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It's Sunday. Relax, Brenda.

I was planning on working after my guests left, but we ate big... which I rarely do during the day. Feels like hibernation time early today.

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That's what I did. Absolutely nothing. No book work, no music just messed with my computer for the day and ate.

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My grandpa was 90 when I got him a computer and printer, modem. He could start working on his book (editing), until I found out what he was doing and scanned it in, a few hundred pages.
That first day I hooked up his modem and showed him how to send an email. He sent me, so I confirmed it worked, then my cousin in CA, who we hadn't seen in years. Next day I asked him if he checked his email yet, he didn't know why we should. Checked and found he had a reply from my cousin, she had replied 3 hours after he sent it, and it had been waiting for him for almost a day - he thought it would take a few days for the email to travel. He spent A LOT of time on that PC. Eventually learned to stop eating walnuts next to the printer. Everybody in the family was amazed he was willing to use a computer - including me, but I had a sales pitch in mind, and I wanted him to keep his mind active and exercised, and that part worked until he decided to die.

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ETA: Oh.... I think I see where you're going with this. You don't mean continuously. You just want me to use only the drill pump to get the water out and into the toilet for a full hour to see if the stream from the inlet slows down when the pump isn't putting it out to the street.

Great way to see if any of that pumped water is just being dumped right back against the house.

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Should do that when it is not raining, but still has at least 3 cycles per hour.

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My cordless brushless impact driver has 18 torque settings plus 3 speeds, selected by switch. My cordless drill has 2 speed settings. I would use the slowest speed for your pump, until you get the hang of it.

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The most pertinent news recently was that the delay from start of hard rain until pump start was about an hour, if I understand correctly. Whatever that time is, that is one to keep track of and compare in the future.

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It's Sunday. Relax, Brenda.

I was planning on working after my guests left, but we ate big... which I rarely do during the day. Feels like hibernation time early today.

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That's what I did. Absolutely nothing. No book work, no music just messed with my computer for the day and ate.

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Nice. Except for listening for the sump pump cycles I didn't do much after my guests left either.



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Nobody bailed and I had a great night out with my friends.

Well. Except for my one buddy rubbing in all night about how many hundreds of thousands of dollars he's made so far buying AMC stock. He was always a braggart, but that was getting a little on my nerves tonight.

To be fair, he did tell me to buy it when it was 9 bucks and now it's 26+.

I hope it goes well for him. He's far from poor, but I think he's investing WAY too much into it at this point. I guess he basically just re-invested all the money he's "made" so far buying more stock at $17 more per share than his initial buys were. It's always fun riding something like that when it looks like the sky is the limit. But he's going to want to take that ticker off of the bottom of the clock on his thousand dollar Apple watch if it ever comes crashing down.


I think he's equally annoyed at me for not being impressed or envious of all of his toys. I guess maybe it's been a while since I've been around somebody who puts so much value on material possessions and feels a constant need to let everyone know how well they're doing. I just told him "if you ain't sharin' people ain't carin'".

Man... I must have been annoying when we were kids and I was walking around wearing gold chains and going to parties wearing $250 outfits.

If $1k per month UBI ever becomes a thing I'll never have to answer to anyone ever again and that's the only thing in life that will ever make me happy. No material possession in the world could ever do that.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for my walk soon on a nice sunny day. Need to do a couple of things.

Tried using a VCR that I have last night. Batteries in remote leaked, so remote is toast. I am not sure if the machine itself is working. Have to go into a tech store today while I am out and ask a couple of questions.

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Nobody bailed and I had a great night out with my friends.

Well. Except for my one buddy rubbing in all night about how many hundreds of thousands of dollars he's made so far buying AMC stock. He was always a braggart, but that was getting a little on my nerves tonight.

To be fair, he did tell me to buy it when it was 9 bucks and now it's 26+.

I hope it goes well for him. He's far from poor, but I think he's investing WAY too much into it at this point. I guess he basically just re-invested all the money he's "made" so far buying more stock at $17 more per share than his initial buys were. It's always fun riding something like that when it looks like the sky is the limit. But he's going to want to take that ticker off of the bottom of the clock on his thousand dollar Apple watch if it ever comes crashing down.


