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The biggest drop in greenhouse gas emissions came in 2008 due to Bush the Deux crashing the global economy. After that - which was Obama, if anyone is counting - they just kept on rising with nary a bobble.

And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460

Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.

Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.

Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").

Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.

Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.

Quantify, wherever possible.

If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.

Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.

Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?

http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm

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As we all know,

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Donald Trump spent many months last year trying to

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Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts. (in this case the evidence in the testimony disproves this statement)
(because of that, every following statement should be read with the understanding that this requirement was failed: If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.)
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy. (or caters to your hatreds)

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Ukraine to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden’s work

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for a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma Holdings.

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was to imply that (a) Hunter was employed solely to curry favor with Joe Biden, and (b) Joe Biden therefore treated Burisma favorably when he was vice president.

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but Trump tried and tried

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to extort

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Ukrainian officials into insinuating it anyway. This failed, and eventually led to impeachment charges in Congress.

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Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.


So I gave up trying to parse the MANY MANY problems that cause Sagan's baloney detection kit to peg out on this article.


I don't know SECOND - how do YOU like to regurgitate your propaganda?


Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for my Boxing Day walk in a bit.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for my Boxing Day walk in a bit.

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Out for my Boxing Day walk in a bit.

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It was a wet one. But the fresh air did me good and I got a couple of things done.

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It was a wet one. But the fresh air did me good and I got a couple of things done.

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Good for you!

I finally got an explanation of the origin of "boxing day" in Britain: The day after Christmas, the deacons and/or priests open up the collection boxes for the poor, and people are supposed to donate. It has since taken on a more secular meaning. Something about shopping.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It may be a soggy day here too. Or not. Maybe tomorrow?

There is something truly bonked about Wunderground forecasts when it comes to rain. Today, they predict "mostly cloudy" with a zero percent chance of rain and 0.46" rainfall accumulation. Tommorrow, they predict 50-100% chance of rain, showers, and a 0.33" accumulation.

How do you get 0.46" accumulation from zero pct chance and "partly cloud"? So the program that they use to predict "accumulation" is definitely NOT the program that they use to predict amount of cloudiness and chance of rain!

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

re painting the insides of cabinets - unless you're absolutely CERTAIN that the paint will dry hard with no tack at all, and stay that way 100% of the time for eternity, i'd say no. or you might find your dishes fusing to the paint, and when you pull the dishes up, some paint will come with them.

or you could try milk paint w/out tung oil.

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Now that kitty has freed my other hand, I can do 2-handed typing and caps ...

I didn't post much b/c my Christmas efforts were extremely paltry.


As for the rain - BLESSED RAIN! - my area got about half an inch. And yesterday evening, there was one really long peal of thunder, which happens rarely here.

All we need to do in terms of rain is do that half-inch again 48 more times and my area will be at normal.

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No, I just think patterns have changed. It used to be that rains came in from the SW and would hit the southern slopes of the San Gabriels, and dump their water there. Now they come in from the NW and I'm in the rain shadow.

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Cool link! I bookmarked it.

Directly to your west and east places got 2" more or less, while north and south got less. So you might have been in a very narrow rainband.

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No, I just think patterns have changed. It used to be that rains came in from the SW and would hit the southern slopes of the San Gabriels, and dump their water there. Now they come in from the NW and I'm in the rain shadow.

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Prolly something hinky with where I'm placing it, because looking at LADWP rain gage map, nobody near me got more than 1.6". FWIW most of the foothills got over 1.5" and Agoura got over 2".

https://dpw.lacounty.gov/wrd/rainfall/#

But you're right- the distribution is unusual. The high deserts (N side of the SGs and SBs) is dry, but the foothills didn't get more than anyone else. My guess is it came directly from the west.

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Brenda, fwiw I spent about 2 hours on the phone, most of it on hold or navigating phone menus, and got nowhere.

At least you got something done!

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Oh, btw Signy, on your map that big area outlined in red - that was the Bobcat fire. It started in Azusa and burned northward in a (on average) 17 miles wide swath of the foothills and the Angeles National Forest, clear up the San Gabriel mountain range, and all the way down the other side, and into the desert. It looks like it took out a quarter of the whole Angeles National Forest.

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Yeah, totally awesome link SIX!

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Nice link!

Thanks!

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Nice link!
Thanks!


SIX: No problem. I've become VERY accustomed to using that link during the spring unfortunately.

It's pretty insane how accurate they are too, down to the block by block view. (You can scroll the view down to your house if you haven't figured that out yet).

I remember fuming one day earlier this year when I had more water in the basement after I was in the middle of a half-mile radius dump of 2.5" of rain that would have all but completely missed me if I had lived only 1 mile away in literally any direction.

Sometimes it's hard to shake the feeling that you've got a rain cloud over your head when you've got topographical evidence backing you up.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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No work for me today. Boss called and she isn't feeling good. So I am out for a walk in all the lovely rain in a bit.

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Im glad she warned you away. The most contagious thing going around right now is Covid-19, so if she's got a virus it's unlikely to be anything else.

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Im glad she warned you away. The most contagious thing going around right now is Covid-19, so if she's got a virus it's unlikely to be anything else.

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I'd say it's still very likely to be one of dozens of other things. Colds and the flu are still very much a thing. So is insomnia and food poisoning, as well as just a case of the seasonal "mehs". Depression in winter of 2020 is probably worse than it has ever been for a lot of people in Western culture who are too young to remember things like Nam.

I'm not telling anybody not to play it safe if that's how they want to roll, but let's not pretend that the lockdowns eradicated everything but the one thing we've supposedly been trying to prevent spreading.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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I doubt it is depression Jack. Religious types don't get depressed as they have god on their side.

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And I know enough about depression this year Jack. It's bitten me enough times thank you very much.

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Nah. Anybody who's religious that tells you that they don't get depressed are lying through their teeth. What a wonder drug God would be if that were actually the case though.

Everybody has problems. 2020 has just really sucked for everybody. Most churches around here have been closed for nearly 2 months again too, and Christmas celebrations were almost non-existent, so I'd imagine that feeling like God has your back is in pretty short supply these days.

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Oh, I know and these two would never admit to that feeling anyways.

Churches across Canada I think have been closed longer than that. But in BC a couple in the Valley have been fined pretty heavy for breaking health orders.

There were a couple of virtual things that happened in BC and some drive through stuff. But yeah quiet.

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You might want to put some feelers out for other avenues of employment if that's the case. When I was mentioning the "seasonal mehs" (SAD), I was kind of thinking that maybe with the way things have been their business has been hit particularly hard this year and if she's not feeling like working maybe she's just deciding it isn't worth it. Maybe they're planning their exit strategy.

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I am thinking on things. He's completely retired now but she's still practicing medicine some, though she works mostly in clinics and that has taken a hit. She's on staff at a retirement home and does that remotely. She is into her early 70s now and I will just have to see what happens.

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And I know enough about depression this year Jack. It's bitten me enough times thank you very much.

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I hear ya. Going through a bout of it myself at the moment. Trying to shake out of it, but this one's got a pretty good grip on me.

Hang in there.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Fog and rain here right now. Massive snow and avalanche warnings about the back country. Hopefully people won't be stupid enough to try and go skiing, hiking or whatever. But you never know.

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