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I've got 3 aunts and a grandma who have died of breast cancer. I have one aunt who is still fighting against it.

Unless they're all really good at keeping secrets, none of them had abortions. The chances that the 4 aunts all had abortions and nobody knew it are astronomically small. I'll bet my life that my grandma didn't.

Women do die of breast cancer without having an abortion first. You do know this, right?


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Sounds like you have a strong family history of breast cancer. There are two genes that, when mutated, are primarily responsible for breast cancer called ... appropriately... BRCA1 and BRCA2, but there are also 7 other genes associated with breast cancer.

If I were you, I'd suggest that my female relatives get tested at least for BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations, which bumps up cancer risk from an average of 13pct to a whopping 80pct!

These genes are responsible for DNA repair, so if your DNA gets damaged it doesn't get fixed.

This affects men, too. SIX, if you have a mutated BRCA1 gene, you have an 8pct lifetime risk of getting breast cancer (yes, men have breast tissue too) but if you have an abnormal BRCA2 gene your risk of prostate cancer is SEVEN TIMES normal. And since prostate cancer is the most common cancer among men (except for skin cancers), it could be a significant lifetime risk for you, too!

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Enjoy it, Brenda. Getting toward that time a year again and we got to take them where we can get them.

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Very true and I reckon by about 7pm this evening the clouds will really start rolling in and then rain. Trees are already short of their leaves.

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That sounds very autumnal. Too many days of gray skies with nothing to look at except bare leaves is so dreary.

But, I do like those sunny, breezy autumn days. I hope you have many of those!

And I still like snow. Having lived in socal almost since I graduated from university means I never got burned out in the experience of having to get back and forth to work in it and, at my age, shoveling snow was fun. The quiet landscapes and sparkling snow, and especially Xmas lights shining thru and on the snow made up for the blizzards, mush, ice, shoveling and general pain in the *assedness of winter.

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Enjoy it, Brenda. Getting toward that time a year again and we got to take them where we can get them.

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Very true and I reckon by about 7pm this evening the clouds will really start rolling in and then rain. Trees are already short of their leaves.

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That sounds very autumnal. Too many days of gray skies with nothing to look at except bare leaves is so dreary.

But, I do like those sunny, breezy autumn days. I hope you have many of those!

And I still like snow. Having lived in socal almost since I graduated from university means I never got burned out in the experience of having to get back and forth to work in it and, at my age, shoveling snow was fun. The quiet landscapes and sparkling snow, and especially Xmas lights shining thru and on the snow made up for the blizzards, mush, ice, shoveling and general pain in the *assedness of winter.

At my age, tho, I would probably want to escape.

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Today was the first day we had sun since last Friday.

Even then, it was hard to enjoy it since when I went out running errands I had bright sun beating down in my eyes, but couldn't wear sunglasses because my wipers were also on while we were getting poured on at the same time.

Did make for a beautiful rainbow to behold, ending right down the center line of my street when I got home though.




I don't really mind fall except seeing how quickly the days get short and knowing what's coming.

Especially hearing how expensive it's going to cost to heat this year. I'll probably be keeping it at a high of 58 this year, which I haven't done for 3 or 4 years now.

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I was musing on the percent of US women who'll get breast cancer in their lifetime. For some reason I thought the figure was 1 in 10. But nah! I told myself. That's too high. So I looked it up. It's actually more than 1 in 10, it's almost 13% of all women.

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About 16 per 1,000 women in America had abortions in 2018. It was 29.3 per 1,000 in the 80s. So in any 10 year span, more than 15% of women have abortions.
But the breast cancer rate is only 13%.

First pregnancy abortions were already known to be the highest correlation with breast cancer. Sounds like it still is the case, despite the denials from SJWs.

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By now, it should be pretty apparent that neither JSF or I or about 100,000 million other Americans trust anything the medical community has to say about anything.

