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Sunday, April 24, 2022 11:21 PM
BRENDA
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah. 10 flights of stairs isn't fun if you're carrying a bunch of things. I didn't consider that. Do you have, or have you ever considered buying one of those grocery bag carriers? I know how much over-carrying things just from my car to the entry to my house (through 3 doors) can jamb up my fingers because I don't use one of those. Though I'm sure you're not overloading yourself on the walks, they are supposed to do a good job of dispersing the weight and making it easier on the digits. https://www.amazon.com/Totasak-Grocery-Carrier-2-Pack-Royal/dp/B08DDG1NPF/ref=asc_df_B08DDG1NPF/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475771454365&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17845902166708519423&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016186&hvtargid=pla-1129405630705&psc=1 They probably have even better ones that would have a nice padded handle, I would imagine. -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"
Monday, April 25, 2022 12:34 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I don't think I've seen them up here. I would have to look for them. I have a shopping bag that I take with me when I go out to carry groceries in but yeah I am careful about over loading even that. It a stretchy one and can hold quite a bit.
Monday, April 25, 2022 4:50 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, April 25, 2022 8:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think if anyone has anything useful to say about carrying things, it would be SIX, given his job and personal experience! I had a four-wheel cart, kind of like a kids' wagon but soft-sided, for when I used to go to the farmer's market. It was very useful until a weld broke on a wheel. Fortunately, hubby was able to kluge it back together with a big bolt and washer. Yanno, they go thru the trouble of making 99pct of it right, choosing sturdy fabric and decent metal, and then they go cheap on some critical element, like welds, and the whole thing becomes useless. Typical Chinese junk.
Quote:Is it just our area, of has anyone noticed a significant deterioration in food quality control lately?
Quote:Eggs... used to be well-sorted. Now you might get an AVERAGE of large eggs, but some are ginormous and some are pretty small.
Quote:I just had to throw out a bag of dried beans bc more than half looked like they had been mold-spotted before being dried. Who wants to eat aflatoxin?? Not to mention that breasts from conventionally-raised chickens are quite tough, with fibrous areas that are like wood. They've tracked it down to chickens growing too fast and creating "oxidative stress" in the muscle. "Has the same nutrional value!" they claim, but who the hell wants to be eating wood-like chicken??? I buy organic chicken (the only organic meat I can afford) but I'm detecting the beginnings of the same problem there, too. Bone chips in ground meat. Moldy produce. Not to mention shortages of random stuff.
Quote:I dunno. Prices are going up, too. I guess that's the benefit of having fixed "price points" (For YEARS I could limit purchases to no more than $4/lb for fully-trimmed meat, or $6/lb for cheese, or $2/lb for vegetable/fuits) bc it becomes obvious when I'm hitting or exceeding my price points, which I'm doing more and more often. Especially with beef. It's a little late in the year for planting is So Cal but my seedlings are coming up, and as soon as this latest hot spell is over I'm going to prep the garden for planting. Still thinking about raising my own chickens. Our city allows five (no roosters! too noisy!) I would have to keep them out of the garden bc they tend to tear up veggies a they scratch the soil, and protect them and their eggs from raccoons and skunks, butmight be worth it in the end. Bees, too. Would be nice to have a beehive. And a still. We have a feijoa, and it produces fruit like apricots - in abundance, all at once. There's only so many we can eat and give away or make jam. But brandy ... now THERE'S a great way to store fruit!
Quote:I have a new organizational system that allows me to keep track of varying tasks that are on different schedules (twice a week, once a week, twice a month, once a month, once every three weeks ...) With all of the random unexpected events popping up lately it's easy for someone with a crappy memory like mine to forget to water the houseplants, for example! I just don't multitask like I used to, and I was never very good at it anyway. But instead of keeping running lists, I just write my "to do" items on little yellow stickies and stick them in my diary (I found keeping a diary at work very helpful bc I could record meetings, and who I talked to and when about some disputed result or policy clarification, and I carried it over to home) and if theyve been completed I just move the sticky to the next scheduled date, and if not completed yo the next day, until it's done. It keeps me on track and eliminates that nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something, so now I can concentrate on the special projects that pop up without worrying about the other stuff. So far it's been working well, and I'm very pleased with it. You may not realize it BRENDA, but YOU were the inspiration for that system. I like that fact that you have a schedule and have been trying to make my life more predictable and I think I've found my system.
