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Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:24 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'll be damned... I've got two Catalytic Converters. The guy I've been watching do YouTube videos either didn't know that, or didn't bother mentioning it because that CAT isn't going to make you fail the test. At least, I don't think it will... The 2nd one is really far downstream and close to the muffler, way past the 2nd O2 sensor. So I'm not sure how it would be able to even be tested. But if I'm wrong and that's why the CAT test isn't initiating, I may have to bite the bullet and have somebody give my flex pipe a proper weld. At least 95% of the emissions is making it all the way down-pipe right now, but I know it can't be all of it with my temporary patch job. The only reason I figured that out is because I was watching another auto guy I like talking about how to clean your cat and he simply threw his in a bucket with dish detergent in it overnight, and I recognized the part from the back of my car. I probably won't be able to reach and remove it with my ramps. Might have to ask around for some good jacks/stands. I'm downloading (what I believe) is the service manual now. Time to do some real research. If I get this to work after upping the performance beyond my expectations so far, I might just have to look into figuring out how to fix the A/C. I could probably get another 5 to 10 years out of this car. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Republican congressman Tom Rice reveals he and his family have coronavirus - two weeks after he refused to wear a mask on the House floor I'll start wearing a mask when I join your brain damaged buddies tearing down Thomas Jefferson monuments and throwing molotov cocktails at police cars. But thanks for the advice. Oh, BTW... Friends of yours, Ted? They all had good careers. They just wasted their lives. Hope it was worth it. Future leaders of the world, I'm sure. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:34 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, June 16, 2020 5:22 PM
BRENDA
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Do not get me going on cell phones. I got rid of the last one I had because I now have a landline. I will not have one again. Quote:Good for you. I don't know what's worse these days, living with a cell phone in your life, or the annoyance other people have for you when they find out that you don't have one, which pops up again any time they want to text something to you and you have to remind them of that fact. Just kidding. Having a cell phone is worse.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Do not get me going on cell phones. I got rid of the last one I had because I now have a landline. I will not have one again.
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Quote:That doesn't really appeal to me as I like music on when I am working on my computer and I know I could do both when out. But I like to not be worrying about the time and stuff if I get caught up in something. I doubt anyone would do that for me. And I think Best Buy up here does sell some refurbished stuff. Like I said I am going to a store on Wednesday at least that is the plan. Also want to hit up a bookstore in this mall as well. Kinda kill 2 birds with one stone thing.
Tuesday, June 16, 2020 5:58 PM
Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I will let you know what I find out tomorrow after my little trip.
Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:42 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:46 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I will let you know what I find out tomorrow after my little trip. Cool. ;) Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:53 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:55 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Anyways got out to Best Buy and started off by talking to someone who works for Microsoft and he told me what someone in London Drugs told me. I explained that I was talking about a desktop and he said to talk to someone from Best Buy.
Quote:The young woman who works at Best Buy once I basically explained the problem again said that I need the number for my mother board then I can order a new internet card online.
Quote:The card has to be an exact fit. Well, as we all know I can't do that and I mean the ordering online, so I went to see what they have in the way of desktops.
Quote:Most of it is for gaming which I am not doing. Also a tower is too heavy to bring back on the bus for me.
Quote:Am thinking at the rate I am going I will have to order a tower through a local store then get a new mouse and keyboard and monitor.