Throw a ".gov" on the end of that URL and the trust plummets even further.

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Although I finished with the fact that SJWs were denying it, I did not choose to include "cue denial by PC activist in 3...2...1..."
Think I missed the opportunity? But the reply was right on que.
And she even included the PC-scrubbed-of-inconvenient-facts linky which I implied but did not specify.

Back when that correlation was first learned, there was a huge storm of PC funds being thrown at gobs of new "studies" with pre-conclusions to disprove the facts. Overwhelming resources to thwart the reality and facts. But the real world facts have continued to prove out the correlation known long ago. Almost funny, if it wasn't so sad. So much "anti-breast-cancer" money thrown at getting more women breast cancer, it is a shame.

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I ran across some more info. Even Breast Cancer activists are getting sloppy, letting slip some actual facts instead of their PC mantra.

https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer-statistics/
Of the nations with the highest rates of breast cancer, US apparently ranks 22nd.
On that list, curious how you don't see Brazil, Poland, Columbia, Mexico, Spain, Israel. Israel seems, from what I gather, to encourage offspring. The rest of those are highly Catholic nations.

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Of the 10 nations with the greatest percentage of Catholics, only Italy ranks in the top 25 of breast cancer nations.



Golly gee whiz, the nations with the lowest abortion rates also have the lowest breast cancer rates? Say it ain't so, Sally.

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I've got 3 aunts and a grandma who have died of breast cancer. I have one aunt who is still fighting against it.

Unless they're all really good at keeping secrets, none of them had abortions. The chances that the 4 aunts all had abortions and nobody knew it are astronomically small. I'll bet my life that my grandma didn't.

Women do die of breast cancer without having an abortion first. You do know this, right?


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So, o just looked it up. The average lifetime risk for prostate cancer for men is 13pct, just like the average lifetime risk for women is 13pct for breast cancer.

If your risk is seven times higher with BRCA+2 mutation, that's a wopping 90+pct risk!

Can be detected with PSA (prostate specific antigen) screening, via blood samples.

The overall risk for men is high lifetime exposure to testosterone. Men who started producing testosterone early (longer lifetime exposure) tend to have shorter legs relative to height, bc once they start puberty the growth plates in arm and bone legs fuse and stop growing bone length.

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It definitely sounds like fall up in the more northern US and southern Canada!

I hate winter, btw if it involves snow+cold. To me either one is more tolerable without the other. Snow just makes everything except being inside more ... difficult. Going out, driving, and walking, and just getting around involves so much more than simply doing. And being cold is sheer misery. Either snow, or cold would be so much more tolerable wihtout the other.

And then there's the very short days up that way. Down here in SoCal day length doesn't change all that much. But up there it really makes a difference! Down here in SoCal the longest day is about 14.5h, and the shortest day is of course 9.5h. But up near Portland the longest day is 15.75h and the shortest day is a mere 8.25h! And then there's all the winter storms to add to the gloom. How dreary.

Still, one pays for all that green summer and the beautiful blue summer twilights somehow.

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Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.

My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.

A space heater could cost me a fortune to run since I'd be heating the whole house with it. As expensive as natural gas is going to be this winter, it would still cost more to heat the place with electric.

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It definitely sounds like fall up in the more northern US and southern Canada!

I hate winter, btw if it involves snow+cold. To me either one is more tolerable without the other. Snow just makes everything except being inside more ... difficult. Going out, driving, and walking, and just getting around involves so much more than simply doing. And being cold is sheer misery. Either snow, or cold would be so much more tolerable wihtout the other.

And then there's the very short days up that way. Down here in SoCal day length doesn't change all that much. But up there it really makes a difference! Down here in SoCal the longest day is about 14.5h, and the shortest day is of course 9.5h. But up near Portland the longest day is 15.75h and the shortest day is a mere 8.25h! And then there's all the winter storms to add to the gloom. How dreary.

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Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.

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Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.