I think he's equally annoyed at me for not being impressed or envious of all of his toys. I guess maybe it's been a while since I've been around somebody who puts so much value on material possessions and feels a constant need to let everyone know how well they're doing. I just told him "if you ain't sharin' people ain't carin'".

Man... I must have been annoying when we were kids and I was walking around wearing gold chains and going to parties wearing $250 outfits.

If $1k per month UBI ever becomes a thing I'll never have to answer to anyone ever again and that's the only thing in life that will ever make me happy. No material possession in the world could ever do that.

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So you zre saying that on the evening of Thursday, 27 May you had a Reunion...with Friends.
Yeah, that story is all over news and media, and even before Thursday.

But I missed it.

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6ix,I may have been unclear. When doing that proactive testing, don't use the drill pump. The tether float gives a predictable high and low water mark. The drill pump would not.

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If you wanted to try an improvement, I suggest reducing the float range, like from the current 5" to 3 or 4 ". Maybe tie another zip strip another 1/2" or so below the current tether pivot point.

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6ix,I may have been unclear. When doing that proactive testing, don't use the drill pump. The tether float gives a predictable high and low water mark. The drill pump would not.

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Nah. I got you. I was probably unclear about the things I wanted to do down there, in what order, and how they pertain to each other.

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Also, once you get one or 2 cycle intervals timed, you shouldn't need to keep listening for it until another 12 or 24 hours later, then check one or 2 cycle intervals again.

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Yeah. It's going to happen though. I'm OCD like that. And there's no way I can even attempt piecing together the times for a whole 24 hour range. It was hard enough with 8 hour gaps in between.

I'm only going to be doing this when there have been signifigant changes made though, such as digging the well deeper/shortening the tether length and putting the drain pipe on the ends of the adapters. If it were to rain 2" tonight there would be no benefit from me doing it again and I'd probably be happy that it's so quiet I could turn up the volume of my computer a bit and drown it out.

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If you wanted to try an improvement, I suggest reducing the float range, like from the current 5" to 3 or 4 ". Maybe tie another zip strip another 1/2" or so below the current tether pivot point.

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I'm failing to understand how this would be an improvement...

At 5" tether length, the pump goes off over 1" before it even starts hitting the bottom of the 4" inlet from outside. In my mind, shortening the length would just reduce my 15 second on time to 10-12 seconds, leaving me with a lot more motor starts with shorter intervals and the same amount of water going out.

What is your thinking here about how this would be beneficial? Am I missing something?

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1st recording: When you had 7" range, you had 4 minute intervals.

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Now when you have 5" range, you get down to 10 minute intervals.

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I don't think that's what changed the intervals... At least not in the way that you are thinking.

There's three other factors.

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1st recording: When you had 7" range, you had 4 minute intervals.

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1. First time I made the recordings there was well over 3.5" of rain in a much shorter period.

2. First time I made the recordings I hadn't installed the drain pipes so the water from both sides of the garage and the back side of the porch/shed diverted down the driveway and to the street instead of 2/3rds or more of that ending up in the sand pit.

3. First time I made the recordings the well was 8" shallower and the pump allowed water to sit and pool until it was nearly 5" above the 4" inlet, never once having allowed the drainage system to dry out in 6 years.

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Yes. Now that I have a 5" range AND all three differences above.

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5-7 minutes, all other factors being equal to the rainfall we had the last week?

My guess is that by shortening the tether all I would be doing is forcing less water out per interval, which would just make the pump go off more often to remove the same amount of water that is already now freely making it into the well without being backed up by a pump that allows it to sit until nearly reaching the brim, and subsequently in outside drain pipes.

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Out for my walk soon on a nice sunny day. Need to do a couple of things.

Tried using a VCR that I have last night. Batteries in remote leaked, so remote is toast. I am not sure if the machine itself is working. Have to go into a tech store today while I am out and ask a couple of questions.

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Your continuous pump cycling for days after rain are NOT from above-ground water sources.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
|| (or sometimes a box) stop
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Once you've got this entire thing conjured, this will amount to tinkering - experimentation.

When you had 7" range, you had 4 minute intervals.

