garage working for most of the day. But because we're getting those floating seeds all over the place I couldn't have the door open because painting was going on.

There were clouds covering the sun most of the day, so you didn't feel that oppressive heat directly, but you could cut the air with a knife it was so humid. When it gets that humid, it's miserable outside if it's in the low 80's.


Had my box fan out there while I was grinding with the front door cracked, but I had to turn it off and sweep all that floater crap up before I used the spray paint.



I think I'll build the two walls I need to build to put under the countertop where the washer used to be. It's just going to be a place to slide garbage bins under when It's all tiled now. It will be nice having the garbage right by the coffee maker instead of having to drag a dirty filter across the room to a garbage bin that's blocking the curio cabinet doors/drawers.




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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:10 AM

1KIKI

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The day before yesterday one of the things I did was order a whole bunch of environmentally safe chemicals and items - natural pyrethrin powder, diatomaceous earth, and cedar oil, for my annual war with the ants. They do seem to have a LOT more different kinds of products this year for ant control, so the 2 news things I'm trying are the diatomaceous earth and the cedar oil, for outside the house around the perimeter.

Yesterday I did 'daily' plus I changed all the air filters in the 3 air cleaners and also including in the room AC. I even washed out the 3 air cleaners carefully, inside and out, by hauling them to the utility sinks and using the spray hose and cleaning soln, begin careful to not wet any of the electrical connections or control electronics. This area is definitely very dusty and the filters get overloaded quickly, but I usually wash the air cleaners themselves only once a year. Yesterday was beastly hot, almost 100F here.


Today I'll do 'daily' plus wrangle the trash and recycling and their bins to and from the alley, and weekly laundry plus the shopping I do at that strip mall, if all goes according to plan.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 12:53 PM

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Off in a bit to see my doc. Though I know the results of my mammogram got to find out about my yearly visit to the vampires.

It is nice and dry right now but still taking an umbrella with me.

Later peeps.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 3:25 PM

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I also grabbed the parts for this version of the diagram, using only 4" pipe, assembled them and measured. It was 13" from the top of the chamber to the bottom of the 1 1/2" drain pipe (horizontal). The cost for the joints were about $25, and the 4' x 4" was $12, the 10' x 4" was $24.


xx___
x/ _ \
| | | |xxxx_____________________ downturned
| | | |xxx/ Depressurizationxxxx\ elbow
| | | |__/ Chamberxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\
| |xx\___xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\
| |xxxxxx\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| reducer
| |xxxxxxx\______________xxxxxxxxxx|
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\xxxxxxxxx|
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\_______ \xxxxxx
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\ \
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\ \
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| | gravityxxxxxx
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| | flowxxxxxxxxxx
| |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| | drainage
| | Pump
| | Pressurized
| | Water


When I measured that, I was using a 90 degree elbow with 4" on both ends.
The next day I was looking at the plumbing I did for my washing machine, and noticed I had used a reduction street elbow from 4" to 3". So I went back and tried the same measurement with this improved piece, and it was less than 10".

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:17 PM

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Since I didn't water yesterday, when I woke up at stupid o'clock I hose watered the veggie garden and potted plants in back, and spot watered the front along with the potted plants.

Plus daily dog walk,
menu and grocery list for the upcoming week (still trying to figure out which foods dear daughter can/can't eat (so far cleared for turkey, pork, beef, cheese, wheat, shirataki noodles, carrots and spinach),
dishwashing,
first trial at staining a scrap piece of wood (mahogany is a better match but despite using a "pretreatment" the stain still came out blotchy so we need to work on our technique)
prep dinner (Philly cheese on toast (chicken for me) with asparagus and cherries for desert)


Been avoiding the foods I'm allergic to and seem to feel better most of the time. Yesterday I had some ketchup and rice and today may be feeling it in my knees, hips and ankles.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:13 PM

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Hey Brenda - just saying hi!

Hey Signy - I hope you can figure out all the food problems for you and dd. You went out and watered ... really early AM? Before the sun came up? Even though I personally have never had a face-to-face coyote encounter where we were looking at each other (I've seen plenty of coyotes but they were otherwise occupied), some people were claiming a LOT of very aggressive coyote activity - like a coyote in the (6' tall block wall) fenced in backyard hunting the small dog pet and facing down the owner who was next to the dog. So I'm being cautious lately about the early AM/ late PM outdoors. But sometimes I too am up at stupid o'clock. So maybe I'll give watering a try.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:29 PM

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Hey Kiki.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:28 PM

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Hey everybody...