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:53 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2020 11:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Hey Brenda. I want to preface this reply by saying PLEASE don't take it like I'm angry or even frustrated with you, or that I'm talking down to you. I know that both of my grandmothers have been taken advantage of by people in the past, and that makes me FUME when I find out about it after the fact. I feel that this is what happened to you today and I'm glad you weren't pressured into buying anything.Quote: No worries. I went into Best Buy to ask questions only. Had no intentions of buying anything without info. Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Anyways got out to Best Buy and started off by talking to someone who works for Microsoft and he told me what someone in London Drugs told me. I explained that I was talking about a desktop and he said to talk to someone from Best Buy. Quote:I'm severely confused by this statement, for several reasons.... 1. You're talking to somebody at a drug store about fixing your computer? 2. There are Microsoft employees in Best Buys where you live? (I have to ask on that second one especially since there are A LOT of people worldwide that pretend to be Microsoft employees and they are in fact scammers. I've just never heard of them operating out of a Best Buy before today).Quote: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys. 2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section. Quote:The young woman who works at Best Buy once I basically explained the problem again said that I need the number for my mother board then I can order a new internet card online. [quote}Wrong. That is absolutely wrong. There is zero evidence that there is anything wrong with your internet connectivity at this point. It is always possible that your internet could be a problem as well, but without being able to have a working screen, we can't even be sure you have a keyboard problem yet. Chances are very good your internet is just fine. I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. Quote:If at any point we were able to get the entire computer up and running again with output to the screen and found out at this point that you needed an internet solution, they make cheap USB network adapters that you can get for under $20 to connect to the internet that are universal to all computers and you won't need to know any motherboard information or worry about getting the correct card for your motherboard. She either has no clue how to do her job, or she's trying to sell you something that you don't need. Please forget any advice she gave you about anything today. Okay. But I am getting a little confused again. Quote:The card has to be an exact fit. Well, as we all know I can't do that and I mean the ordering online, so I went to see what they have in the way of desktops. Quote:Yes. Any cards you get (if you need one) will have to be an exact fit. And because your system is so old, that will be tricky and in some cases even impossible to do now. This is why I haven't even directed you to investigate anything inside of the PC itself. Not because I don't think you're not capable of doing internal work yourself if directed properly, but because the computer isn't really worth saving if it came to that. Especially since you don't care about anything that is on there currently. I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB. Quote:This is why I suggested getting a monitor first. If we find out after you have a working monitor that the computer still doesn't work and isn't worth saving, you can use that same new monitor on a new desktop or laptop you buy afterward. Any other stuff that Best Buy is trying to sell you might not (and probably won't) be useful if you need to buy a new computer. I guess then I should think about the monitor first then go from there. Best Buy didn't try to sell me anything else. When I asked about Desk tops all the girl did was point to where they had 1 tower that would be useful to me and I had a look at their monitors which most were for gaming. Quote:Most of it is for gaming which I am not doing. Also a tower is too heavy to bring back on the bus for me. Quote:Yes. You don't need anything gaming related. Best Buy HUGELY over-inflates their prices, and I would never recommend that anybody buy a computer there unless there was a huge sale. If you absolutely HAD to buy something there, I would recommend their absolute cheapest system they had to offer. With what you need a computer for, it would be sufficient and you'd even notice an improvement in performance from the old machine you're used to. No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least. Quote:Am thinking at the rate I am going I will have to order a tower through a local store then get a new mouse and keyboard and monitor. Quote:I know it's not possible, but I really wish that you had somebody you trusted that could help you order something through Amazon. I could do some research and I'd be able to get you a fantastic deal on something that would suit your needs compared to anything that you'd get at Best Buy. Before you commit to anything, maybe you should check out what that local store can offer you and get back to me with what they say they'll sell you and at what price. Unfortunately, I think you're going to be overpaying one way or another since you can't shop online. But we can still try to figure out what the best deal is and get the computer that will work the best for you. Again, sorry if I came off dickish at all in this reply. Not my intent. Do Right, Be Right. :) I wish I could get some help too. But like I said I called my IT guy over a week ago and left a message. So, I am stuck doing things on my own(as per usual) and piece by piece. I was thinking of going back into the store again tomorrow and grilling them again. I need it explained to me more carefully but sometimes I'm not sure I'm completely understanding. I think I mentioned this up thread that the one monitor London Drugs have was $129 Canadian so with taxes I am probably looking at $160 Canadian. Though Walmart had a monitor for $88 Canadian and that would be about $100 Canadian with taxes. No, you don't Jack. You are trying to help me and sometimes I just not sure if my brain is really understanding what you are telling me.