Monday, April 25, 2022 1:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I don't think I've seen them up here. I would have to look for them. I have a shopping bag that I take with me when I go out to carry groceries in but yeah I am careful about over loading even that. It a stretchy one and can hold quite a bit. Yeah. Check out the reviews. People who have used them seem to have nothing but good things to say. I've never used one of those, but I can tell you that there's a lot to be said about tools like this that redistribute the weight the proper way. Forearm forklifts are great for moving large appliances and furniture, making it a snap for two guys who would normally struggle getting them up or down stairs and can even make it possible for two people who wouldn't even be able to manage it without them. I also have a "panel carrier" that makes lifting, moving and controlling a 4'x8' sheet of drywall a piece of cake with only one person and not accidentally hitting it into a wall or dropping it too hard on one of its corners, which are both things you need to be really worried about if you're trying to move them without two people. If you can find them I think you'll wonder how you lived without them after you start using them. -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"
Monday, April 25, 2022 5:08 PM
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Wednesday, April 27, 2022 2:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Back and in. Still threatening to rain but nothing so far.
Wednesday, April 27, 2022 2:35 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2022 1:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Back and in. Still threatening to rain but nothing so far. Yanno, if I had to walk or take the bus everywhere I'd have a much different view of rain or snow. OTOH, I'd probably hate the heat even more than I do now. Just OOC BRENDA, since having been on chemo I've become seriously anemic. Over time I've had six units of blood and it hasn't fully corrected the anemia yet. But one consequence is feeling cold all the time. Might you possibly be anemic? Low thyroid levels can do the same. Im sure yours is checked regularly, but might it be on the low side of normal? Just hoping there's a simple fix to tolerate the weather better. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Thursday, April 28, 2022 10:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Just finished watching Series 6 of "Shetland" and arrrggh!! Tug at the heart strings and I don't like that Fiscal. I just want to hug Jimmy and aye Duncan as well.
Thursday, April 28, 2022 10:18 PM
Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today. Some suppliers in Los Angeles, Ventura and San Bernardino counties will limit watering of lawns to once a week to ease the burden on the drought-stricken state aqueduct. Unprecedented water restrictions are in store for about 6 million Southern Californians, a sign of deepening drought in counties that depend on water piped from the state’s parched reservoirs. The Metropolitan Water District’s board voted unanimously today to require six major water providers and the dozens of cities and local districts they supply to impose one of two options: limit residents to outdoor watering once a week or reduce total water use below a certain target. The water providers must have plans to police their customers, and if they fail to impose the restrictions, they could face fines of $2,000 for every extra acre-foot of water that exceeds their monthly allocation limits, starting in June, according to Metropolitan. The restrictions target parts of Los Angeles, Ventura and San Bernardino counties that rely heavily on water from drought-stricken Northern California rivers transported south via the State Water Project. “At this time, a third of our region, 6 million Southern Californians in parts of Los Angeles, Ventura, San Bernardino counties, face a very real and immediate water stress challenge,” said Metropolitan Water District General Manager Adel Hagekhalil. “Today these areas rely on extremely limited supplies from Northern California. And there is not enough supply available to meet the normal demands in these areas.” Cutting back outdoor watering to one day a week would be a big change for the arid, densely populated areas, where many people irrigate their lawns and gardens. Southern Californians have heard for decades about the dangers of drought, but per-person residential water use has increased in the past two years, despite the severe drought. Experts say conservation wavers in the region because restrictions are largely voluntary — and their water never seems to run out. “This is insane but not unexpected,” Peter Kraut, a council member from the San Fernando Valley city of Calabasas told the Metropolitan board, which is composed of 38 city and local district officials. “I’m appalled that a change this drastic is happening in such a short period of time.” “This plan will result not just in brown grass but in killing countless trees. The damage to our environment will take decades to repair,” Kraut added. Today’s mandate is the first outdoor watering restriction imposed by the giant water-import agency, which supplies 19 million people in California. More stringent restrictions may come later, Metropolitan officials warned: The water providers must also prepare to ban all outdoor watering as early as September, if necessary, as California