Had to call it early today. Wasn't feeling good after working out in the garage a few hours again.

Haven't been able to sleep, but I feel better. But there's another problem now. Huge amount of pressure in my lower back, wrapping around the front to my waist. Dull pain.

I haven't been doing anything that would injure my back that I can think of. But it sure feels like I did. Hope I sleep whatever this is off.



Sorry to hear about your 100 degree temps Kiki. Hope your weather improves Brenda.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:43 PM

1KIKI

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Back pain. I feel 'ya. It sucks.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 1:04 AM

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Yup...

I think I may have lucked out and it's just about the worst case of indigestion and gas I've had in I don't even know how long.

I'll spare you the details.

I think I'll live though.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:42 AM

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I guess we had .31" of rain last night and a power outage from a thunderstorm. I slept right through it.

I woke up with my computer shut down and the alarm clock blinking.




Haven't gone down and check the pump yet except from at a distance and seeing there's no water that I can see. That pump's been through plenty of outages before, so I'm not worried about that. Not hearing it go off at all. .31" isn't all that much, and with the new drainage I wouldn't expect it to be a problem.

We're supposed to get about 1.25" tomorrow and tomorrow night. That will be a better test.


ETA: Yeah. We got a good washing last night.

Sand pit was wet, as well as the hasta beds. Enough evidence of water from the three drainpipes to be satisfying. At least 1 foot of dry dirt along the foundation everywhere, including the sand pit. Rain must have been coming pretty much straight down without much wind pushing it up against the house anywhere.

Checked down in the well around 10:00AM and it was only about halfway up to where it needs to be to fire off. I've been working iside most of the day so far and haven't heard it go off yet, although I did spend some time outside putting fertilizer on the front lawn.

Hose fix seems to be working brilliantly. Not a drip out of the handle even when I've got it on full pressure. Nice to be able to reach everywhere on my lawn with a 100ft hose and full water pressure now... although I'm going to have to get something to wind it up with instead of just laying it all over the hasta bed. A grey 100 ft hose is a bit more conspicuous than a 50 ft black hose. I've had a hose reel thing installed on two green railroad ties that were put in the ground with cement since I got the place, but it comes as no surprise that it's broken and useless. Maybe I'll see if I can detach it and buy something the same size to replace it with rather than digging it out.

I still have the two buckets under the kitchen sink, but not a drop down there yet. I'll probably feel safe after a week or two more and finish the floor down there. Probably drill a hole to the crawlspace just to have it to feed a hose out through the kitchen window in an emergency down the line before I cover it up.

All non-lazy susan inside cabinet hardware installed. Waiting on paint to dry so I can flip the new wall for the garbage nook over as well as the sliding shelf that will be covered up with it before I can flip these over and finish painting them. I'll also probably want to get my contact paper down on that deep cabinet while it's all exposed and easy to get to before putting the wall up.


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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:45 PM

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I feel ya too Jack. It does suck.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:46 PM

BRENDA


Weather's been dry today and I made it to the vampires, now I just have to go back to my doc and see what they say. Also get a refill for my meds.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:47 PM

BRENDA


Think I'll have some ice cream.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cleaned up all of the helicopters on my curbs and both of my neighbor's curbs so they don't clog up the sewers tonight.



Just been doing some house cleaning right now until I can flip those two pieces over and give them the final coat for the night.

Then I'll be out doing some shopping and after that if I feel like doing it I'm going to give a few of the cabinets a quick vac and start putting the contact paper down. That's going to take perfectionist me a while to get done right.



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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I guess we had .31" of rain last night and a power outage from a thunderstorm. I slept right through it.

I woke up with my computer shut down and the alarm clock blinking.




Haven't gone down and check the pump yet except from at a distance and seeing there's no water that I can see. That pump's been through plenty of outages before, so I'm not worried about that. Not hearing it go off at all. .31" isn't all that much, and with the new drainage I wouldn't expect it to be a problem.


ETA: Yeah. We got a good washing last night.



Checked down in the well around 10:00AM and it was only about halfway up to where it needs to be to fire off. I've been working iside most of the day so far and haven't heard it go off yet, although I did spend some time outside putting fertilizer on the front lawn.