Quote: No worries. I went into Best Buy to ask questions only. Had no intentions of buying anything without info. Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Anyways got out to Best Buy and started off by talking to someone who works for Microsoft and he told me what someone in London Drugs told me. I explained that I was talking about a desktop and he said to talk to someone from Best Buy. Quote:I'm severely confused by this statement, for several reasons.... 1. You're talking to somebody at a drug store about fixing your computer? 2. There are Microsoft employees in Best Buys where you live? (I have to ask on that second one especially since there are A LOT of people worldwide that pretend to be Microsoft employees and they are in fact scammers. I've just never heard of them operating out of a Best Buy before today).Quote: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys. 2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section. Quote:The young woman who works at Best Buy once I basically explained the problem again said that I need the number for my mother board then I can order a new internet card online. [quote}Wrong. That is absolutely wrong. There is zero evidence that there is anything wrong with your internet connectivity at this point. It is always possible that your internet could be a problem as well, but without being able to have a working screen, we can't even be sure you have a keyboard problem yet. Chances are very good your internet is just fine. I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. Quote:If at any point we were able to get the entire computer up and running again with output to the screen and found out at this point that you needed an internet solution, they make cheap USB network adapters that you can get for under $20 to connect to the internet that are universal to all computers and you won't need to know any motherboard information or worry about getting the correct card for your motherboard. She either has no clue how to do her job, or she's trying to sell you something that you don't need. Please forget any advice she gave you about anything today. Okay. But I am getting a little confused again. Quote:The card has to be an exact fit. Well, as we all know I can't do that and I mean the ordering online, so I went to see what they have in the way of desktops. Quote:Yes. Any cards you get (if you need one) will have to be an exact fit. And because your system is so old, that will be tricky and in some cases even impossible to do now. This is why I haven't even directed you to investigate anything inside of the PC itself. Not because I don't think you're not capable of doing internal work yourself if directed properly, but because the computer isn't really worth saving if it came to that. Especially since you don't care about anything that is on there currently. I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB. Quote:This is why I suggested getting a monitor first. If we find out after you have a working monitor that the computer still doesn't work and isn't worth saving, you can use that same new monitor on a new desktop or laptop you buy afterward. Any other stuff that Best Buy is trying to sell you might not (and probably won't) be useful if you need to buy a new computer. I guess then I should think about the monitor first then go from there. Best Buy didn't try to sell me anything else. When I asked about Desk tops all the girl did was point to where they had 1 tower that would be useful to me and I had a look at their monitors which most were for gaming. Quote:Most of it is for gaming which I am not doing. Also a tower is too heavy to bring back on the bus for me. Quote:Yes. You don't need anything gaming related. Best Buy HUGELY over-inflates their prices, and I would never recommend that anybody buy a computer there unless there was a huge sale. If you absolutely HAD to buy something there, I would recommend their absolute cheapest system they had to offer. With what you need a computer for, it would be sufficient and you'd even notice an improvement in performance from the old machine you're used to. No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least. Quote:Am thinking at the rate I am going I will have to order a tower through a local store then get a new mouse and keyboard and monitor. Quote:I know it's not possible, but I really wish that you had somebody you trusted that could help you order something through Amazon. I could do some research and I'd be able to get you a fantastic deal on something that would suit your needs compared to anything that you'd get at Best Buy. Before you commit to anything, maybe you should check out what that local store can offer you and get back to me with what they say they'll sell you and at what price. Unfortunately, I think you're going to be overpaying one way or another since you can't shop online. But we can still try to figure out what the best deal is and get the computer that will work the best for you. Again, sorry if I came off dickish at all in this reply. Not my intent. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:I'm severely confused by this statement, for several reasons.... 1. You're talking to somebody at a drug store about fixing your computer? 2. There are Microsoft employees in Best Buys where you live? (I have to ask on that second one especially since there are A LOT of people worldwide that pretend to be Microsoft employees and they are in fact scammers. I've just never heard of them operating out of a Best Buy before today).Quote: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys. 2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section. Quote:The young woman who works at Best Buy once I basically explained the problem again said that I need the number for my mother board then I can order a new internet card online. [quote}Wrong. That is absolutely wrong. There is zero evidence that there is anything wrong with your internet connectivity at this point. It is always possible that your internet could be a problem as well, but without being able to have a working screen, we can't even be sure you have a keyboard problem yet. Chances are very good your internet is just fine. I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. Quote:If at any point we were able to get the entire computer up and running again with output to the screen and found out at this point that you needed an internet solution, they make cheap USB network adapters that you can get for under $20 to connect to the internet that are universal to all computers and you won't need to know any motherboard information or worry about getting the correct card for your motherboard. She either has no clue how to do her job, or she's trying to sell you something that you don't need. Please forget any advice she gave you about anything today. Okay. But I am getting a little confused again. Quote:The card has to be an exact fit. Well, as we all know I can't do that and I mean the ordering online, so I went to see what they have in the way of desktops. Quote:Yes. Any cards you get (if you need one) will have to be an exact fit. And because your system is so old, that will be tricky and in some cases even impossible to do now. This is why I haven't even directed you to investigate anything inside of the PC itself. Not because I don't think you're not capable of doing internal work yourself if directed properly, but because the computer isn't really worth saving if it came to that. Especially since you don't care about anything that is on there currently. I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB. Quote:This is why I suggested getting a monitor first. If we find out after you have a working monitor that the computer still doesn't work and isn't worth saving, you can use that same new monitor on a new desktop or laptop you buy afterward. Any other stuff that Best Buy is trying to sell you might not (and probably won't) be useful if you need to buy a new computer. I guess then I should think about the monitor first then go from there. Best Buy didn't try to sell me anything else. When I asked about Desk tops all the girl did was point to where they had 1 tower that would be useful to me and I had a look at their monitors which most were for gaming. Quote:Most of it is for gaming which I am not doing. Also a tower is too heavy to bring back on the bus for me. Quote:Yes. You don't need anything gaming related. Best Buy HUGELY over-inflates their prices, and I would never recommend that anybody buy a computer there unless there was a huge sale. If you absolutely HAD to buy something there, I would recommend their absolute cheapest system they had to offer. With what you need a computer for, it would be sufficient and you'd even notice an improvement in performance from the old machine you're used to. No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least. Quote:Am thinking at the rate I am going I will have to order a tower through a local store then get a new mouse and keyboard and monitor.
