In the garden, and RAIN!!!! by SIGNYM

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In the garden, and RAIN!!!!

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 17:55
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Thursday, December 30, 2021 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, so that can be quite a large group! Do 12 people play all together? Or do you break up into smaller groups?

Yes, a lot of people are recovering from Xmas, getting ready for tomorrow. I'm sure the snow didn't help, either.

It was pouring this AM and traffic was really light. I think for the holiday and weather-related reasons here too.

Well, have a good New Year's Eve, BRENDA! May the New Year be even better than the old!

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I think in some versions of the game you can play in one big group. But we break into smaller groups. 12 people means 3 tables with 4 players.

Some have company that managed to come in too and yes the weather definitely played into it.

It was dry today and the sun came out so it started to melt a little bit of the snow. It should be dry here tomorrow but Saturday a slim chance of snow then rain for the first week of January.

Have a good New Year's eve too, SIG and to your family as well.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 1:19 PM

Out soon for my last walk of 2021. Just a couple of things to do.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 4:44 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

This was supposed to be a la Nina year, but did we get rain this month!

This last storm we just had, the Santa Fe Dam (the closest official station to me) got about 3.5", and the storm before that it got almost 6". So far this month it got a bit over 9.5". But it's a few miles west of me which is closer to the ocean, and way up in the foothills, so it's probably not exactly representative of my location.

The next closest official station is further inland, and on flatland, which is Ontario (California, USA) International Airport which so far this month got 7.02".

I figure I'm somewhere between the 2. And it's still A LOT of rain for the month, a record month, from what I heard on the radio.

And right now, the hillside where I'm on is so wet in places the ground is loose mud that's over a foot deep. As much as we needed that rain, right now we need a break from it ... or I worry about the hillside coming down. This area doesn't get cleaned out regularly with a lot of rain, and it's laden with loose dirt, and hasn't been tested with rain like that, ever. So I'm happy to see that the next 10 days have a very slight chance of a small amount of rain falling, and we get to dry out.

"It never rains in California ... it pours, man it pours."

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Friday, December 31, 2021 5:12 PM

Back from my walk and lamb chops bought. Kitchen cupboard more user friendly now.

Just taking the rest of the afternoon off.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 5:24 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Happy New Year Brenda and Signy!

signing off for 2021 ...

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Friday, December 31, 2021 7:54 PM

My buddy and his dad came by and worked off a bit of that credit they owed me today.

We just installed a vinyl sheet floor in the kitchen.

It's the most expensive one they had, but I got a killer deal on it by buying a cutoff that was large enough for the room. It's a beautiful cobblestone pattern that made installing it a cinch compared to having to plan a layout with the standard faux tile grid pattern ones.

Once it was done, his dad who's been in the trades his entire life stepped back and couldn't stop talking about how great a job I did picking out the color scheme. Even the faux grout between the faux cobble stones matches the color of the non-accent wall perfectly and it all really makes those white cabinets pop.

This week's goal is to get the baseboard and door trim up, as well as build that half-wall between the stove and the blank space where the dishwasher used to be that now houses my garbage and recycle bins.

Then the only thing that still needs to be done is resurfacing the countertop.

I started this job a year ago this very day. So much work. So many photos to look through.

What a journey it's been.

Happy New Year.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 8:15 PM

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Oooh ooh!!

Pictures please!

I have not been able to make any progress, but I love reading about everyone else's!!!

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We had our SECOND major rain event this month. THIS time my rain gage didn't get knocked over, and I measured 2 3/4" accumulation over two days. Between the first atmospheric river - which I estimated at 2" - the drizzle in-between, and the second, we must have accumulated over 5" of rain this month in my area. Woohoo!

The aquifer recharge basins and the 7 dams up and down the San Gabriel River must all be full by now. I saw geese flying to the aquifer recharge basin on Paramount Blvd for their evening rest after feeding on grasses at a nearby schoolyard.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 8:46 PM

Wow.

It sucks you're getting it all at once, but it's a good thing that you're getting all that rain, right?

I may be able to wrangle up a picture or two.

I'll probably wait until the trim and wall is built and installed first though. As great as it looks, I had them leave the stove on the boards we used to protect the floor from the stove and fridge so I could get that done. If we moved it back I'd use that as an excuse to not finish the work, and by having the stove three feet from the wall in the middle of the floor it will motivate me to get it done this week. My old man already told me when I'm ready just to give him a call and he'll help me move whatever I need to.

First thing I did when they left and I cleaned up was pick up a few throw rugs for the high traffic area. I want this floor to look just as good 15 years from now as it does today. They were on clearance and the colors match exquisitely.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 11:25 PM

Another winter storm is heading my way for tomorrow and then hopefully some rain to get rid of some of the snow for next week.