I still have the two buckets under the kitchen sink, but not a drop down there yet. I'll probably feel safe after a week or two more and finish the floor down there. Probably drill a hole to the crawlspace just to have it to feed a hose out through the kitchen window in an emergency down the line before I cover it up.

Have you picked up that $17 drill pump yet? Maybe you'll leave that right under the kitchen sink, leaving the hose hanging in the well.

Losing power. I think you already proved that there is the equivalent of about 20" of water in the drainage tile capacity, when the well gets up to 1 1/2" from the top rim of the well. Plus the 14 1/2" that the well could get up to that point after power outtage. And yousaw how slow the tile water took to get into the well from that point. So you would have some time to get your cordless drill out and pump overfill water out of the well.




Your new float setting may have given you an extra advantage that I wasn't thinking of before (I was looking for better solution).
I had previously said I expected to have a 10" range in the well pump cycle, and then dissipate the pressure and volume. And you said that for the past 6 years, you had a 7" range. And now it seems you likely have a 5" range.
10" of well depth would equal about 18 feet of 2" pipe.
7" was making about 14 feet of 2" pipe.
5" makes about 9 feet of water in 2" pipe.

The first 2-3' of pump discharge pipe is 1 1/2", and then it goes into 2" pipe (dissipating a little bit of pressure) - likely 5-6' of pipe before it leaves the crawlspace wall.
So, currently, water under pump pressure goes outside your wall for about 3-4 feet, before the pump stops, stopping pressure buildup, and then the 6-7' of pipe-filled water depressurizes and gravity drains all the way to the sewer line destination.
When the pump cycle was 7", there was about another 5" of exterior front sewer pipe which was full of water, holding and building pressure from the pump. Practically 3 times as much exterior pipe under pressure as there is now.
So that seems an improvement now.



Do you believe all of the front sewer exterior pipe is PVC? And you believe that tree roots went through 2" PVC pipe, 18" below the surface? And you had it rootered out - a straight shot from your basement wall, without turning any corner? Do you recall was was the distance the rooter had gone to find resistance, obstruction?


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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Been avoiding the foods I'm allergic to and seem to feel better most of the time. Yesterday I had some ketchup and rice and today may be feeling it in my knees, hips and ankles.

You allergic to ketchup? or tomatoes? or High Fructose Corn Syrup? Have you tired that real ketchup yet? Is the swelling in your joints considered to be RA?

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Have you picked up that $17 drill pump yet? Maybe you'll leave that right under the kitchen sink, leaving the hose hanging in the well.



No. I missed where you even posted that and didn't even know this was an option. I would have bought it while I was out tonight if I knew about it.

Quote:

Losing power. I think you already proved that there is the equivalent of about 20" of water in the drainage tile capacity, when the well gets up to 1 1/2" from the top rim of the well. Plus the 14 1/2" that the well could get up to that point after power outtage. And yousaw how slow the tile water took to get into the well from that point. So you would have some time to get your cordless drill out and pump overfill water out of the well.


Yeah. If I had an alternate means of putting it out during an emergency and it gets it out quicker than it's coming in, great. All the better if I can use a cordless drill that I currently have four 2 amp hour batteries and two 4 amp hour batteries to power it.


Quote:

Your new float setting may have given you an extra advantage that I wasn't thinking of before (I was looking for better solution).
I had previously said I expected to have a 10" range in the well pump cycle, and then dissipate the pressure and volume. And you said that for the past 6 years, you had a 7" range. And now it seems you likely have a 5" range.
10" of well depth would equal about 18 feet of 2" pipe.
7" was making about 14 feet of 2" pipe.
5" makes about 9 feet of water in 2" pipe.

The first 2-3' of pump discharge pipe is 1 1/2", and then it goes into 2" pipe (dissipating a little bit of pressure) - likely 5-6' of pipe before it leaves the crawlspace wall.
So, currently, water under pump pressure goes outside your wall for about 3-4 feet, before the pump stops, stopping pressure buildup, and then the 6-7' of pipe-filled water depressurizes and gravity drains all the way to the sewer line destination.
When the pump cycle was 7", there was about another 5" of exterior front sewer pipe which was full of water, holding and building pressure from the pump. Practically 3 times as much exterior pipe under pressure as there is now.
So that seems an improvement now.



Nice.