Quote: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys. 2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section. Quote:The young woman who works at Best Buy once I basically explained the problem again said that I need the number for my mother board then I can order a new internet card online. [quote}Wrong. That is absolutely wrong. There is zero evidence that there is anything wrong with your internet connectivity at this point. It is always possible that your internet could be a problem as well, but without being able to have a working screen, we can't even be sure you have a keyboard problem yet. Chances are very good your internet is just fine.
Quote:If at any point we were able to get the entire computer up and running again with output to the screen and found out at this point that you needed an internet solution, they make cheap USB network adapters that you can get for under $20 to connect to the internet that are universal to all computers and you won't need to know any motherboard information or worry about getting the correct card for your motherboard. She either has no clue how to do her job, or she's trying to sell you something that you don't need. Please forget any advice she gave you about anything today.
Quote:Yes. Any cards you get (if you need one) will have to be an exact fit. And because your system is so old, that will be tricky and in some cases even impossible to do now. This is why I haven't even directed you to investigate anything inside of the PC itself. Not because I don't think you're not capable of doing internal work yourself if directed properly, but because the computer isn't really worth saving if it came to that. Especially since you don't care about anything that is on there currently.
Quote:This is why I suggested getting a monitor first. If we find out after you have a working monitor that the computer still doesn't work and isn't worth saving, you can use that same new monitor on a new desktop or laptop you buy afterward. Any other stuff that Best Buy is trying to sell you might not (and probably won't) be useful if you need to buy a new computer.
Quote:Yes. You don't need anything gaming related. Best Buy HUGELY over-inflates their prices, and I would never recommend that anybody buy a computer there unless there was a huge sale. If you absolutely HAD to buy something there, I would recommend their absolute cheapest system they had to offer. With what you need a computer for, it would be sufficient and you'd even notice an improvement in performance from the old machine you're used to.
Quote:I know it's not possible, but I really wish that you had somebody you trusted that could help you order something through Amazon. I could do some research and I'd be able to get you a fantastic deal on something that would suit your needs compared to anything that you'd get at Best Buy. Before you commit to anything, maybe you should check out what that local store can offer you and get back to me with what they say they'll sell you and at what price. Unfortunately, I think you're going to be overpaying one way or another since you can't shop online. But we can still try to figure out what the best deal is and get the computer that will work the best for you. Again, sorry if I came off dickish at all in this reply. Not my intent. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys.
Quote:2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section.
Quote:I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case.
Quote:Okay. But I am getting a little confused again.
Quote:I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB.
Quote:I guess then I should think about the monitor first then go from there.
Quote:Best Buy didn't try to sell me anything else. When I asked about Desk tops all the girl did was point to where they had 1 tower that would be useful to me and I had a look at their monitors which most were for gaming.
Quote:No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least.
Quote:I wish I could get some help too. But like I said I called my IT guy over a week ago and left a message. So, I am stuck doing things on my own(as per usual) and piece by piece. I was thinking of going back into the store again tomorrow and grilling them again. I need it explained to me more carefully but sometimes I'm not sure I'm completely understanding. I think I mentioned this up thread that the one monitor London Drugs have was $129 Canadian so with taxes I am probably looking at $160 Canadian. Though Walmart had a monitor for $88 Canadian and that would be about $100 Canadian with taxes. No, you don't Jack. You are trying to help me and sometimes I just not sure if my brain is really understanding what you are telling me.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:16 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:30 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:56 AM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:19 PM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: 1.Local London Drugs is a big store and they sell tvs, cell phones, cameras, radios, what used to be called "boom boxes" and computers. So that is why I was in there talking to their computer guys.