Happy New Year for 2022.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:21 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Ten days of sunny to mostly sunny weather 60=70 deg daytime high.

THIS is the weather that I love!

May this New Year be better than the old!

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:07 PM

*Hugs* SIG.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:08 PM

Soon as I get it in gear first laundry of 2022 then a walk.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:53 PM

Jeez Sigs.... I'm sorry to hear that. :(

I hope it goes well for you.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Jeez Sigs.... I'm sorry to hear that. :(

I hope it goes well for you.

Me too! That was the reason for the vaccine and booster.

Meanwhile, diligently looking after my, and family's health. Got a new neuro for dear daughter and hubby after their old one passed away, and THESE ones are pursuing their neuro issues more aggressively. Also got a referral to for hubby to a pain doc bc of longstanding pinched-sciatic nerve at L3-L4 and piriformis, which he will follow up on. Of course, continuing to provide healthful meals considering family food allergies, IBS, and blood sugar control. And learning that puppy-wuppy had such a dental caries issue (many teeth extracted) and seeing how she aged so suddenly, I'm transitoning her to a raw food diet and even got a doggie toothbrush and toothpaste (chicken flavored, if you can believe it!). So hoping to restore us all to better health in the coming year!

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:39 PM

I hope you are okay Sig, am I gathering you have COVID? Despite all our lockdowns and restrictions, Omicron has us beat down here. I'm getting my booster on Tuesday.

Summer has finally arrived, 37 yesterday - phew too hot for me, and my air con is not yet installed. Another hottish day today and then back down to the 20s for the rest of the week. Garden is locking a bit wilted as I was away for almost a week.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I hope you are okay Sig, am I gathering you have COVID? Despite all our lockdowns and restrictions, Omicron has us beat down here. I'm getting my booster on Tuesday.

I told you a year and a half ago we're all getting it.

You threw all that time and your freedom away for nothing.

That's on you.

That booster isn't going to do anything for you or anybody around you.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I hope you are okay Sig, am I gathering you have COVID?

No. More serious.

So far, managed to avoid Covid thru diligent use of N95 when in public indoor spaces. Outdoors I don't bother to wear a mask. Breezes and sunshine seem to work, plus my dog is ona 7' leash and I generally don't get closer than that.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 7:58 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I'm going to foray into Ethiopian cooking. I used to work with an Ethiopian, and his wife ran a well-regarded restaurant before her business partner found a more lucrative job in hotel management and they closed the business.

She was a FANTASTIC cook, and did occasional catering from home, and I got a taste for Ethiopian food. I'm going to start with red lentils with berbere spice. Not up to making injira, so I'll have to start with naan or some other flatbread, and not ready to make spicy chicken stew (doro wat) so I'll start with something I CAN make (tandoori chicken) and not ready to make kitfo, but I CAN make prime rib, so it's going to be something of a mixed bag but I think it's going to be great!

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 11:15 PM

Lamb chops for New Year's Day supper were very good and have two left for tomorrow.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:24 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I hope you are okay Sig, am I gathering you have COVID?
No. More serious.

So far, managed to avoid Covid thru diligent use of N95 when in public indoor spaces. Outdoors I don't bother to wear a mask. Breezes and sunshine seem to work, plus my dog is ona 7' leash and I generally don't get closer than that.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Well I am sorry to hear that it is serious. Speedy recovery wishes to you.

I love Middle Eastern fare. I received an Ottolenhghi cook book for Xmas this year. Can't wait to try some of the mezze dishes,

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I hope you are okay Sig, am I gathering you have COVID?
No. More serious.

So far, managed to avoid Covid thru diligent use of N95 when in public indoor spaces. Outdoors I don't bother to wear a mask. Breezes and sunshine seem to work, plus my dog is ona 7' leash and I generally don't get closer than that.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Well I am sorry to hear that it is serious. Speedy recovery wishes to you.

I love Middle Eastern fare. I received an Ottolenhghi cook book for Xmas this year. Can't wait to try some of the mezze dishes,

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:15 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Despite all our lockdowns and restrictions, Omicron has us beat down here. I'm getting my booster on Tuesday.

I looked at your per-capita 'total deaths' chart here https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ , third chart down, which barely registers any deaths on the chart at all. I'd trade off the way we've been beat with the way you've been 'beat' any day!

Good on you. Your country kept a lot of people alive!

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:15 PM

Gonna have to buckle down and do some cutting on the table saw in the frigid cold, I'm afraid. Otherwise, from the weather reports, it looks like I'd have to wait at least a month before getting started on finishing my kitchen.