Quote:

Do you believe all of the front sewer exterior pipe is PVC?


No. I don't. If you look at the original images I put up, the pipe leaving the house isn't PVC. It's metal. The only PVC that I know is there for sure is the tube attached to the pump and the check-valve, the check valve up to an elbow, and a short length down to the metal pipe leaving the house. There is also the short length of PVC I added with the two rubber sleeves to fix the cracked pipe outside.

The clean-out is a 4" diameter PVC pipe, but after that I have no idea what the pipe is made of.

Quote:

And you believe that tree roots went through 2" PVC pipe, 18" below the surface?


I have zero idea what that was made of or how deep it is out there.

Quote:

And you had it rootered out - a straight shot from your basement wall, without turning any corner?


Straight shot from the 4" diameter clean-out, which was beyond the PVC/rubber sleeve fix I did.

Quote:

Do you recall was was the distance the rooter had gone to find resistance, obstruction?



No, but I'd guess it had to be somewhere around where the tree that is above it was located. But maybe if I was lucky it was further down by the street and it was from roots of a tree that was down there that was removed before I moved in.

Either way, at least 50 feet.

If you look at the drawing I made of the property, it doesn't go straight out to the street. It goes to the far corner of the street.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 11:12 PM

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I posted this on the 16th. And you quoted me the same day. You were probably thinking about your trip.
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I stopped by Home Depot today.

On the shelf I saw a nice 1/4 hp sump pump for $100. Good for pushing water 20 feet straight up (vertical). 6ix needs to go up 3 or 4 feet.
Also a nice pedestal pump with 1/3 hp for $90.
And a Drill Pump for $17. Good for water removal, in a bind.




It seems possible that solutions will not be enacted, so I will wrap up with a summary timeline of salient facts. Some errors may exist, but somebody else will need to suss that out. Some of this I did not learn until yesterday.

More than a decade ago, property was purchased.
House had no rain gutters.
Plot was on the verge of Flood Plain, and environs had drainage and low elevation issues, and yet, no rain gutters were installed.
House had no Sump Well or Sump Pump, but instead an open Septic/sewage well, and pump in it. Probably the best term for it would be an Upflush Pump, without macerator. Power rating unknown.
Drainage tile around foundation fed into this Septic well.
4 or 5 prior decades had established complete "settling" of the house.
Basement was prone to flooding, and oft wet and moldy.
And yet, no rain gutters.

At some point before 6 years ago, the Upflush Pump was replaced, again with unknown power rating.
No rain gutters were installed.

About 6 years ago, the submersible Upflush Pump was removed.
In it's place was put an overpowered pump for the purpose of removing water from the top of the dirt floor of the basement.
Since that time, the drainage tile has never again been allowed to drain, until perhaps this past week, when the water level was briefly lowered below the drain tile outlet. If the water in the foundation tiling ever evaporated or leaked down in the dirt below the foundation, it was kept full/flooded by laundry waste water and condensate.
This has maintained a flooded, waterlogged, saturated foundation for 6 years.
No rain gutters were installed.


After 5 years of having a house on a foundation of quicksand, many folk can understand what would happen. Evidence of the building sinking was posted in a picture last year in this thread - not sure which date. With the building having sunk about 1 1/2", the weight of the house was greater that the weight of the dirt lawn in front of the house, so the 2" front sewer pipe had been sheered off, near to the basement wall. The wall side of broken pipe was, IIRC, about 1 1/2" lower than the portion of pipe in the lawn.
This sinking into the ground affects all attached structures. The garage is not affected because it is detached. The structure and internal portions of the house have likely become twisted or torqued.
At that time, no rain gutters were installed.

Last fall, rain gutters were installed.


Currently, after 6 years of keeping the foundation submerged in water, the pump is still set to keep the drainage tile flooded. The proper power rating for this pump is far less than 1/3 hp, but a full 1.0 hp pump is sitting there. A Pedestal style pump would provide the greatest function and well volume, but a submersible is displacing all of the volume capacity of the well below the tile inlet tube.


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Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Been avoiding the foods I'm allergic to and seem to feel better most of the time. Yesterday I had some ketchup and rice and today may be feeling it in my knees, hips and ankles.

You allergic to ketchup? or tomatoes? or High Fructose Corn Syrup? Have you tired that real ketchup yet? Is the swelling in your joints considered to be RA?