Quote: I'm going to take your last post to me bit by bit as I will most likely make a hash of it if I answer it straight out. If I sound grumpy forgive me, I am in a bit of pain today. Over did it when I got home yesterday and right hip is driving me batty. But things to do. London Drugs is a big chain store up here. You can find them pretty well all across Canada. They are the only drug store that sells stuff like that. The rest of the drug stores stick to magazines, cigarettes, candy, a few toys, some books, bit of food items, cosmetics, non-prescription reading glasses, vitamins, baby stuff and support stuff for walking or fixing your home up if you need help like that. Then they do prescriptions as well.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:40 PM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out for a walk to check out the cheap monitor and try and talk to someone else in London Drugs about this again. Also sunshine.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I'm going to take your last post to me bit by bit as I will most likely make a hash of it if I answer it straight out. If I sound grumpy forgive me, I am in a bit of pain today. Over did it when I got home yesterday and right hip is driving me batty. But things to do.
Quote:London Drugs is a big chain store up here. You can find them pretty well all across Canada. They are the only drug store that sells stuff like that. The rest of the drug stores stick to magazines, cigarettes, candy, a few toys, some books, bit of food items, cosmetics, non-prescription reading glasses, vitamins, baby stuff and support stuff for walking or fixing your home up if you need help like that. Then they do prescriptions as well.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There might be one reason that the monitor can't be easily replaced, and that was when PC's were made with that short-lived fad called the VESA local bus (approx 1992). If the PC was built around that time, it may have a non-standard video card. I don't remember what the back of the PC looked like but the VESA connector looks like this. (Looks pretty standard to me, but I can't tell from the picture.) BRENDA, how old is the PC? Is is back from around 1992-1993? If not, I agree with SIX and KIKI: Monitor first. You can't find out anything about the PC until you have a monitor. And even if you discover that the PC is dead, you can always use the monitor with a new PC, or even with a laptop ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Hey SIX, I wanted to say CONGRATS on the car! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section. Hmmm... Maybe they have Microsoft guys at the Best Buy by me now too. I rarely ever shop there anymore unless I spot something on a really good sale or I'm in desperate need of something. I think I've been in a BB maybe twice in the last 10 years. I'm just always wary of anybody claiming that they work for Microsoft. My mom got scammed by people based in India claiming to be Microsoft support.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:2. Apparently. After a minute he said, "I work for the Microsoft store, you need to talk to someone who works for Best Buy." I didn't know this before as the last time I was in Best Buy, I just went to their DVD section. He seemed legit, handling other customers and showing them products talking to the "Geek Squad" that works in Best Buy's computer section.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. If your motherboard doesn't have a port for the internet on it and requires a separate card, it's EXTREMELY old. I don't think that's the case. Does the back of your computer have a port that looks like the one highlighted in the following image? If it does, you plug your router directly into that and you'll have internet.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Okay. But I am getting a little confused again. Quote:Me too, but we'll figure this out. Not sure if I am glad that you are confused with me or not. But then your brain isn't over the age of 50 or suffered a Traumatic Brain Injury as the doctors like to classify what happened to me just over 30years ago now. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Okay. But I am getting a little confused again. Quote:Me too, but we'll figure this out. Not sure if I am glad that you are confused with me or not. But then your brain isn't over the age of 50 or suffered a Traumatic Brain Injury as the doctors like to classify what happened to me just over 30years ago now. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Me too, but we'll figure this out.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB. Quote:I'd like to get all that work back for you too. But we won't know if we will be able to do that until you have a working monitor. Quote:Yeah. You don't need any high priced monitor. Just make sure that it has the VGA and HDMI ports on it. The VGA is what you need for your current computer, and the HDMI port will be for when you decide to upgrade or we find out we just can't fix the old one. That way you're not wasting money getting a monitor that you can't use in the future. Got that. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I do care but as I said writing is all done long hand and typewritten. Pictures are on a USB. Quote:I'd like to get all that work back for you too. But we won't know if we will be able to do that until you have a working monitor. Quote:Yeah. You don't need any high priced monitor. Just make sure that it has the VGA and HDMI ports on it. The VGA is what you need for your current computer, and the HDMI port will be for when you decide to upgrade or we find out we just can't fix the old one. That way you're not wasting money getting a monitor that you can't use in the future. Got that. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Yeah. You don't need any high priced monitor. Just make sure that it has the VGA and HDMI ports on it. The VGA is what you need for your current computer, and the HDMI port will be for when you decide to upgrade or we find out we just can't fix the old one. That way you're not wasting money getting a monitor that you can't use in the future.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least. Quote:If your old computer can handle everything you wanted to do before, i can guaranty that the absolute cheapest computer that Best Buy has right now will be able to do anything you want it to do. It did. I was using it when I found that solitaire site and mah jong site. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:No, I don't. Most games I play on this thing I am using is a solitaire site and a mah jong site that I like. Nothing fancy in the least. Quote:If your old computer can handle everything you wanted to do before, i can guaranty that the absolute cheapest computer that Best Buy has right now will be able to do anything you want it to do. It did. I was using it when I found that solitaire site and mah jong site. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:If your old computer can handle everything you wanted to do before, i can guaranty that the absolute cheapest computer that Best Buy has right now will be able to do anything you want it to do.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Brenda, I'm really confused at this point. Aside from all the other things that have come up since then, did you ever find out for sure the monitor is a problem? Because it seems to me that before you can even try anything else, if your monitor truly is busted, you need to replace it. (And a new monitor will be handy anyway even if the old computer is defunct.) The other thing I gather is that, in general, you're trying to assemble all the parts together, which is why the mouse and keyboard topics came up, the USB port, and now the inet connection. I think you got the mouse and keyboard connections figured out (the sea green and lavender ports), so if you have a mouse and a keyboard with those color-and-shape connectors, you're golden! The small rectangular USB memory stick/ flash drive port is a no-fail thing to try, if it's the wrong one it won't fit, and if it's a sort-of wrong one, it won't work; but in either case nothing will get broken. The inet connection looks like a really heavy-duty telephone line connector, with the little clip-lever on the side of it and all. Sort of like this I realize the person who originally built your system sounds like kind of a geek, so perhaps there may be some non-standard parts to it.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:$100 sounds perfect, as long as the monitor is big enough for you. $160 is good too. I'll just stress again that any monitor you purchase needs to have VGA and HDMI. Outside of that, the only reason you should put any more money into it is if the more expensive one is larger and you want a larger monitor. Any other "frills" outside of the ports and the monitor size will be meaningless for your purposes. ...... I've been thinking about your "internet" thing. I'm starting to wonder if you had a modem AND a router on your old setup and no longer have the second thing you used to plug stuff into, and maybe that's where the confusion is coming from. It's possible you upgraded at some point and now have a Router/Modem combination unit (which most of them are these days), and you're looking for the 2nd thing that used to be in between and you don't have (or need) it anymore. Please check the back of the PC and see if you have that port in the picture above. As long as you have that port than any modern modem that you're using for your internet on your laptop will plug directly into it. Do Right, Be Right. :) I did bite the bullet today and buy the $88 one at Walmart. It came out to $105 and some change Canadian. It does have VGA and HDMI. I will deal with it over the weekend as I am in too much pain to do too much bending. Just getting out of my computer chair is a chore. Blair just had a modem for it as it was his work computer.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:$100 sounds perfect, as long as the monitor is big enough for you. $160 is good too. I'll just stress again that any monitor you purchase needs to have VGA and HDMI. Outside of that, the only reason you should put any more money into it is if the more expensive one is larger and you want a larger monitor. Any other "frills" outside of the ports and the monitor size will be meaningless for your purposes. ...... I've been thinking about your "internet" thing. I'm starting to wonder if you had a modem AND a router on your old setup and no longer have the second thing you used to plug stuff into, and maybe that's where the confusion is coming from. It's possible you upgraded at some point and now have a Router/Modem combination unit (which most of them are these days), and you're looking for the 2nd thing that used to be in between and you don't have (or need) it anymore. Please check the back of the PC and see if you have that port in the picture above. As long as you have that port than any modern modem that you're using for your internet on your laptop will plug directly into it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:$100 sounds perfect, as long as the monitor is big enough for you. $160 is good too. I'll just stress again that any monitor you purchase needs to have VGA and HDMI. Outside of that, the only reason you should put any more money into it is if the more expensive one is larger and you want a larger monitor. Any other "frills" outside of the ports and the monitor size will be meaningless for your purposes. ...... I've been thinking about your "internet" thing. I'm starting to wonder if you had a modem AND a router on your old setup and no longer have the second thing you used to plug stuff into, and maybe that's where the confusion is coming from. It's possible you upgraded at some point and now have a Router/Modem combination unit (which most of them are these days), and you're looking for the 2nd thing that used to be in between and you don't have (or need) it anymore. Please check the back of the PC and see if you have that port in the picture above. As long as you have that port than any modern modem that you're using for your internet on your laptop will plug directly into it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:46 PM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Out for a walk to check out the cheap monitor and try and talk to someone else in London Drugs about this again. Also sunshine. YAY sunshine! In a way, it's too bad that you don't have a smart phone, bc you could take a picture of the back of your PC and find the right connector for your monitor. Do you have a digital camera? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I'm going to take your last post to me bit by bit as I will most likely make a hash of it if I answer it straight out. If I sound grumpy forgive me, I am in a bit of pain today. Over did it when I got home yesterday and right hip is driving me batty. But things to do. Quote:No worries. Take your time. I understand how frustrating things like this can be even if you're not in pain. You didn't have to deal with me while I was dealing with the car. You only read a brief day-by-day synopsis of it with most of the frustration filtered out.