I think I've got my half-wall under the cabinet figured out. I still haven't figure out if I want to put some sort of legs under it that would be hidden by trim. It's going on top of the sheet vinyl and shouldn't be wedged in there, but at the same time I don't want it to float either since any heavy weight on the countertop offshoot is going to be supported by that wall. It's fine for putting regular countertop stuff on it... even a microwave, but when I was doing work there I kept leaning to hard on it and hearing small cracking noises because I forgot it didn't have good support anymore.

After that I can trim baseboard around the stove and finally get that back into place.

I'm only going to do the baseboard behind the fridge after putting the door casing up for now too. I still haven't figured out how I'm going to build the overlook to the basement yet and any trim I put up now would almost certainly be too long or too short. But at least I'll get the stuff done that I need to so I can have my appliances back where they've got to go.

I think I'm going to make some measurements to buy some of that hardboard I used for the sides of the cabinets that needed it as well as the bottom of the broken drawer. I think when I have my stove and fridge back in place, I want the wheels and legs resting on top of hardboard that is cut so you can't really notice it but wide enough to protect the floor.

This new flooring has padding underneath. Where the stove is on top of the boards my buddy's dad left with me to borrow is fine, but the wheels of the fridge have been making indentations in the top of the new flooring over the last day and a half for sure now.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 1:27 PM

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Ottolenhghi

I had to look that up.

Sounds YUMMY!

I've made some pretty good Middle Eastern dishes, my falafels are pretty good. Shawarma is on the list of "thing to try". Tried some Morrocan dishes, haven't quite got the hang of that yet, but working on it.

So many tasty traditions out there! It's fun to try them!

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 1:55 PM

Just a lazy Sunday around me. Still haven't seen the snow that the weather people are talking about and that is a good thing

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 4:04 PM

Lol I spelled his name wrong, so glad you found it. He is a bit of a sensation throughout the world currently. I love his recipes as so many tasty vegetarian ones.

Cooler today. I'm off to the beach with a friend for a morning swim, being the last public holiday until I'm back at work.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 10:38 PM

Got rain right now with a bit of wind.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 3:49 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Got rain right now with a bit of wind.

At least it's not snow?

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Monday, January 3, 2022 3:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gonna have to buckle down and do some cutting on the table saw in the frigid cold, I'm afraid. Otherwise, from the weather reports, it looks like I'd have to wait at least a month before getting started on finishing my kitchen.

I think I've got my half-wall under the cabinet figured out. I still haven't figure out if I want to put some sort of legs under it that would be hidden by trim. It's going on top of the sheet vinyl and shouldn't be wedged in there, but at the same time I don't want it to float either since any heavy weight on the countertop offshoot is going to be supported by that wall. It's fine for putting regular countertop stuff on it... even a microwave, but when I was doing work there I kept leaning to hard on it and hearing small cracking noises because I forgot it didn't have good support anymore.

After that I can trim baseboard around the stove and finally get that back into place.

I'm only going to do the baseboard behind the fridge after putting the door casing up for now too. I still haven't figured out how I'm going to build the overlook to the basement yet and any trim I put up now would almost certainly be too long or too short. But at least I'll get the stuff done that I need to so I can have my appliances back where they've got to go.

I think I'm going to make some measurements to buy some of that hardboard I used for the sides of the cabinets that needed it as well as the bottom of the broken drawer. I think when I have my stove and fridge back in place, I want the wheels and legs resting on top of hardboard that is cut so you can't really notice it but wide enough to protect the floor.

This new flooring has padding underneath. Where the stove is on top of the boards my buddy's dad left with me to borrow is fine, but the wheels of the fridge have been making indentations in the top of the new flooring over the last day and a half for sure now.

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Sounds like you have your work cut out for you, but it'll be good to have your appliances back in place.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 1:26 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Got rain right now with a bit of wind.
At least it's not snow?

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Pity would be no more,
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Very true and there was enough rain over night that a good portion of the snow is gone. Just need my umbrella today.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 1:27 PM

Out for my walk on a wet Monday morning. Need a couple of things.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 4:40 PM

Was heavy rain on my walk back but its stopped. All things done including paper recycling. Going to have to start doing that in smaller bits.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 8:46 PM

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If I'm up to it I'm going to make Ethiopian red lentils tomorrow.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 9:50 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I hope you feel well tomorrow, Signy! If you do make the lentils, let us know what you think.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 10:29 PM

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Well,I did a trial run today, and there are things I would change.

But first, bc of my altered sense of taste, I'm not the one to judge how close it comes to Belai***'s cooking.

So, I would not use red lentils again. They're very small, don't stand up to cooking bc they turn into mush. I was looking for something with more body.

