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GREAT!

My area - not so much. There was ~1.5" predicted, a bit over a half inch in my cachepot rain gauge, and ~1" at the Santa Fe Dam. So you flatlanders once again got more than the foothills.

STILL! I'm glad it wasn't a total bust and you and probably others got so much more!

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Oh, I didn't mean you had to love La Bamaba.

I was just posting a rhetorical question. Dude just oozes charisma.


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No worries. I know he does. Which is the main reason I watch "Prodigal Son". He is a fiiiiiiine specimen of manhood.

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Yeah... I think my comments about overpopulation are only going to be taken seriously when large portions of industrialized parts of the world start feeling the water pinch.

California would already be seriously feeling it if it weren't for the water projects and bottled water.

I found it odd that things looked worse now (outside of the home) but I never hear anything about water shortages in California today that were causing severe usage crackdowns. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Yeah... I think my comments about overpopulation are only going to be taken seriously when large portions of industrialized parts of the world start feeling the water pinch.

California would already be seriously feeling it if it weren't for the water projects and bottled water.

I found it odd that things looked worse now (outside of the home) but I never hear anything about water shortages in California today that were causing severe usage crackdowns. Thanks for clearing that up.

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I forgot to mention - and it's a really BIG thing I forgot to mention - that 80% of California's water use (statewide average) goes not to green lawns, people flushing their toilets too often or taking luxurious showers, or aluminum smelting ... but to agriculture. Seriously, people grow RICE in California. So, if there are usage cutbacks to be made, it would be best to make them there.

Still, the lack of rain as I mentioned directly affects the natural environment. And even CentCal and NoCal are in deep drought. That's why you read about such gosh-awful fires in "wine country", or about 700-year old Sequoias being killed, or towns like Paradise being wiped off the map.



ETA: An interesting twist on the water wars. Water has always been a hostility-engendering issue in the arid west.
Citing climate change, LADWP ends free water deal for Long Valley ranchers and sparks anger among conservationists
https://news.yahoo.com/citing-climate-change-ladwp-ends-140007969.html
The LADWP has said the water giveaways have become an extravagance due to changes in the climate — specifically, less snowpack, shorter rainy seasons and periods of prolonged drought.

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Oh, I didn't mean you had to love La Bamaba.

I was just posting a rhetorical question. Dude just oozes charisma.


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No worries. I know he does. Which is the main reason I watch "Prodigal Son". He is a fiiiiiiine specimen of manhood.

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I'm glad I never heard anything bad about the guy over the years. He just always seemed like the type of dude who would make a great friend.

I probably could count on one hand the people in the sports and entertainment industry I feel that way about.


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That has to be some sort of BS "green" thing, right?

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Wow... 80% goes to growing shit in California that doesn't need to be grown in California?

That has to be some sort of BS "green" thing, right? Think of all the oil that's not used transporting stuff when it's home grown.

Nevermind the fact that we import billions of bottles of drinking water every year, or the fact that we're depleting other state's sources of natural water, because GREEN!

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I didn't mean an ACTUAL green thing. I meant a BS "green" thing.

A pointless endeavor that not only doesn't save the environment but does greater long term harm to it. But on the face it looks like a great thing is being done and mama nature is being saved thanks to California Democrats.

Yanno. Something to make the low IQ Twitter idiots retweet endlessly.



I think there's got to be something to that. Otherwise, you'd need a bit more info getting from A to B when correlating ancient water claims to 80% of California's water usage going to grow crops that shouldn't be grown there and would be cheaper and better for the environment if they were grown in climates that they're supposed to grow in.

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My posts weren't incoherent.

My brilliance just isn't easily picked up on sometimes. I'm connecting A to Z where most people struggle to get from A to B.

I dunno. It's not like I don't talk to people on the phone every day and nobody else has said that I sound dumb.

Frem tried explaining this to other people long, long ago. He got me. I miss that dude. My biggest regret here was putting myself on his shit list.



I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

I might have been wrong in that assumption, but the idea itself seems pretty high concept to me and easy to figure out.


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My posts weren't incoherent.

My brilliance just isn't easily picked up on sometimes. I'm connecting A to Z where most people struggle to get from A to B.

I dunno. It's not like I don't talk to people on the phone every day and nobody else has said that I sound dumb.

Frem tried explaining this to other people long, long ago. He got me. I miss that dude. My biggest regret here was putting myself on his shit list.