Quote:No worries. Take your time. I understand how frustrating things like this can be even if you're not in pain. You didn't have to deal with me while I was dealing with the car. You only read a brief day-by-day synopsis of it with most of the frustration filtered out.
Quote:Yeah. I get it now. With the other stuff going on in the post I was just thinking to myself that I needed clarification that you weren't talking to a Pharmacist about computer problems. No offence, but I find that I'm twice as likely to overestimate people's abilities as I am to underestimate them. Glad everything checks out. Quote: No worries. You probably don't have a real good idea what some stores look like in Canada or what store chains are Canadian even. And some stores are different depending what part of Canada you are in. Because of the lockdown in Western Canada, we just had a 105 year old business I think it was go under. It was called "Army & Navy". None taken. I know my brain doesn't always work the way I want it to anymore. I sort of accept that and after whenever I started on this again, I think I am now finally starting to understand it all. I'll just throw a quick list of stuff to tackle on the computer without any explanations involved that you can go back and reference, so we can make the steps clear. Because of your level of computer knowledge, the inability to order stuff online and the potential that your friend won't get back to you in a timely matter, I'm going to avoid suggesting doing anything at this point about troublshooting inside of the case, at least until we have a working monitor. Since Signy and Kiki are both involved, they may confirm this is a good list. 1. Buy a monitor with both VGA and HDMI outputs. (Shown in picture below) 2. Verify you have the necessary port on the back of the case for internet. (Highlighted in image below) IF THE RESULT IS THE COMPUTER NOW BOOTS UP AND YOU CAN SEE IT: 3. See if keyboard and mouse work. If not, we'll replace one or both. 4. Plug in your existing internet cable into the back of the case if you have both the old cable and a place to plug them in. Then we'll get you online. 5. At any point during the process pick up a few USB thumb drives because they're so cheap and you can make multiple backups of all of your work. IF EITHER THE MONITOR DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM, OR YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PLUG IN THE INTERNET: We'll figure out what to do when we get to that point. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote: No worries. You probably don't have a real good idea what some stores look like in Canada or what store chains are Canadian even. And some stores are different depending what part of Canada you are in. Because of the lockdown in Western Canada, we just had a 105 year old business I think it was go under. It was called "Army & Navy". None taken. I know my brain doesn't always work the way I want it to anymore. I sort of accept that and after whenever I started on this again, I think I am now finally starting to understand it all. I'll just throw a quick list of stuff to tackle on the computer without any explanations involved that you can go back and reference, so we can make the steps clear. Because of your level of computer knowledge, the inability to order stuff online and the potential that your friend won't get back to you in a timely matter, I'm going to avoid suggesting doing anything at this point about troublshooting inside of the case, at least until we have a working monitor. Since Signy and Kiki are both involved, they may confirm this is a good list. 1. Buy a monitor with both VGA and HDMI outputs. (Shown in picture below) 2. Verify you have the necessary port on the back of the case for internet. (Highlighted in image below) IF THE RESULT IS THE COMPUTER NOW BOOTS UP AND YOU CAN SEE IT: 3. See if keyboard and mouse work. If not, we'll replace one or both. 4. Plug in your existing internet cable into the back of the case if you have both the old cable and a place to plug them in. Then we'll get you online. 5. At any point during the process pick up a few USB thumb drives because they're so cheap and you can make multiple backups of all of your work. IF EITHER THE MONITOR DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM, OR YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PLUG IN THE INTERNET: We'll figure out what to do when we get to that point. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: No, I didn't but I have bought a new monitor that I will deal with once all the pain I am in is gone. Hopefully the weekend. Mouse and keyboard are plugged into the tower but don't appear to be functioning. Blair had several geek friends and I know they helped him when he had problems.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:26 PM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:32 PM
Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: No, I didn't but I have bought a new monitor that I will deal with once all the pain I am in is gone. Hopefully the weekend. Mouse and keyboard are plugged into the tower but don't appear to be functioning. Blair had several geek friends and I know they helped him when he had problems.
Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Brenda: Pain? Er... don't try anything complicated when you're in pain! It's as bad as driving drunk, or working dehydrated, or doing anything when sleep-deprived: BAD THINGS HAPPEN. If there is anything we can do to help, let us know. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Friday, June 19, 2020 12:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. If your motherboard doesn't have a port for the internet on it and requires a separate card, it's EXTREMELY old. I don't think that's the case. Does the back of your computer have a port that looks like the one highlighted in the following image? If it does, you plug your router directly into that and you'll have internet. I looked at the back of the computer last night but I couldn't tell anything. Brain and eyes didn't want to work together. Looked again when I got home today and there is no port like the one outlined in the picture. That I can see now is what is missing.