suffers one of its driest periods on record. The six affected water suppliers are Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District and Three Valleys Municipal Water District — all in Los Angeles County — and the Calleguas Municipal Water District in Ventura County and the Inland Empire Utilities Agency in San Bernardino County. About 13 million other Southern Californians are unaffected by the order because they aren’t as dependent on water imported via the State Water Project. They receive imports from the Colorado River, which largely are sent to Orange, San Diego and Imperial counties. Metropolitan has been working to increase the number of customers who can receive Colorado River water to reduce reliance on the hard-pressed state aqueduct. The Colorado River, however, also is facing extreme drought, and deliveries to California, Nevada and Arizona are being cut back under an agreement signed by the states in December. How much each agency must curtail customers’ water use under Metropolitan’s order depends on how much each relies on the state aqueduct compared to other sources, such as groundwater or recycled sewage. Water agencies are still figuring out the details. Some local water providers urged the board at today’s meeting to let them continue watering sports fields and parks more frequently so the turf doesn’t dry out. Two of the six depend almost entirely on state aqueduct supplies — the Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, which serves 75,000 residents west of Los Angeles, and the Calleguas Municipal Water District, which supplies 19 agencies and cities in southeast Ventura County. Some communities served by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, Inland Empire Utilities Agency and the Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District have other sources that may buffer the blow of the new mandate. Los Angeles DWP spokesperson Ellen Cheng did not respond to multiple inquiries about which parts of the city will be affected. Some of the affected agencies, such as Las Virgenes in Calabasas and nearby western Los Angeles County cities, already have cracked down on residents by imposing new escalating rates and penalties, with mixed success. Others, including Los Angeles DWP, which has limited outdoor watering to three days a week since 2009, have not added any new restrictions during the current drought. “I’m not happy that we have to do this. It is challenging. But it is a necessity.” tom love, upper san gabriel valley municipal water district The Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District, which serves a million people in 19 cities from South Pasadena to Azusa, will meet with its local retailers soon to determine what restrictions to put in place to meet the new order. “We are likely to recommend to our local retailers to implement mandatory water use restrictions that may not be as low as one day a week. But whatever we think is necessary to reduce consumption so that those local supplies aren’t depleted,” said General Manager Tom Love. “I’m not happy that we have to do this. It is challenging. But it is a necessity,” Love said. “And whatever Met does in this regard just provides us the backup to do what we need to do within our service area.” “I have never seen it this severe in my whole career,” he added. Though his administration ordered water suppliers to step up their drought responses, Gov. Gavin Newsom has largely left it to local water agencies to coax or mandate cuts in water use during some of the state’s driest years on record. About half of water flowing through Southern Californians’ taps comes from elsewhere, piped from Northern California rivers, the Colorado River or the Owens Valley. Though the Metropolitan Water District entered 2021 with record amounts in storage, the last three years have seen the lowest total deliveries from Northern California reservoirs. Metropolitan’s decision to tighten water restrictions comes on the heels of the driest January, February and March on record. State officials in March reduced deliveries from the state aqueduct to just 5% of requested supplies. ‘Everything’s still being watered’ Since the last drought, Southern Californians have conserved: using nearly 16% less water per person per day in 2021 than in 2014. But residential use has increased per capita this year. “Everything’s still being watered. And what’s interesting is that there’s no idea of a shortage happening,” said Kareem Gongora, a San Bernardino County planning commissioner. “You come to the (Inland Empire), you don’t feel like there’s a drought. Everything is pretty much practically green still, manicured lawns.” Gongora, who lives in Fontana, recently moved to a new house. He said he intentionally chose one with a much smaller yard and lawn because of the risk of drought and the price of water. When it rains, he said, he turns his sprinklers off. When it doesn’t, he runs them twice a week. “We're new to our neighborhood,” he said. “I don't want to make a bad impression on my neighbors” by letting a yard dry out and die. Gongora said he remembered more restrictions and penalties during the last drought, and called Metropolitan’s new restrictions a step in the right direction. “I don't see anything happening at the pace that it should have,” he said. In Los Angeles County’s Agoura Hills, Mayor Deborah Klein Lopez’s sprinklers don’t work. She turned them off about two years ago, and let