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I don't think I understand your concern.

I think your bathroom must be between the 2 bedrooms, right? Neither of your bedrooms has water, pipes in the walls, right?

I think your heater is currently in the attic.
Most heating systems have one vent in a common area, which does not have a shutter on the vent. Often the kitchen, but I don't recall where yours is. The rest of the vents would have a shutter, and/or valve in the ducting.
Basements generally gravitate to about 55 degrees, so don't need a huge amount of heating. Unless you are spending a bunch of time there.
If you close your bedrooms, and the heating vents in them, then you can heat just the living room and kitchen mostly, with a little bit of basement.

Heat rises, so residual diffusion would let some heat into the bedrooms anyhow. Most humans sleep best with a cooler environment - just tuck in with covers, comforter, blanket.
Heating just LR and K, plus bathroom seems reasonable. If not enough heat in one area, a fan to help pull out the heat from a vent can help.

Why do you need to heat more than the LR, K, bathroom?

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JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
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Who raised you, boy?


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First pregnancy is the first full cycle of powerful hormone storms, in specific stages, over a specific time frame. When this cycle is interrupted in a way evolution did not anticipate, the hormone sequence, which is supposed to stop or counter whatever the prior hormone release did, is disrupted. Uncontrolled hormone release sequence results.
I do not recall that the full term but stillborn was specifically identified as increasing risk, but subsequent studies would indicate that the lack of breastfeeding would increase risk.

The studies I recall had indicated that miscarriage was equally increasing risk as induced abortions, but now I read that other studies have indicated miscarriages are not as high risk - perhaps evolution has found a way to work around that.
Remember, this was all supposed to be about the first pregancy, as I recall - much of what I am reading now does not differentiate between first and any other following pregnancy. I have not heard specifically of any study which stated that non-first pregnancies had any effect on risk, whether they were completed births, or stillbirths, or miscarriages, or induced abortions.

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You have spent the past 30 years erasing, scrubbing, obfuscating that facts, remember? Hard to find the stuff you scrubbed.

But let's try one of your beloved .gov sites:

https://www.cancer.gov/types/breast/abortion-miscarriage-risk

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The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some (politically correct) studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results.

Early age at first term birth is related to lifetime decrease in breast cancer risk.

The additional long-term protective effect of young age at subsequent term pregnancies is not as strong as for the first term pregnancy.

One of the particiapants was not adequately PC, and was more interested in solving brest cancer than in perpetuating breast cancer like the rest of the participants and other deniers:
The participant remains "convinced that the weight of available evidence suggests a real, independent, positive association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk." In a general statement, the participant noted that the workshop summary report contained no comment of dissent.





Persistence in other searches:
https://abortionrisks.org/index.php?title=Cancer_Risk_Associated_With_
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"Between 45-50% of U.S. women undergo induced abortion of their first pregnancy each year. It is well established that an early full-term childbirth has a protective effect against breast cancer in women."

"The researchers also stated that " data suggested an increased risk associated with abortion contrary to the reduction in risk associated with full-term births.""

"Data gathered from an international-case control study of breast cancer and age at birth found that there was a 3.5% increase of risk for every one year increase of age at first birth. "

"In a case-control study involving eight population-based cancer registries in the United States, it was found that the age at first full-term pregnancy exerted a strong influence on the risk of breast cancer."

" those with a history of abortion exhibited a 29% increased risk if the incomplete pregnancy occurred before first birth"

"In a reversal of the NCI panel opinion that abortion was not linked breast cancer, this new study (including leading researchers who previously questioned the link) identifies abortion as a consistent risk factor, associated with a 40% increased risk"

" an induced abortion before a first full-term pregnancy was 2.06 times more likely to result in breast cancer compared with controls"

"In a series of 63 pregnant patients at the Mayo Clinic, a 5-year survival of 43% was reported in the interrupted pregnancy group compared to 59% in the full-term pregnancy group. "

"A meta-analysis of 28 published reports which included specific data on induced abortion and breast cancer incidence concluded that there was an independent risk of 30-50% for breast cancer as a result of induced abortion."