Friday, June 19, 2020 12:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: The PC must be from around 1992 as he was still working then.
Quote:Bought new monitor today and will deal with it when I am not in so much pain.
Friday, June 19, 2020 12:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Good. It is. Ah yes, sanitizing your posts. I've been cursing under my breath off and on today because of the pain I am in. And if I am cursing then you know I am in some real pain. I have a fairly high tolerance for it.
Quote:No worries. You probably don't have a real good idea what some stores look like in Canada or what store chains are Canadian even. And some stores are different depending what part of Canada you are in. Because of the lockdown in Western Canada, we just had a 105 year old business I think it was go under. It was called "Army & Navy".
Quote:None taken. I know my brain doesn't always work the way I want it to anymore. I sort of accept that and after whenever I started on this again, I think I am now finally starting to understand it all.
Friday, June 19, 2020 12:28 AM
Friday, June 19, 2020 3:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:I get that Jack. But keep saying that there is something missing which is where I plug the internet cable into the back of the case. If your motherboard doesn't have a port for the internet on it and requires a separate card, it's EXTREMELY old. I don't think that's the case. Does the back of your computer have a port that looks like the one highlighted in the following image? If it does, you plug your router directly into that and you'll have internet. I looked at the back of the computer last night but I couldn't tell anything. Brain and eyes didn't want to work together. Looked again when I got home today and there is no port like the one outlined in the picture. That I can see now is what is missing. Is there a big gaping hole there or something then? If a card was removed, there will be a big hole. It doesn't even make sense that somebody would remove that card since there would be absolutely no reason anybody would ever do that. If you never had a port that looked like that in the first place, you didn't get on the internet with that computer. It's far too old for wi-fi. You've only got 2 USB ports. I suppose you could have been getting on it wirelessly, but I'm starting to doubt it if you say the computer is possibly from 1992. (EDIT: Just Googled it. USB wasn't even invented until 1994, so the computer is at least that "new".) Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, June 19, 2020 3:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: The PC must be from around 1992 as he was still working then.
Quote: It probably started out Windows but then Blair found Linux and he had it running on that. Linux isn't used much in BC, so I had my IT guy flip the system back to one of the Windows but I don't remember now what he told me. I had him do it over 3years ago now. Quote:Bought new monitor today and will deal with it when I am not in so much pain. Oh good. I really want to get to the bottom of this now. My curiosity is piqued. Sorry about the pain. I hope you feel better after some rest. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, June 19, 2020 3:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Good. It is. Ah yes, sanitizing your posts. I've been cursing under my breath off and on today because of the pain I am in. And if I am cursing then you know I am in some real pain. I have a fairly high tolerance for it. I live alone. I'm always cursing out loud about one thing or another. Quote:No worries. You probably don't have a real good idea what some stores look like in Canada or what store chains are Canadian even. And some stores are different depending what part of Canada you are in. Because of the lockdown in Western Canada, we just had a 105 year old business I think it was go under. It was called "Army & Navy". Oh, I'm sure there's some things I take for granted as "normal" around here that would make you laugh. I just never would have thought that a drug store would have computer guys until you told me they do by you. Quote:None taken. I know my brain doesn't always work the way I want it to anymore. I sort of accept that and after whenever I started on this again, I think I am now finally starting to understand it all. No worries. I found myself derailing my own train of thought when talking to my grandma on the phone today and asking her "how did I get on that topic? I had a point..." Then I realized I was asking my 87 year old grandmother that question and chances are if I talked to her about the same thing tomorrow she'd think it was the first time I told her about it. But hey... you got the monitor. At least we should be able to see if your computer will boot up still and figure out what we need to do next when you're feeling better. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, June 19, 2020 4:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: It happens as we get older.
Friday, June 19, 2020 10:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Okay, where you would plug in an internet cable is covered over and I said that there is a hole in it where an "internet or video card" should be.
Quote:He was using a modem with this thing but I doubt he ever used and it does have USB ports on the back of it. He had another large external drive that he used for his work files.
Friday, June 19, 2020 1:53 PM
Friday, June 19, 2020 1:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: It happens as we get older. I'm not QUITE at the stage of making lists of lists, but I can definitely imagine it in my future! I do find it kinda' funny as a concept, though. Besides, watcha' gonna' do?
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