her lawn go brown. She said she has no intention of turning them back on. “I had new next door neighbors move in and I was like, ‘I know my lawn is I ugly. I promise — I have two kids in college. It's on my list,’” she said. “But, a brown lawn is a little bit of a badge of honor right now, just because it shows that you're really keen to the severity of the situation.” “You come to the (Inland Empire), you don’t feel like there’s a drought. Everything is pretty much practically green still, manicured lawns.” Kareem Gongora, San Bernardino County planning commissioner Looking around the neighborhood, she said, another neighbor has a plastic lawn, and some have drought tolerant gardens. But about a third water lush landscapes, even though their local water supplier, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, has been trying to convince residents to cut back. Each resident in the Las Virgenes water district’s affluent service area has water budgets for their indoor and outdoor use. In December, the district began mandating a 25% reduction in outdoor water use based on each resident’s square footage and whether they have pools and other factors, according to Mike McNutt, a spokesperson for Las Virgenes. Because of their dependence on dwindling imported supplies, “We consider ourselves, Las Virgenes, and I think, arguably, our neighbors Calleguas Municipal Water District, to be ground zero when it comes to the California drought right now,” he said. “We have to do things that are maybe more significant than others in order to save every drop of water to stretch that as long as possible.” Thus far, though, residents have largely failed to cut back — with about half regularly exceeding their water budgets, McNutt said. Water usage in January and February was 6% higher than in 2020, and 37% higher in March. In April, Las Virgenes ordered customers to cut outdoor watering even further, down to 50% of their outdoor budget — sending out mass texts, emails and voicemails to alert residents. Those who use 150% more water than allotted face escalating penalties, starting with a warning and increasing to $10 for every extra unit of water for a fifth violation. After the third offense, the district may install a flow restriction device to cut off irrigation supplies. Still, about 3,000 of the 22,000 Las Virgenes households, McNutt said, have repeatedly exceeded their water budgets by more than 150%. “What we're going to do is take the most egregious of those water wasters, and those are the people that we're going to install the flow-restriction devices on,” he said. “We're not interested in being punitive. What we're interested in is getting people's attention by saying this is serious, and this is real.” The Las Virgenes board will consider enacting the one-day-a-week outdoor watering mandate beginning June 1, McNutt said. “We're not interested in being punitive. What we're interested in is getting people's attention by saying this is serious, and this is real.” mike mcnutt, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District Each water agency must develop watering schedules and have plans to enforce them by June 1. Any penalties Metropolitan collects will go toward helping member agencies tackle the drought, said Brad Coffey, group manager of water resource management. There will be some exceptions to allow residents to hand-water trees and shrubs to keep them alive during the hot summer months, and to “allow drip or other high-efficiency irrigation systems to apply water at a weekly volume consistent with the one-day watering restriction imposed on less efficient irrigation systems.” “Of course, it is not sufficient simply to have these restrictions on paper,” Metropolitan managers wrote in a letter to the board. “Member Agencies must be willing and able to impose meaningful penalties for non-compliance.” A statewide turf replacement rebate program that began during the height of the last drought put more than $20.5 million towards tearing out Californians lawns, but it expired in June 2020. A high efficiency toilet program ended even earlier, in 2016. “The state has not offered any rebates during the current drought period from 2020 to present,” said Allison Armstrong, a public information officer with the California Department of Water Resources. “However, there is funding in the Governor’s proposed budget that supports a turf replacement program, and we may have more information to share later this summer.” The Metropolitan Water District offers rebates “year-round whether we’re in a drought or not to encourage the public to conserve long-term,” said spokesperson Maritza Fairfield. **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022
Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Just finished watching Series 6 of "Shetland" and arrrggh!! Tug at the heart strings and I don't like that Fiscal. I just want to hug Jimmy and aye Duncan as well. I blame the script writers. They seemed intent on breaking the Jimmy Perez character down. And the ONE time Duncan tries to do something good has horrible consequences. Do you have any idea what a Fiscal is? I tried looking up the title and got nowhere. Anyway, I agree with you: that character is the worst kind of butt-covering, rigid bureaucrat imaginable. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Friday, April 29, 2022 1:59 AM