Now when you have 5" range, you get down to 10 minute intervals.

If you get down to 4 or 3" range, your interval will be......

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Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
|| (or sometimes a box) stop
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Once you've got this entire thing conjured, this will amount to tinkering - experimentation.

When you had 7" range, you had 4 minute intervals.

Now when you have 5" range, you get down to 10 minute intervals.

If you get down to 4 or 3" range, your interval will be......

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That seems backwards to me. If you have smaller range, you will pump less water with each cycle. That means, for the same rate of water flowing in, you'll need MORE cycles to pump out the same amount.

Did no one ever teach you geometry and dimensional analysis?

But let's take your thought experiment to it's conclusion.

If you have a 7" range, you will pump out about 1.1 cubic feet per cycle.

With a 5" range you will pump out 0.8 cubic feet per cycle.

With a 3" range you will pump out 0.6 cuft per cycle.

At the shortest range possible- 0"- you will pump out exactly 0 cuft of water.

And you say that by pumping out less and less water per cycle you'll increase the time between cycles, even as water continues to flow in???

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Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
|| (or sometimes a box) stop
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Once you've got this entire thing conjured, this will amount to tinkering - experimentation.

When you had 7" range, you had 4 minute intervals.

Now when you have 5" range, you get down to 10 minute intervals.

If you get down to 4 or 3" range, your interval will be......

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That seems backwards to me. If you have smaller range, you will pump less water with each cycle. That means, for the same rate of water flowing in, you'll need MORE cycles to pump out the same amount.

Did no one ever teach you geometry and dimensional analysis?

But let's take your thought experiment to it's conclusion.

If you have a 7" range, you will pump out about 1.1 cubic feet per cycle.

With a 5" range you will pump out 0.8 cubic feet per cycle.

With a 3" range you will pump out 0.6 cuft per cycle.

At the shortest range possible- 0"- you will pump out exactly 0 cuft of water.

And you say that by pumping out less and less water per cycle you'll increase the time between cycles, even as water continues to flow in???

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I am trying hard not to confuse, frustrate, overwhelm 6ix while focusing his attention to pertinent information and tasks.
So, after some problems are resolved or tested, feel free to ask this again. However, the answers/clues are already posted in this thread, INCLUDING in your post before this one.

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KIKI was the first to point out that you may be dealing with an underground stream. They're not unheard of, especially on flood plains when an old streambed gets filled in and built on. And I suggested that the prolonged seepage of water meant that it was coming from some distance, not from right around your drip line.

There are two possible sources: another pipe break which is cycling water back to your foundation, or that muskrat hole-ridden ditch across the street that is percolating water as well as carrying it away.

Anyway, if you have good drainage under your foundation and a reliable pump to pump out the water, I think you should be ok. You can take your time looking for that source and fixing it.

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So you and kiki are trying to tell us that you have (or remember) VCRs that are sooooo old that they have front panel controls? AND can be turned on, activated without a remote?

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I am trying hard not to confuse, frustrate, overwhelm 6ix while focusing his attention to pertinent information and tasks.

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Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
|| (or sometimes a box) stop
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VCR was given to me with no manual. So, I shall have to use the buttons on the front of it when I make my next attempt.

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Brenda, if you still have the VCR manual, it should tell you how to control the VCR from the front panel buttons. Controlling it from the front panel buttons will tell you if it's working.

Use a tape you don't care for too much to try out the VCR buttons.

If you don't have the manual, and you have the make and model, you might be able to find a digital copy of the manual online.

Failing that, you could try just reading the buttons on the front of the VCR and see what they say: play, stop, ffw (fast forward), rwd (rewind)

... or, if the buttons aren't labeled with words but have symbols instead, look for symbols such as
>> (fast forward)
<< (rewind)
> (play)
|| (or sometimes a box) stop
... and so forth ... and give those buttons a try.

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VCR was given to me with no manual. So, I shall have to use the buttons on the front of it when I make my next attempt.

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If you didn't throw out the remote and the leak wasn't too serious you should be able to clean it out. Although you don't want to be getting it all over the place, the battery leak isn't nearly as dangerous as I grew up thinking it was when my mom put the fear in god in me when she threw out one of my toys that had leaked.