"Among women who had been pregnant at least once, the overall risk of breast cancer among women who had experienced an induced abortion was 50% higher which was statistically significant. "

"It is well known that a second major round of breast tissue growth occurs during the first trimester of a woman's first pregnancy; that full development of this tissue into secretory cells requires a full-term pregnancy, that pregnancy promotes the vascularization of breast tissue, and that a woman's breast is qualitatively transformed by her first full-term pregnancy, resulting in a much higher ratio of differentiated to undifferentiated cells--If a woman's first pregnancy resulted in a first trimester abortion, the dramatic rise in undifferentiated cells that takes place during the first trimester would not be followed by the marked differentiation occurring during the second and third trimesters. The consequent sharp rise in the number of vulnerable cells would thus elevate the breast cancer risk."

"In a study of genetic markers in premenopausal breast tumors, it was found that tumors from patients with any abortions before a first full-term pregnancy were 26 times more likely to show amplification for the INT2 gene which was an indication of faster tumor growth and lower survival."

"n a Canadian study of 154 pregnant women with breast cancer, 20% of the 116 patients who carried their children to term were ultimately cured of their cancer, 40% of the 13 patients who spontaneously aborted were cured, but none of the 21 patients who had a "therapeutic" abortion survived. It was concluded that a "therapeutic" abortion did not confer any benefit and may reduce survival."

" the multiple logistic estimates of the odds ratio for breast cancer among women under 40 years of age, between 41-49 years and over 50 years was 1.5, 2.8, and 4.7 respectively among women with a history of induced abortions compared to women with no history of induced abortions."

"Those with a history of induced abortion as determined by fetal death records had a 1.9 odds ratio compared with controls."

"a first- trimester abortion before a first full-term pregnancy was associated with a 2.4-fold increase in risk of breast cancer."

" A new study done on women in Turkey who had abortions had a 66 percent increased risk of contracting breast cancer. Women having a spontaneuous abortion, or miscarriage were not at an elevated risk."



https://rtl.org/educational-materials/abortion-breast-cancer-link/

"One study which appeared in the International Journal of Epidemiology in 1989 and relied on New York state medical records reported that abortion increased a woman’s risk of getting breast cancer by 90%."

"In 1996, Dr. Joel Brind combined the statistics from 23 different worldwide studies and found a 30% increase of breast cancer risk among women who chose abortion after already giving birth and a 50% increase of breast cancer risk among women who chose abortion before giving birth."

"A study done on African-American women by researchers at Howard University showed that African-American women over 50 were almost 5 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had abortions compared with women who had never received an abortion."

"It is also universally recognized by experts that having a first full-term birth at an early age lowers a woman’s risk of getting breast cancer. Another study published in the Lancet found that breast feeding is another way women can lower their risk of breast cancer. (5) Women who abort their first pregnancy don’t get the protective effects of a first full-term pregnancy and don’t receive the protective effects of breast feeding."



https://www.cmf.org.uk/resources/publications/content/?context=article
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"The majority of studies published since 1957 do in fact show a clear association; but there is also clear evidence of attempts to cover this up through ignoring, concealing or misclassifying incriminating data. "

"The earliest study linking induced abortion with later development of breast cancer was published in Japan in 1957.[4] Women who had had abortions carried a 2.6 relative or 160% increased risk compared with women who had not had abortions."

"Data is deliberately concealed: An Australian study looked at risk factors, including abortion, for breast cancer but failed to report on the abortion factor.[11] The data only came to light in another small 1995 metaanalysis by a French group; they looked at the Australian figures and calculated a 160% increased risk of breast cancer after abortion.[12] In fact abortion was the strongest risk factor but the original researchers had concealed their findings."