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Friday, April 29, 2022 5:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Do you think there will be a next series? I hope so! I can't imagine any charges sticking on Jimmy, but what a mess to wade thru. And right when his dad needs him so much. There is one thing about dementia tho... explanations don't work and are often counterproductive bc they're upsetting and they'll just be forgotten anyway. At a certain point, agreement and distraction work best. Thanks for looking up "fiscal", it was kind of bugging me. I had to look up a LOT of words, like "wellies" (boots) and others that wound up being British or Scottish words for common things like raincoat or backpack. I'll bet you knew most of them already. That fiscal character was a byatch. And that woman dying of lung cancer... the one who set the whole fiasco up... was a downright sociopath. Grrrrr... ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Friday, April 29, 2022 5:34 PM
Friday, April 29, 2022 5:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Unbelievable! Record snowfall for April 27 in WNY! How's YOUR weather, SIX? Usually they get what you got.
Quote:SIX: I'm sure by now you know 1000x more than I do about emission controls. I wish I could help, but all I can do is wish you the best of luck
Saturday, April 30, 2022 1:29 PM
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Saturday, April 30, 2022 5:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: It's stopped raining now that I am in.
Saturday, April 30, 2022 5:30 PM
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Saturday, April 30, 2022 11:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: It's stopped raining now that I am in. Oh, but of course! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:51 AM
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Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I remember the sun. It has been so long since I have seen it now though, that sometimes I think it's only something that I imagined. A wonderful dream, perhaps? Possibly something I once saw in an old Sci-Fi movie when I was but a small child? Tell me about the sun, Brenda! I implore you! I do not want to forget! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"
Sunday, May 1, 2022 3:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I remember the sun. It has been so long since I have seen it now though, that sometimes I think it's only something that I imagined. A wonderful dream, perhaps? Possibly something I once saw in an old Sci-Fi movie when I was but a small child? Tell me about the sun, Brenda! I implore you! I do not want to forget! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!" It's this big, bright ball of light. High up in the sky. It's yellow in colour and when its rays fall on the earth they are warm.
Sunday, May 1, 2022 3:45 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today. Some suppliers in Los Angeles, Ventura and San Bernardino counties will limit watering of lawns to once a week to ease the burden on the drought-stricken state aqueduct. Unprecedented water restrictions are in store for about 6 million Southern Californians, a sign of deepening drought in counties that depend on water piped from the state’s parched reservoirs. The Metropolitan Water District’s board voted unanimously today to require six major water providers and the dozens of cities and local districts they supply to impose one of two options: limit residents to outdoor watering once a week or reduce total water use below a certain target. The water providers must have plans to police their customers, and if they fail to impose the restrictions, they could face fines of $2,000 for every extra acre-foot of water that exceeds their monthly allocation limits, starting in June, according to Metropolitan. The restrictions target parts of Los Angeles, Ventura and San Bernardino counties that rely heavily on water from drought-stricken Northern California rivers transported south via the State Water Project. “At this time, a third of our region, 6 million Southern Californians in parts of Los Angeles, Ventura, San Bernardino counties, face a very real and immediate water stress challenge,” said Metropolitan Water District General Manager Adel Hagekhalil. “Today these areas rely on extremely limited supplies from Northern California. And there is not enough supply available to meet the normal demands in these areas.” Cutting back outdoor watering to one day a week would be a big change for the arid, densely populated areas, where many people irrigate their lawns and gardens. Southern Californians have heard for decades about the dangers of drought, but per-person residential water use has increased in the past two years, despite the severe drought. Experts say conservation wavers in the region because restrictions are largely voluntary — and their water never seems to run out. “This is insane but not unexpected,” Peter Kraut, a council member from the San Fernando Valley city of Calabasas told the Metropolitan board, which is composed of 38 city and local district officials. “I’m appalled that a change this drastic is happening in such a short period of time.” “This plan will result not just in brown grass but in killing countless trees. The damage to our environment will take decades to repair,” Kraut added. Today’s mandate is the first outdoor watering restriction imposed by the giant water-import agency, which supplies 19 million people in California. More stringent