I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

I might have been wrong in that assumption, but the idea itself seems pretty high concept to me and easy to figure out.


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SIX, large vested interests have historically-based water rights. Those happened to be ranches and, later on, agriculture when water was discovered underground. Changing those rights and making water more expensive for growing water-thirsty crops like rice, cotton, alfalfa would mean upsetting many MANY wealthy constituents and EVERYBODY who knows anything about the environment knows it's a clusterfucked situation.

NOBODY who has any interest in the environment has made any claims whatsoever that growing rice in the Delta or alfalfa in Imperial Valley is "green" in any way. Environmentalists are usually either pushing to change California's water practices or working to mitigate the damage, or both. Like, for example, ensuring that enough water is reserved to allow continued flow thru CA rivers to preserve salmon spawning and other riparian species.

BTW it's not like saving water in agriculture would save the trees in the Sierras. We don't have a forest-watering program. The only thing that would help the forest would be better forest management. And maybe beavers.

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I'm struggling to think how it's difficult for an outsider of California to just assume that 80% of the water used in California is on growing crops within the state, that shouldn't be grown within the state, while millions of acres of forests burn is just some plot of Californian politicians to keep up an illusion that they're being green by growing the crops inside the state instead of having them shipped in by fleets of trucks that use gas.

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OK, I got it this time SIX.

Just as an interesting sideways note, the water that's spread across CA cropland evaporates, gets lofted up, and rains down on Colorado.

I guess some of it comes back to us in our allotment of Colorado River water.

Beavers. We need more of them!

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So, helped hubby in the garage yesterday, the day before spent the WHOLE day in the kitchen butchering chickens, making a big batch of green salsa for freezing (I think you all would like it, it's about 8 cups of mostly jalapeno peppers seeded, a whole big bunch of cilantro, juice of two limes, 10 cloves of garlic, a teaspoon of salt, and a small onion, blenderized ... tastes great on Mexican and Indian food), cooking chicken carcasses to make broth and dog food, and roasting a big picnic roast for bbq pork (one meal) and pork satay (another meal)

Today was all about wrestling with our cable company. We had asked them to stop our cable TV service mid November. I know they bill ahead so I was not surprised to see it on our Dec bill, but might unhappy to see they were STILL billing us in January! So they finally ended our TV service, but also shut off our internet ... grrrr.... fortunately not our phone, so one more call to get service restored. Also sweeping and vacuuming and mail sorting. Tomorrow dusting and more garage work.

One of these days, yardwork.


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SIX, you have my sympathy!

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More rain but things to do.

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My brother is well on his way to full blown alcoholism again. I've known for about a year that he would drink a few beers on occasion, but any attempts to try to talk him out of it were met with little success. He was right about two things... he wasn't trying to hide anything this time, and he wasn't causing any problems IRL or online this time and seemed to be handling it since he was only drinking a few beers every now and then and staying away from the hard liquor. He's also an adult, and I'm not his daddy.

In the last 10 or so days, I broke my own rule I imposed on him that I will not talk to him while he's drinking. I don't mean to enable him, but with his only transportation being ebikes that can't be ridden during the dead of winter, and all of his social outlets including church being shut down indefinitely, he's pretty fucked up.

But last night was it for me. I missed his early call because I was in the middle of working. Called him back later and he didn't answer and left me a VM when I was back working and he clearly sounded shitty. I shouldn't have called him back, but I did. By the time I reached him he was annihilated. I asked him "are you alright? You don't sound good." And he said something along the lines of "yeah, well that's just the way things go". If he's drinking beer to get that drunk, he's drinking around the levels I used to drink. I think he's back to the vodka.



Now I'm pretty sure I know why he doesn't want to come to my house for a few weeks this spring/summer. He knows good goddamned well he's not going to be drinking while he's here.


I'm going to call him early today. I'm not going to preach to him. I'm just going to let him know never to call me again when he's drinking and that if I happen to call him up while he's even had a single sip of anything not to answer the phone.

There's nothing I can do for somebody who doesn't want to help themselves, and I have no interest in talking to him if he's going to be doing that.


It looks as though Covid is claiming another victim.


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More rain but things to do.

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It's just not right.

While you're hoping for a dry spell, in my area we're 4 1/3 inches behind in rain so far this year, and no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.

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More rain but things to do.

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It's just not right.

While you're hoping for a dry spell, in my area we're 4 1/3 inches behind in rain so far this year, and no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.

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