Dr doesn't know if it's RA or something else, Tests for RA was only midly positive.

I've been tested for allergies and have an extensive list of things I'm allergic to (inhalation) plus eight foods including tomato, beef, rice, coffee, lettuce, potato, orange, and a couple of things I forget bc I don't eat them very often. But the test is incomplete bc there aren't solutions of ALL possible foods, so I find that I seem to have a bad reaction to all of the solinaceae (tomato, tomatillo, eggplant, potato and possibly their futher relations -peppers) and many of the citrus (orange, bergamot, grapefruit), black olives (also allergic to olive pollen) and who-knows-what-else.

If I stay strictly away from the foods I know I'm allergic to and their close relatives, I seem to do OK. Fortunately I can eat fish, chicken, turkey, pork, wheat, corn, just about every nut I've ever tried, beans, crucifers, curcurbits, etc. Unfortunately, dear daugther developed many food sensitivities after a bad gastrointestinal viral infection five years ago(kind of like I developed asthma after a bad viral URI when I was 20) and her food list is much more restricted than mine, and we're still trying to figure it out.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Have you picked up that $17 drill pump yet? Maybe you'll leave that right under the kitchen sink, leaving the hose hanging in the well.



No. I missed where you even posted that and didn't even know this was an option. I would have bought it while I was out tonight if I knew about it.

Quote:

Losing power. I think you already proved that there is the equivalent of about 20" of water in the drainage tile capacity, when the well gets up to 1 1/2" from the top rim of the well. Plus the 14 1/2" that the well could get up to that point after power outtage. And yousaw how slow the tile water took to get into the well from that point. So you would have some time to get your cordless drill out and pump overfill water out of the well.


Yeah. If I had an alternate means of putting it out during an emergency and it gets it out quicker than it's coming in, great. All the better if I can use a cordless drill that I currently have four 2 amp hour batteries and two 4 amp hour batteries to power it.


Quote:

Your new float setting may have given you an extra advantage that I wasn't thinking of before (I was looking for better solution).
I had previously said I expected to have a 10" range in the well pump cycle, and then dissipate the pressure and volume. And you said that for the past 6 years, you had a 7" range. And now it seems you likely have a 5" range.
10" of well depth would equal about 18 feet of 2" pipe.
7" was making about 14 feet of 2" pipe.
5" makes about 9 feet of water in 2" pipe.

The first 2-3' of pump discharge pipe is 1 1/2", and then it goes into 2" pipe (dissipating a little bit of pressure) - likely 5-6' of pipe before it leaves the crawlspace wall.
So, currently, water under pump pressure goes outside your wall for about 3-4 feet, before the pump stops, stopping pressure buildup, and then the 6-7' of pipe-filled water depressurizes and gravity drains all the way to the sewer line destination.
When the pump cycle was 7", there was about another 5" of exterior front sewer pipe which was full of water, holding and building pressure from the pump. Practically 3 times as much exterior pipe under pressure as there is now.
So that seems an improvement now.



Nice.


Quote:

Do you believe all of the front sewer exterior pipe is PVC?


No. I don't. If you look at the original images I put up, the pipe leaving the house isn't PVC. It's metal. The only PVC that I know is there for sure is the tube attached to the pump and the check-valve, the check valve up to an elbow, and a short length down to the metal pipe leaving the house. There is also the short length of PVC I added with the two rubber sleeves to fix the cracked pipe outside.

The clean-out is a 4" diameter PVC pipe, but after that I have no idea what the pipe is made of.

Quote:

And you believe that tree roots went through 2" PVC pipe, 18" below the surface?


I have zero idea what that was made of or how deep it is out there.

Quote:

And you had it rootered out - a straight shot from your basement wall, without turning any corner?


Straight shot from the 4" diameter clean-out, which was beyond the PVC/rubber sleeve fix I did.

Quote:

Do you recall was was the distance the rooter had gone to find resistance, obstruction?



No, but I'd guess it had to be somewhere around where the tree that is above it was located. But maybe if I was lucky it was further down by the street and it was from roots of a tree that was down there that was removed before I moved in.

Either way, at least 50 feet.

If you look at the drawing I made of the property, it doesn't go straight out to the street. It goes to the far corner of the street.

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I don't have a diagram to work from, so I hope this is all making sense to you.

Also, in my obervation of many houses, a cellar acts more like a boat and causes that portion of the house to lift, not sink, unless the cellar walls lack integrity and start to crumble.