restrictions may come later, Metropolitan officials warned: The water providers must also prepare to ban all outdoor watering as early as September, if necessary, as California suffers one of its driest periods on record. The six affected water suppliers are Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District and Three Valleys Municipal Water District — all in Los Angeles County — and the Calleguas Municipal Water District in Ventura County and the Inland Empire Utilities Agency in San Bernardino County. About 13 million other Southern Californians are unaffected by the order because they aren’t as dependent on water imported via the State Water Project. They receive imports from the Colorado River, which largely are sent to Orange, San Diego and Imperial counties. Metropolitan has been working to increase the number of customers who can receive Colorado River water to reduce reliance on the hard-pressed state aqueduct. The Colorado River, however, also is facing extreme drought, and deliveries to California, Nevada and Arizona are being cut back under an agreement signed by the states in December. How much each agency must curtail customers’ water use under Metropolitan’s order depends on how much each relies on the state aqueduct compared to other sources, such as groundwater or recycled sewage. Water agencies are still figuring out the details. Some local water providers urged the board at today’s meeting to let them continue watering sports fields and parks more frequently so the turf doesn’t dry out. Two of the six depend almost entirely on state aqueduct supplies — the Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, which serves 75,000 residents west of Los Angeles, and the Calleguas Municipal Water District, which supplies 19 agencies and cities in southeast Ventura County. Some communities served by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, Inland Empire Utilities Agency and the Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District have other sources that may buffer the blow of the new mandate. Los Angeles DWP spokesperson Ellen Cheng did not respond to multiple inquiries about which parts of the city will be affected. Some of the affected agencies, such as Las Virgenes in Calabasas and nearby western Los Angeles County cities, already have cracked down on residents by imposing new escalating rates and penalties, with mixed success. Others, including Los Angeles DWP, which has limited outdoor watering to three days a week since 2009, have not added any new restrictions during the current drought. “I’m not happy that we have to do this. It is challenging. But it is a necessity.” tom love, upper san gabriel valley municipal water district The Upper San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District, which serves a million people in 19 cities from South Pasadena to Azusa, will meet with its local retailers soon to determine what restrictions to put in place to meet the new order. “We are likely to recommend to our local retailers to implement mandatory water use restrictions that may not be as low as one day a week. But whatever we think is necessary to reduce consumption so that those local supplies aren’t depleted,” said General Manager Tom Love. “I’m not happy that we have to do this. It is challenging. But it is a necessity,” Love said. “And whatever Met does in this regard just provides us the backup to do what we need to do within our service area.” “I have never seen it this severe in my whole career,” he added. Though his administration ordered water suppliers to step up their drought responses, Gov. Gavin Newsom has largely left it to local water agencies to coax or mandate cuts in water use during some of the state’s driest years on record. About half of water flowing through Southern Californians’ taps comes from elsewhere, piped from Northern California rivers, the Colorado River or the Owens Valley. Though the Metropolitan Water District entered 2021 with record amounts in storage, the last three years have seen the lowest total deliveries from Northern California reservoirs. Metropolitan’s decision to tighten water restrictions comes on the heels of the driest January, February and March on record. State officials in March reduced deliveries from the state aqueduct to just 5% of requested supplies. ‘Everything’s still being watered’ Since the last drought, Southern Californians have conserved: using nearly 16% less water per person per day in 2021 than in 2014. But residential use has increased per capita this year. “Everything’s still being watered. And what’s interesting is that there’s no idea of a shortage happening,” said Kareem Gongora, a San Bernardino County planning commissioner. “You come to the (Inland Empire), you don’t feel like there’s a drought. Everything is pretty much practically green still, manicured lawns.” Gongora, who lives in Fontana, recently moved to a new house. He said he intentionally chose one with a much smaller yard and lawn because of the risk of drought and the price of water. When it rains, he said, he turns his sprinklers off. When it doesn’t, he runs them twice a week. “We're new to our neighborhood,” he said. “I don't want to make a bad impression on my neighbors” by letting a yard dry out and die. Gongora said he remembered more restrictions and penalties during the last drought, and called Metropolitan’s new restrictions a step in the right direction. “I don't see anything happening