Wear some gloves, and with a toothbrush and some vinegar you can neutralize and clean the leak. Then you'd just have to wait until everything was dry before powering it up again. A few days should do it.


If you've already thrown it out, I'm sure you could still find a Universal remote that you'd be able to get working with your VCR.

Try the buttons out first and make sure it works though. It probably will. Those things were built pretty good considering how many moving parts they had. The buttons are pretty self explanatory. You shouldn't need a manual for them. Kiki's post sums up any of the important functions you'd need.

The only thing you might be missing going forward without the proper remote would be any menu features that would allow you to program a time you wanted it to record when you weren't home. I think you could still get that with a universal remote, but it could be trickier to figure out. If you had no plans on ever recording stuff while you weren't there to hit the record button, you probably won't ever miss the remote once you get used to pressing the buttons on the face.

Like I said in my post to JSF above, the VCR I grew up with and ended up taking with me when I moved out never had a remote control when it was brand new.

And that thing was SO old that you couldn't get a universal remote to work with it since it wasn't even designed with a receiver to pick up any remote signals.



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SUMP PUMP TV is now broadcasting.

That little thing is amazing for $16.

I'm not going to be paying the $30/yr. to have cloud storage though, so it's pretty much just something I can watch on my TV or tablet when I want to monitor it. I am able to manually force it to take video whenever I want, and that gets stored directly on the tablet, so when we've got some rain and it gets a lot of action it should be pretty cool to watch.

No more going down there unless I'm actually working on something.



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SUMP PUMP TV is now broadcasting.

That little thing is amazing for $16.

I'm not going to be paying the $30/yr. to have cloud storage though, so it's pretty much just something I can watch on my TV or tablet when I want to monitor it. I am able to manually force it to take video whenever I want, and that gets stored directly on the tablet, so when we've got some rain and it gets a lot of action it should be pretty cool to watch.

No more going down there unless I'm actually working on something.



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This is good news. Even after 5 times of forcing it out until the pump sucked air before making the alterations, it's still going off an average of at least 3 times per day, allowing water that never would have been able to make its way into the well get there now.


It's nice knowing that as soon as water can get to it, it will be going where it needs to go instead of building up like a dam and making it go places that it shouldn't have been going.

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Sounds like you are likely pumping about 4 or 5 gallons per pump cycle, with a float range of about 5". About 8 hours between, or maybe 4 hours, if you missed hearing one at 5am.
Which is good productivity, at draining your foundation.

Sounds like the pump is now about 7 1/2" physically lower than the past 6 years. Pumps starts about 1" below the bottom of the inlet tube, and likely stops about 6" below the inlet tube.



This is data that would be good to know, at this point in time:
Go down to it, activate it until it almost sucks air, then wait 5 or 10 minutes - or until the water stops pouring into it from the inlet tube.
Then activate the pump again, until it just starts to suck air.
Then start the timer

After that 2nd manual activation, what is the surface level in the well after 1 minute? You can measure from the rim.
Then, what is the level after 2 minutes following the sucking air.
Then, what is the level after 5 minutes total?
After 10 min total?
after 15 min total?

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This is data that would be good to know, at this point in time:
Go down to it, activate it until it almost sucks air, then wait 5 or 10 minutes - or until the water stops pouring into it from the inlet tube.
Then activate the pump again, until it just starts to suck air.
Then start the timer

After that 2nd manual activation, what is the surface level in the well after 1 minute? You can measure from the rim.
Then, what is the level after 2 minutes following the sucking air.
Then, what is the level after 5 minutes total?
After 10 min total?
after 15 min total?

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Now that you have pump TV, it would be great if you get these measurements. You could record it, for reference.
If you get one time of interval before this test, that would be handy.
Then, for this test it would be good to just use the laundry water. I assume that a load of laundry water is enough to kick the pump on 2 or 3 times at least.