But whether rising or sinking, it would make sense that your drainage line would shear off near the cellar wall and be at different height.

It would also make sense that there would be roots in your drainage pipe, bc - as I posted- silver maples are notorious water-seekers, We were constantly having the sewer line cleaned out because the silver maple which was about 15' away managed to break into the line (made of clay). along those lines, if you ever decide to replant any trees don't go with poplars, cottonwoods, or aspens either, since they are also notorious water-seekers. There are lists of trees rated for various problematic tendencies like raising sidewalks and breaking into sewer and drainage pipes, so if you're going to replant, do some internet researchfirst.

Anyway, it sounds like things are heading in the right direction. I sure hope so!

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 10:35 AM

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I posted this on the 16th. And you quoted me the same day. You were probably thinking about your trip.




Yeah. I went back a few pages and searched for "drill" and saw that not only did you post it but I had also quoted you posting it.

The trip was on my mind probably, as well as putting together something to try to get a refund on the last e-scooter my brother bought that failed and nearly killed him. And about 100 things I'm doing on the house. And finding a job. Worrying that I won't even be able to work since I refuse to get a vaccine. And just everything.

Like I said, I really appreciate your help and being able to bounce ideas off of you, but despite the fact I've had it pretty good over here for a while, I'm constantly under the gun. I'm still trying to dig myself out of a hole I'd been putting myself in for the better part of a decade.

You were overwhelming me with too much info at once. Too many ideas. I don't work fast. I'm extremely methodical in my approach to everything, and even though I'm good at multi-tasking I've got so many plates I'm trying to balance right now I might not always be prioritizing what should be prioritized.

I'm going to do a bit of research on those pumps. I found one for a similar price that uses a garden hose, but I'd rather find one that can use that clear tubing we talked about. I REALLY think having something like that on hand is a necessity and it's a real shame I didn't even know of their existence until last night.

Thanks for letting me know about them.





P.S. Yeah... That drill pump would have come in real handy two Halloweens ago when the power went out 1/2 hour before it got dark outside. I was bailing water for my life, using a large glass to fill up a 3 gallon bucket, crab walking to the exit of the crawl space, dumping it into the toilet, then going back down for more.

For light, I had about 5 LED flashlights laid out like a runway. I figured I'd be doing that until either the flashlights went out or my heart exploded. An hour and 45 minutes later the power came on, and out of exhaustion I fell to my back and just laid there in the nasty crawl space for a while.

I've since bought that 100ft heavy duty extension cord and hung the female end right by the outlet box for an easy switch, and used two beefy shelf holders bolted to the inside of the door frame to the crawl to wrap up everything that wasn't hung along the perimeter of the crawl. Then I made sure my generator was easy to get to and I regularly test it. It should be about 3 minutes tops for me to get that thing running when the power goes out when I need it now.

But that generator isn't going to do shit for me in the event the city sewers back up again. So that drill pump is going to be a cheap and easy way to make sure I can still get the water safely out of the house in another worst-case sceanario.


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Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't have a diagram to work from, so I hope this is all making sense to you.

Also, in my obervation of many houses, a cellar acts more like a boat and causes that portion of the house to lift, not sink, unless the cellar walls lack integrity and start to crumble.



That would make sense...

The nub that stuck out from the wall where the drain pipe was sheered off was higher than the pipe that hit the clean out before going to the street.

Incidentally, this might alter my feelings on another issue as well. I have always been under the assumption that my front porch slab sunk and was pulling on the columns attached to the overhang (the overhang I put the jacks underneath after detaching the columns last year).

Maybe that slab hasn't moved a single inch. It's possible the front of the house rose a bit and the slab, via the columns, was pulling the overhang down and not allowing it to rise like the rest of the house.

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But whether rising or sinking, it would make sense that your drainage line would shear off near the cellar wall and be at different height.


Yeah. I'm just thankful that there was at least 3" of nub to work with and it didn't shear right up against the foundation.

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It would also make sense that there would be roots in your drainage pipe, bc - as I posted- silver maples are notorious water-seekers, We were constantly having the sewer line cleaned out because the silver maple which was about 15' away managed to break into the line (made of clay).


Fortunately, it hasn't been a constant for me. The only reason I knew it was happening when it did was because I saw some vegetables outside the clean out one morning and the cap for the cleanout was on the ground. The water was rising out of the cleanout and not going down to the street.