at the pace that it should have,” he said. In Los Angeles County’s Agoura Hills, Mayor Deborah Klein Lopez’s sprinklers don’t work. She turned them off about two years ago, and let her lawn go brown. She said she has no intention of turning them back on. “I had new next door neighbors move in and I was like, ‘I know my lawn is I ugly. I promise — I have two kids in college. It's on my list,’” she said. “But, a brown lawn is a little bit of a badge of honor right now, just because it shows that you're really keen to the severity of the situation.” “You come to the (Inland Empire), you don’t feel like there’s a drought. Everything is pretty much practically green still, manicured lawns.” Kareem Gongora, San Bernardino County planning commissioner Looking around the neighborhood, she said, another neighbor has a plastic lawn, and some have drought tolerant gardens. But about a third water lush landscapes, even though their local water supplier, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District, has been trying to convince residents to cut back. Each resident in the Las Virgenes water district’s affluent service area has water budgets for their indoor and outdoor use. In December, the district began mandating a 25% reduction in outdoor water use based on each resident’s square footage and whether they have pools and other factors, according to Mike McNutt, a spokesperson for Las Virgenes. Because of their dependence on dwindling imported supplies, “We consider ourselves, Las Virgenes, and I think, arguably, our neighbors Calleguas Municipal Water District, to be ground zero when it comes to the California drought right now,” he said. “We have to do things that are maybe more significant than others in order to save every drop of water to stretch that as long as possible.” Thus far, though, residents have largely failed to cut back — with about half regularly exceeding their water budgets, McNutt said. Water usage in January and February was 6% higher than in 2020, and 37% higher in March. In April, Las Virgenes ordered customers to cut outdoor watering even further, down to 50% of their outdoor budget — sending out mass texts, emails and voicemails to alert residents. Those who use 150% more water than allotted face escalating penalties, starting with a warning and increasing to $10 for every extra unit of water for a fifth violation. After the third offense, the district may install a flow restriction device to cut off irrigation supplies. Still, about 3,000 of the 22,000 Las Virgenes households, McNutt said, have repeatedly exceeded their water budgets by more than 150%. “What we're going to do is take the most egregious of those water wasters, and those are the people that we're going to install the flow-restriction devices on,” he said. “We're not interested in being punitive. What we're interested in is getting people's attention by saying this is serious, and this is real.” The Las Virgenes board will consider enacting the one-day-a-week outdoor watering mandate beginning June 1, McNutt said. “We're not interested in being punitive. What we're interested in is getting people's attention by saying this is serious, and this is real.” mike mcnutt, Las Virgenes Municipal Water District Each water agency must develop watering schedules and have plans to enforce them by June 1. Any penalties Metropolitan collects will go toward helping member agencies tackle the drought, said Brad Coffey, group manager of water resource management. There will be some exceptions to allow residents to hand-water trees and shrubs to keep them alive during the hot summer months, and to “allow drip or other high-efficiency irrigation systems to apply water at a weekly volume consistent with the one-day watering restriction imposed on less efficient irrigation systems.” “Of course, it is not sufficient simply to have these restrictions on paper,” Metropolitan managers wrote in a letter to the board. “Member Agencies must be willing and able to impose meaningful penalties for non-compliance.” A statewide turf replacement rebate program that began during the height of the last drought put more than $20.5 million towards tearing out Californians lawns, but it expired in June 2020. A high efficiency toilet program ended even earlier, in 2016. “The state has not offered any rebates during the current drought period from 2020 to present,” said Allison Armstrong, a public information officer with the California Department of Water Resources. “However, there is funding in the Governor’s proposed budget that supports a turf replacement program, and we may have more information to share later this summer.” The Metropolitan Water District offers rebates “year-round whether we’re in a drought or not to encourage the public to conserve long-term,” said spokesperson Maritza Fairfield. **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022 https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/southern-california-conserve-water/
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Quote: SignyM: Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today... **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022 https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/southern-california-conserve-water/ JSF: Funny how you claim no politics in garden, then post this crap. At least CA is successfully able to divert their supply of freshwater directly to the Ocean, which is extremely important to Libtards.
Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today... **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022
Sunday, May 1, 2022 4:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote: SignyM: Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today... **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022 https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/southern-california-conserve-water/ JSF: Funny how you claim no politics in garden, then post this crap. At least CA is successfully able to divert their supply of freshwater directly to the Ocean, which is extremely important to Libtards.
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Quote: SignyM: Quote: The giant Metropolitan Water District imposed first-ever restrictions today... **** Sierra snowpack worsens, falls to lowest level in 7 years The April snowpack, key to how much water flows into reservoirs, is 38% of average statewide, proving that drought hasn’t relaxed its grip on California. by Rachel Becker April 1, 2022 Newsom imposes new California water restrictions — leaves details to locals Still resisting statewide water rationing for parched California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is asking local suppliers to tighten water limits. by Rachel Becker March 28, 2022 https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/southern-california-conserve-water/ JSF: Funny how you claim no politics in garden, then post this crap. At least CA is successfully able to divert their supply of freshwater directly to the Ocean, which is extremely important to Libtards. SIGNY: Funny how you manage to be such an ass. This isn't about politics, this is about RAIN!!! ... which, you might have noticed, is what the thread is about. Only YOU could turn an article about weather and drought into a political issue! If you lived in an agricultural state and there was a shortage of fertilizer that affected you, personally, would you consider that to be a "political" issue? You really should do something about your hyper aggression, JSF. There must be something missing from your diet to affect you so badly. JSF: Why do you insist on being an ass? You post an article about how California has politically mismanaged it's water resources, for decades,
Quote: (including flushing it's freshwater supply directly into the Ocean -
Quote: which is scientifically known to be saltwater) and proclaim that it is NOT about California's political mismanagement of water resources. You claim that CA is the only state which needs rain. Not Nevada, Arizona, or Mexico, or any of the other 47 States in USA.
Quote: I live in Wisconsin. It is an agricultural state, as are many states, far more than CA is.
Quote: Wine grapes don't feed livestock.
Quote: WI is nicknamed America's Dairyland. Rolling hills full of corn, although not as much as flat Iowa. America's #1 producer of hemp for the War Effort of WWII. Just because you think that cultivating ghettos, Watts, Libtard Universities, Fagrot, and some movies equates to being agricultural does not make it so. The water those endeavors stole was actually going to the ag valleys, before you diverted it.
Quote:Stop being such an ass, and pull your head out of your ass. Your mismanagement of your own water resources is due to your horrid governance, due to your perennial Fraudulent Stolen Elections. Stick to your fauna and Flora, not how you politically mistreat them and starve them.
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I remember the sun. It has been so long since I have seen it now though, that sometimes I think it's only something that I imagined. A wonderful dream, perhaps? Possibly something I once saw in an old Sci-Fi movie when I was but a small child? Tell me about the sun, Brenda! I implore you! I do not want to forget! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!" It's this big, bright ball of light. High up in the sky. It's yellow in colour and when its rays fall on the earth they are warm. Yes! That's it. That's exactly as I remembered it! Oh somebody please take me there, so I can see it once more with my own eyes! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"
Sunday, May 1, 2022 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I remember the sun. It has been so long since I have seen it now though, that sometimes I think it's only something that I imagined. A wonderful dream, perhaps? Possibly something I once saw in an old Sci-Fi movie when I was but a small child? Tell me about the sun, Brenda! I implore you! I do not want to forget! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!" It's this big, bright ball of light. High up in the sky. It's yellow in colour and when its rays fall on the earth they are warm. Yes! That's it. That's exactly as I remembered it! Oh somebody please take me there, so I can see it once more with my own eyes! -------------------------------------------------- Me: "Remember Covid?" Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!" I am sure that it will make an appearance in your area soon. Or if you have plane fare.
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