Mainly, I was disappointed in the commercial berbere spice. It was too "sharp" and "dry"... too much cardamon perhaps... not enough aromatic/sweet/savory notes. It was definitely too hot for dear daughter! As I recall B's cooking, while it was spiced it wasn't necessarily hot.

So, I know there are as many different versions of berbere as there are cooks, but this was not as expected. There is another spice that is used- a finishing spice with cinnamon and sweeter spices. Perhaps that would be the thing to add, and reduce the berbere.

I was hoping for a bright red color. Didn't get that either! Possibly another thing would be to add some sweet paprika.

I would definitely use more tomato paste, and cook the onions, roast peppers and tomato longer, to a smoother consistency, and add the lentils later to preserve the lentil form. And add the spices to the veggy, NOT, the lentils, to give more time for the flavors to blend during cooking

Overall, hubby liked it, but- like I said, not as I expected. Needs more work.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 11:33 PM

Weather calling for rain mixed with snow or if you prefer snow mixed with rain for tomorrow. Have to see. Right now it is dry out.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:30 AM

About 9:15pm, a small thunder and lighting storm rolled through my area as well as rain and snow. Though the temp is sitting at 1C.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 3:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sounds like you have your work cut out for you, but it'll be good to have your appliances back in place.

Yeah. I haven't done anything with it yet. I haven't adjusted to the cold weather yet since it's been unseasonably warm up until 3 days ago and the bottom fell out. Going to be zero tomorrow night around here.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:06 PM

Out for my walk soon and taking my cane because of the snow which arrived here last night.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 5:59 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Snow. BLEH!

If you have to pay for all your green trees, at least it should be with rain.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Snow. BLEH!

If you have to pay for all your green trees, at least it should be with rain.

Did get a bit of rain on my way home but then snow mixed with it. Now at 4:15pm all there is snow as it is sticking a bit to my balcony. Unless it changes back to rain tonight.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:16 PM

More snow heading my way tomorrow night through Thursday morning according to the weather people.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 1:06 PM

Out to do things on another boots and cane day.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:22 PM

Well, one person I know is all set for their knee replacement surgery. I wished him well and told him to listen to the docs.

Expecting another big dump of snow tonight. Have to see if it happens. Sitting at a balmy -1C right now temp wise.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Well, one person I know is all set for their knee replacement surgery. I wished him well and told him to listen to the docs.

Expecting another big dump of snow tonight. Have to see if it happens. Sitting at a balmy -1C right now temp wise.

I hope you don't HAVE to go out tomorrow!

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:33 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So I managed to get on my feet today, and did a kitchen cleanup. Still not trusting myself on my feet enuf to walk the dog, but I will go out with dear daughter and try to build back some muscle and strength.

Did a quick dinner yesterday, since I had leftover roast pork in the freezer. Hubby had a very southern dinner: pulled pork, onion rings and (tried something new) oven "fried" okra, which he really liked and went back for seconds.

Dear daughter not partial to tomato, so she had "fried" rice (really, just rice and mixed veggies with Teriyaki-style sauce) and pork, satay style. She didn't care for the "fried" okra, altho she likes okra in soup.

Today I think I'll do another easy dinner: beef stew, since the beef is already trimmed and cut. I'll save the complicated dinner for some other day.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:35 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Did get a bit of rain on my way home but then snow mixed with it. Now at 4:15pm all there is snow as it is sticking a bit to my balcony. Unless it changes back to rain tonight.

IDK about you, but I hate snow, and ice. I know the planet has to pay for green plants somehow, so, theoretically, snow, and ice, are good things. I just truly dislike them, personally.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:39 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Your simple dinners are miles above my coking!

Today I cooked some ground pork - in a covered small pot, in a 325F oven to cook the grease out - and ate it plain for brunch, with some coffee. I probably should have thrown on some ketsup, the amazing Ronald Reagan vegetable.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 6:56 PM

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Well, one person I know is all set for their knee replacement surgery. I wished him well and told him to listen to the docs.

Expecting another big dump of snow tonight. Have to see if it happens. Sitting at a balmy -1C right now temp wise.
I hope you don't HAVE to go out tomorrow!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

First mah jong game of the new year unless it is cancelled because of the snow. Have to wait and see if I get a phone call this evening or not.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Did get a bit of rain on my way home but then snow mixed with it. Now at 4:15pm all there is snow as it is sticking a bit to my balcony. Unless it changes back to rain tonight.
IDK about you, but I hate snow, and ice. I know the planet has to pay for green plants somehow, so, theoretically, snow, and ice, are good things. I just truly dislike them, personally.

I don't mind walking on just snow but when ice is under it or covering the sidewalks then I don't like walking on it. I had my cane with me today and I will tomorrow.

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