That had to be 6 or 7 years ago now.

I regularly check that cleanout when I'm outside and hear the pump go off and there's no evidence that anything is backing up. It's probably just a matter of time, but so far so good still...

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along those lines, if you ever decide to replant any trees don't go with poplars, cottonwoods, or aspens either, since they are also notorious water-seekers. There are lists of trees rated for various problematic tendencies like raising sidewalks and breaking into sewer and drainage pipes, so if you're going to replant, do some internet researchfirst.


I'm not replanting ANYTHING... lol. I'm just going to work on making the yard look a lot healthier than it does now. Put my fertilizer down yesterday (I didn't have much weed and feed, unfortunately, and my big bag was the crabgrass stuff that I'm going to put down after the thaw next year. I'd got a great 1/2 off deal on damaged fertilizer bags when I worked at KMart and still had a lot left over).

I'm going to get the spray weed&feed from Spectracide for the weeds and do that next week. People rave about that stuff, and 3 bottles would be more than enough to do the entire front and back yard.

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Anyway, it sounds like things are heading in the right direction. I sure hope so!



I think it's finally coming together.


It's really a shame this big rain is coming tonight though since I finally got 3 of my friends to commit to coming together and playing pool.

I can't miss that. The 4 of us haven't been in a room together since my buddy's 40th birthday party going on 2 years ago now.



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Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:34 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well dang. I did the dishes last nite and ended up with a puddle under the sink. But I was too tired to track it down, so I mopped up and called it a night.

This AM I tracked it to a leaky pull-down faucet hose. But then when I got the pulldown hose nearly removed, I discovered that my undersink shut-offs don't shut off. I could try shutting off the whole house, ignore the undersink shutoffs, and try going from there, because I think replacing the hose should be easy enough, assuming there's a compatible replacement. But what the hell. I want legitimate undersink shut-offs. So I'm calling a plumber.

(And thank goodness I have a wet-dry vac!)


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Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:46 PM

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Out for a walk in a bit. Couple of things to do. It's dry right now.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Well dang. I did the dishes last nite and ended up with a puddle under the sink. But I was too tired to track it down, so I mopped up and called it a night.

This AM I tracked it to a leaky pull-down faucet hose. But then when I got the pulldown hose nearly removed, I discovered that my undersink shut-offs don't shut off. I could try shutting off the whole house, ignore the undersink shutoffs, and try going from there, because I think replacing the hose should be easy enough, assuming there's a compatible replacement. But what the hell. I want legitimate undersink shut-offs. So I'm calling a plumber.

(And thank goodness I have a wet-dry vac!)




Working under the sink isn't fun. Money well spent to pay somebody else to do it if you can afford to.

Yeah. You want good shut off valves for the sink for sure. It's a shame those things are made so poorly half the time.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:06 PM

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Contact paper and perfectionism don't mix well. At least the bottom of the large cabinet left of the sink is finally covered.

I think I'm just taking the next few hours off out of frustration and I'll get back to it tomorrow. I don't want to be pissed off when I'm out tonight.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:42 PM

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A friend was looking for a green pepper plant and I found some but they sold out really quickly. So I missed a chance to pick one up for her and now the growing season is almost over for them.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:44 PM

BRENDA


Rain came back today with some wind and I trashed another umbrella. Oh, well going to happen. Got my little bit of groceries done and something else.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:15 PM

SIGNYM

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1KIKI: Well dang. I did the dishes last nite and ended up with a puddle under the sink. But I was too tired to track it down, so I mopped up and called it a night.
This AM I tracked it to a leaky pull-down faucet hose. But then when I got the pulldown hose nearly removed, I discovered that my undersink shut-offs don't shut off. I could try shutting off the whole house, ignore the undersink shutoffs, and try going from there, because I think replacing the hose should be easy enough, assuming there's a compatible replacement. But what the hell. I want legitimate undersink shut-offs. So I'm calling a plumber.
(And thank goodness I have a wet-dry vac!)


SIX: Working under the sink isn't fun. Money well spent to pay somebody else to do it if you can afford to.
Yeah. You want good shut off valves for the sink for sure. It's a shame those things are made so poorly half the time.

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I hope this isn't a "small" plumbing problem that turns into a complete repipe. We've had a few like that!

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