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I don't remember if I ever mentioned anything in here about my recent computer acquisitions...

I have yet to recieve in the post an all in one computer that is going to replace the one I got from my brother years ago that has been driving me nuts recently with the constant slowdown and/or complete non-responsiveness at times. That thing should fly compared to my current one after I put the SSD I bought a few years ago into it and get it all set up.

I also bought two desktops from some dude on Craigslist. They're old business PCs. One of them blows away even the new AIO I've got coming, while the other one is right about on par with it, specs wise. I wasn't expecting much, but boy was I shocked at how well they both work. They're the first PC's I've ever had with SSD drives, and these things FLY. Even the lower spec one is better than any PC I've ever owned. It's amazing being able to install an OS in under 10 minutes, and have a computer that boots up and shuts down in mere seconds.

They're so tiny. And it's amazing what newer PCs are capable of doing with only a 240 Watt power supply available to them. My last home made PC had a 700 Watt power supply. They always run at the full wattage, so that thing would burn up over 2 kilowatt hours every 3 hours it was turned on.

The lesser one is going to be my aunts first computer. I've been trying to get her to buy an entry level one for months ever since she got a smart phone and I was able to shut down my internet and stream movies to my TV and use my computer for youtube and email by using her unlimited 5G phone as a hotspot.

We're going to set it up in her bedroom and use her flat screen TV as the monitor, just like I've done with mine in my living room.

Got a few wifi USB nubs on the way so I don't need to have a 12ft wire going to my TV stand and she can connect hers to her phone.

Both of those desktops combined, including the wifi, were cheaper than the AIO, and that was already dirt cheap.

Huge upgrade to my quality of life and soon to be one for my aunt who doesn't even understand yet how cool this is going to be, and it hardly cost me anything except about a day's worth of work getting them set up and backed up proper.

Had I bought these three as recertified refurbs, it would have been over a thousand bucks. I didn't spend 1/4th that.

Unless the prices for chips ever become reasonable again, it's possible that my days of building PCs are done. The price of a middling level Ryzen CPU alone is just about as much as I paid for all three of these computers.

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Long story short, my conern is money.


Winter bills are a different story, and even though I keep it fairly cold in the house, my largest winter bill so far was around $210.

That was with good natural gas prices. If we see a huge increase this year like they're predicting, it's going to be an expensive winter heating season.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

If nothing else, I hope the sound of the rain as you go to sleep is enjoyable.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.

It's making me reconsider my plan here.

Had I known I was going to be getting two really nice desktops for near-nothing only several days later, I probably wouldn't have bought it. My TV in my living room is big enough where I'd have no problem using that as my monitor even from across the room if I get a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, so I don't really need an AIO on my coffee table like I've become accustomed to over the years.

Not that I have much furniture upstairs, but this AIO could be a TV/Computer combo in the small bedroom. I'm even considering buying another of those tiny desktops for myself when I get one for my friend, assuming the guy still has two left. That could be put on the TV in the master bedroom, and just basically be a backup in case any of the other ones fail over time.

I've got a lot of options now. I didn't realize how quickly the tech world had been passing me by. I never would have suspected I could get machines capable of doing what these things do for so little money in 2021.


But yeah.... I don't think a 24" AIO is going to work on my coffee table.




Maybe if it were an HP AIO with a low center of gravity, but those DELL AIO's come on a stand that probably wouldn't take to kindly to me swinging my coffee table all over the floor when I'm vacuuming or just moving it out of the way on the rare occasion that I'm watching something on the TV.

Hell.....

Now that I think about it, maybe I could just mount the AIO to the far wall in the porch when I get it remodeled. I don't really want to put a giant TV out there that would entice somebody to break my shiny new windows to steal. It's small enough where I think the chances of that happening would be pretty low, but it is still large enough to put a game on or something while I have people over for poker night (yes... that will be a thing when I finally get my house in shape for it).

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