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This is data that would be good to know, at this point in time:
Go down to it, activate it until it almost sucks air, then wait 5 or 10 minutes - or until the water stops pouring into it from the inlet tube.
Then activate the pump again, until it just starts to suck air.
Then start the timer

After that 2nd manual activation, what is the surface level in the well after 1 minute? You can measure from the rim.
Then, what is the level after 2 minutes following the sucking air.
Then, what is the level after 5 minutes total?
After 10 min total?
after 15 min total?

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Now that you have pump TV, it would be great if you get these measurements. You could record it, for reference.
If you get one time of interval before this test, that would be handy.
Then, for this test it would be good to just use the laundry water. I assume that a load of laundry water is enough to kick the pump on 2 or 3 times at least.

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I don't have any paint marks on the well yet. The walls are still grimy and constantly wet. Although the pump itself looks as sparkly clean as it did when I put it in, and you can actually see through the clear water to the bottom instead of the swamp water that had been in that well for years before I dug it down.


Any ideas how to get paint to stick to the sides? Cleaning products for the concrete as well as what type of paint/marker to use?

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As an aside... any ideas for something I can wrap around the pipe where the 1/8" hole was drilled to prevent the pump from locking up because of the vacuum?


I was going to make that relief hole much lower and pointed downward in the new PVC pipe, but I had to re-use the old PVC coming out of the pump because my dumb ass glued the male-to-female PVC piece into the pump and it wasn't coming out. (I ended up adding a shorter length in between that and the new check valve with a rubber coupler.

So even though the thing is a lot quieter now, there is a ton of unnecessary splash back. It wasn't a problem when I could just cover immediately over the hole with a paver and then cover the whole thing up with visqueen, but now that I have a camera on there it is a problem. I still don't have full view of the well either since I still have to leave that paver on top otherwise water will get all over the place.

I'm sure there's something I can come up with. Maybe I can fabricate something out of a small piece of the sheet metal I used for roof repairs. Just something that the water would hit and go straight down into the well instead of hitting the side of it like a miniature fire hose.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, over the past couple of days managed to drag dear daughter's dresser into her room, a rake up enuf leaves to fill both 65-gal bins and shred them today.

Those will be the last leaves I shred for this season. Any more leaves that I rakeup are going into greenwaste. Strictly cleanup, no recovery bc the closer I get to the dirt the more grasses and weeds (and their seeds) and sticks I pick up, and I don't want to be breaking my strings and spreading unwanted seeds around.

One of the things that was hanging me up on the front yard was bc there are SO MANY things to do I wasn't sure where to start, but I finally figured out my sequence and I can move forward with a plan where I won't be undoing or re-doing previous work.



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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's about 28 minutes between cycles now, with a steady rise all day.

At this point, my guess is 108 cycles since 6:28PM up to the last cycle before midnight tonight.

At roughly 5.66 gallons per cycle, that would be 611 gallons in the last 30 hours, and there's been no rain for over 24 hours.



The pump didn't go off all that much with that first .90" rain we had (I wish I was keeping track... don't remember why I didn't). It had been a while since we got any rain at that point and the ground was pretty dry.

But after we got the following .95 or so inches, adding up to right about 1.9" in 72 hours, that's when it started going off a lot.


I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess 32 cycles tomorrow if we don't hit the floor. That would be another 181 gallons if that happens.




I'm going to be installing a wi-fi camera down there. Not sure what bells and whistles it's got, but my hope is that I'll be able to put the "sump pump channel" on my TV, and hopefully be able to get timestamps for all the future cycles instead of having to babysit it all day long. It's a lot harder to do because it makes about 1/10th as much noise as it did before I dug the well out.


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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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For your camera action, you might use a paint pen, probably yellow, to mark levels on the side of the well. Like the low mark, one minute after cycle stop, and high mark, and maybe each inch in between.


Another thing I'd like you to try. Tomorrow, if you can.
Go test your new drill pump, run to output to the toilet. or into a big pail, then dump into toilet.
I would hope you can do this for an hour. Prevent the pump from triggering.
Then time the intervals between cycles for several cycles.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
OK, fine. So then DO IT. It doesn't help to hear your guesses or imaginings. That is why I asked to perform the test, now, without others factors confusing the results.

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If you suck air, then use heater/hair dryer to dry that well wall, should be easy. If water coming in, maybe dry the paint after application.

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